tomburton99
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Location: NYR distrust, NJ Joined: 07.13.2009
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Giroux is a fine player but he is a +19 for his career. Kunitz is a +148 to compare. You need responsible 5 on 5 play from your "depth" players. CG racks up a lot on the PP but I don't see him getting much time there with the roster in place. - mjk3122
Kunitz also plays on a team that is head and shoulders better. |
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AceRatbang
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Location: Chicago, IL Joined: 07.20.2012
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Sharp could have taken the Con Smythe in 2010 and was great again in 2013. He is clutch.
Can play center and wing, he's durable, he's fast and he's smart.
He's not even on the bubble. He's in. |
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Albanian
New York Islanders |
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Location: Brooklyn, NY Joined: 02.07.2007
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WTF!!! No Richard Park on this list..
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twotoekenn
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: perkasie, PA Joined: 12.16.2009
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Kunitz also plays on a team that is head and shoulders better. - tomburton99
And how often does he play against the oppositions top line? |
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Brianandr1
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: NYC, NY Joined: 12.28.2013
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And how often does he play against the oppositions top line? - twotoekenn
Bylsma does not match lines very often so every night! No disrespect to giroux , both players belong on the team |
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Scooby_Doo
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Somewhere close to Vancouver., BC Joined: 06.10.2009
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Sharp could have taken the Con Smythe in 2010 and was great again in 2013. He is clutch.
Can play center and wing, he's durable, he's fast and he's smart.
He's not even on the bubble. He's in. - AceRatbang
Every centre on the team can play wing.
Sharp would be a bad pick, and would ride the pine the whole tournament if selected. |
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mjk3122
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: NJ Joined: 12.29.2013
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And how often does he play against the oppositions top line? - twotoekenn
Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't Couturier match up against the other teams top line players? |
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Every centre on the team can play wing.
Sharp would be a bad pick, and would ride the pine the whole tournament if selected. - Scooby_Doo
Disagree 100%. Sharp, with his speed, versatility and great two way play should be a virtual lock. |
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Flyers1218
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: New York, NY Joined: 06.28.2007
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Giroux is a fine player but he is a +19 for his career. Kunitz is a +148 to compare. You need responsible 5 on 5 play from your "depth" players. CG racks up a lot on the PP but I don't see him getting much time there with the roster in place. - mjk3122
Claude Giroux is 30 times the player Chris Kunitz is. Giroux plays powerplay, penalty kill, and for the most part is a strong defensive player. He was a ppg player without Jagr last year (common joke amongst Pens fans) and has 37 points in 40 games after the Flyers started the season as the statistically worst goal scoring team in history. He has put the team on his back. He is also one of the best faceoff guys in the league and while he'd play wing it's good to have two guys that can take key defensive draws. Chris Kunitz is a want to be tough guy, like James Neal, whose prone to ill timed penalties. He's been a 20 goal scorer, but he's never a dominant, take over a game player like Giroux is (especially against Pittsburgh in the playoffs two years ago). Lastly, as Ek pointed out Giroux is one of the best clutch players in the NHL and scores big goals in the playoffs. Stop with the Chris Kunitz poop. He's a product of Crosby and even then, he's not worthy of being on an Olympic roster. I would score 20 playing with Sid. Think what Stamkos would score on 87's wing. |
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Claude Giroux is 30 times the player Chris Kunitz is. Giroux plays powerplay, penalty kill, and for the most part is a strong defensive player. He was a ppg player without Jagr last year (common joke amongst Pens fans) and has 37 points in 40 games after the Flyers started the season as the statistically worst goal scoring team in history. He has put the team on his back. He is also one of the best faceoff guys in the league and while he'd play wing it's good to have two guys that can take key defensive draws. Chris Kunitz is a want to be tough guy, like James Neal, whose prone to ill timed penalties. He's been a 20 goal scorer, but he's never a dominant, take over a game player like Giroux is (especially against Pittsburgh in the playoffs two years ago). Lastly, as Ek pointed out Giroux is one of the best clutch players in the NHL and scores big goals in the playoffs. Stop with the Chris Kunitz poop. He's a product of Crosby and even then, he's not worthy of being on an Olympic roster. I would score 20 playing with Sid. Think what Stamkos would score on 87's wing. - Flyers1218
Once someone argues to take Kunitz over Giroux that's your cue to start ignoring them. |
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Flyers1218
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: New York, NY Joined: 06.28.2007
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Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't Couturier match up against the other teams top line players? - mjk3122
That is correct, but in years past they have used Giroux. Now they use him, obviously, as the scoring line, but he takes a ton of key defensive zone draws. |
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opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: The Implication Joined: 12.13.2011
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Giroux is a fine player but he is a +19 for his career. Kunitz is a +148 to compare. You need responsible 5 on 5 play from your "depth" players. CG racks up a lot on the PP but I don't see him getting much time there with the roster in place. - mjk3122
Kunitz has played 250 games more than Giroux.
Taking nothing away from Kunitz but he is playing with the best player in the known world in Crosby and also has another generational talent in Malkin on that team.
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Flyers1218
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: New York, NY Joined: 06.28.2007
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Once someone argues to take Kunitz over Giroux that's your cue to start ignoring them. - FinAddict
I'm not saying Kunitz is bad either. I think he's a good player. I just wouldn't put him on an Olympic team with so many other players to choose from. Yeah he plays awesome with Sid. So do a lot of players and so will who ever they put on this line in Sochi. Kunitz is not elite. An elite player getting the opportunities Kunitz does on a nightly basis is scary. |
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I'm not saying Kunitz is bad either. I think he's a good player. I just wouldn't put him on an Olympic team with so many other players to choose from. Yeah he plays awesome with Sid. So do a lot of players and so will who ever they put on this line in Sochi. Kunitz is not elite. An elite player getting the opportunities Kunitz does on a nightly basis is scary. - Flyers1218
Kunitz is good. There's no room for good on Canada. |
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Brianandr1
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: NYC, NY Joined: 12.28.2013
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Claude Giroux is 30 times the player Chris Kunitz is. Giroux plays powerplay, penalty kill, and for the most part is a strong defensive player. He was a ppg player without Jagr last year (common joke amongst Pens fans) and has 37 points in 40 games after the Flyers started the season as the statistically worst goal scoring team in history. He has put the team on his back. He is also one of the best faceoff guys in the league and while he'd play wing it's good to have two guys that can take key defensive draws. Chris Kunitz is a want to be tough guy, like James Neal, whose prone to ill timed penalties. He's been a 20 goal scorer, but he's never a dominant, take over a game player like Giroux is (especially against Pittsburgh in the playoffs two years ago). Lastly, as Ek pointed out Giroux is one of the best clutch players in the NHL and scores big goals in the playoffs. Stop with the Chris Kunitz poop. He's a product of Crosby and even then, he's not worthy of being on an Olympic roster. I would score 20 playing with Sid. Think what Stamkos would score on 87's wing. - Flyers1218
No question giroux is a better player, at the same time stop with the product of Crosby poop , the guy puts up 20 + every season , on the ducks and two whole seasons with no Crosby , is he a hall of fame superstar no!!! Should he be on team canada bc of his production and esp bc of his chemistry with Sid yes! |
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Flyers1218
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: New York, NY Joined: 06.28.2007
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No question giroux is a better player, at the same time stop with the product of Crosby poop , the guy puts up 20 + every season , on the ducks and two whole seasons with no Crosby , is he a hall of fame superstar no!!! Should he be on team canada bc of his production and esp bc of his chemistry with Sid yes! - Brianandr1
Stop with the product of Crosby poop? Why, call a spade a spade. He's never played to this level. Big deal, 20 goals, there are a lot of 20 goal scorers consistently in the NHL, Scott Hartnell for one. Doesn't mean he should be on the Olympic team while a guy like Hall or something is left off for him. |
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Brianandr1
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: NYC, NY Joined: 12.28.2013
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Stop with the product of Crosby poop? Why, call a spade a spade. He's never played to this level. Big deal, 20 goals, there are a lot of 20 goal scorers consistently in the NHL, Scott Hartnell for one. Doesn't mean he should be on the Olympic team while a guy like Hall or something is left off for him. - Flyers1218
Even if that's true, which it's not!!! Based on his chemistry with Crosby he should be there , are there 10 guys better , yes for sure, will any of them have the chemistry with Crosby????? Again I don't know and neither do u, Crosby Kunitz is a slam dunk |
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blizzzard
New Jersey Devils |
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Location: Orillia, ON Joined: 07.02.2011
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No question giroux is a better player, at the same time stop with the product of Crosby poop , the guy puts up 20 + every season , on the ducks and two whole seasons with no Crosby , is he a hall of fame superstar no!!! Should he be on team canada bc of his production and esp bc of his chemistry with Sid yes! - Brianandr1
Not a chance... At all. I don't want Kunitz on the top line at all regardless of his chemistry 20 goals ? like that makes him good enough to be on Canada when you are taking about 90 pt 30-60 goal guys. |
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Scooby_Doo
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Somewhere close to Vancouver., BC Joined: 06.10.2009
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Disagree 100%. Sharp, with his speed, versatility and great two way play should be a virtual lock. - Canuckleafer
A lock? Come on, that's ridiculous.
There are 9 players that are versatile, fast, two way players etc... I'd take before him. |
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Brianandr1
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: NYC, NY Joined: 12.28.2013
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Stop with the product of Crosby poop? Why, call a spade a spade. He's never played to this level. Big deal, 20 goals, there are a lot of 20 goal scorers consistently in the NHL, Scott Hartnell for one. Doesn't mean he should be on the Olympic team while a guy like Hall or something is left off for him. - Flyers1218
If it were 2011 hartnell might be there , he was certainly better then Kunitz up to then, since then Kunitz has been flat out better with Crosby or without |
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mjk3122
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: NJ Joined: 12.29.2013
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Once someone argues to take Kunitz over Giroux that's your cue to start ignoring them. - FinAddict
I am not saying Kunitz is better than Giroux. That would be stupid. I was simply showing what I think are defensive weaknesses on CG's part. When filling out your team, I think it needs to be more like an elite NHL team, not an all star squad.
Thats why the US played so well against them 4 years ago. The USA has players that have specific roles on the team and understand those roles.
How many forwards are going to lay on the ice and block a shot from Canada? Getzlaf and Perry? Maybe?
Canada should win gold every time but they don't. I just believe that you dont take the 12 highest scoring forwards to the tourney. |
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blizzzard
New Jersey Devils |
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Location: Orillia, ON Joined: 07.02.2011
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Even if that's true, which it's not!!! Based on his chemistry with Crosby he should be there , are there 10 guys better , yes for sure, will any of them have the chemistry with Crosby????? Again I don't know and neither do u, Crosby Kunitz is a slam dunk - Brianandr1
Has he played with Crosby on the Large ice ? How do you know he will have chemistry with him at the Olympics what if he slumps right after the team is picked he is a waste of spot period there are to many things that could go wrong with taking him over the good it could bring. This isn't a world cup this is the freaking Olympics. We have way to much skill to worry about if someone will have chemistry with Crosby don't be silly by acting like it's so important when you can't even know if he would have chemistry in an event like this it isn't the NHL it''s a different game. |
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blizzzard
New Jersey Devils |
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Location: Orillia, ON Joined: 07.02.2011
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I am not saying Kunitz is better than Giroux. That would be stupid. I was simply showing what I think are defensive weaknesses on CG's part. When filling out your team, I think it needs to be more like an elite NHL team, not an all star squad.
Thats why the US played so well against them 4 years ago. The USA has players that have specific roles on the team and understand those roles.
How many forwards are going to lay on the ice and block a shot from Canada? Getzlaf and Perry? Maybe?
Canada should win gold every time but they don't. I just believe that you dont take the 12 highest scoring forwards to the tourney. - mjk3122
How much easier will it be for a skilled guy to do damage with all then extra ice ? A lot easier then it will be for these "shut down " "grinding type" players to do there jobs. |
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Flyers1218
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: New York, NY Joined: 06.28.2007
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Even if that's true, which it's not!!! Based on his chemistry with Crosby he should be there , are there 10 guys better , yes for sure, will any of them have the chemistry with Crosby????? Again I don't know and neither do u, Crosby Kunitz is a slam dunk - Brianandr1
Ok, whatever you say. You mention that Kunitz is not a product of Crosby over and over, but then use that as the basis of him being on the team. Which one is it? Seems to me it takes away from the team's versatility. Kunitz is one the team strictly to play with Crosby, useless everywhere else. What happens if Sid gets hurt? Two wasted roster spots then? |
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Brianandr1
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: NYC, NY Joined: 12.28.2013
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Not a chance... At all. I don't want Kunitz on the top line at all regardless of his chemistry 20 goals ? like that makes him good enough to be on Canada when you are taking about 90 pt 30-60 goal guys. - blizzzard
Yes it does, you can't gaurantee any of those 30 90 guys can play with Crosby , how many guys will Babcock have to rotate in to find the right fit and how many games will canada potentially lose while figuring it out , this is not an all star game it's a two week tournament against some damn good teams |
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