Brianandr1
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Location: NYC, NY Joined: 12.28.2013
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Jay-Bo will be on the team - DDM-Coga
I agree pieteranglo / j Bo as the third pair , doughty weber as the 1st , Keith and ? As the second. . Subban is very good but the wider ice makes me nervous, letang is great when healthy but a turnover machine . . Seabrook might be the best choice |
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Like Kunitz. Like chemistry but when you have the talent pool that Canada has he doesn't make the team. Kunitz is great with Crosby. Imagine how great Benn, Hall, Giroux, etc., would be. - therealagent
This....
If Stamkos is back, I'd love to see St.Louis Crosby Stamkos
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DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche |
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Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB Joined: 07.24.2009
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I agree pieteranglo / j Bo as the third pair , doughty weber as the 1st , Keith and ? As the second. . Subban is very good but the wider ice makes me nervous, letang is great when healthy but a turnover machine . . Seabrook might be the best choice - Brianandr1
Seabrook is a bubble guy to me, I think you can keep him with Keith or introduce someone else and it wont matter. Hes number 7 right now in my mind. |
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canadianpenfan
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Calgary Joined: 05.13.2010
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Like Kunitz. Like chemistry but when you have the talent pool that Canada has he doesn't make the team. Kunitz is great with Crosby. Imagine how great Benn, Hall, Giroux, etc., would be. - therealagent
I'm ok if they take him, but I'm not going to sit here and say Hall or Stamkos or ???? wouldn't produce on Crosby's wing. I like Kunitz more just because he hits everything in sight while playing a complete game and this team doesn't have much of that compared to the US. The biggest danger in assembling this team is too much skill, not enough sandpaper imo.
I do believe in chemistry too though, and if it takes 2 or 3 games for Crosby or anyone else to gel with new linemates they might be out by the time they figure it out. Everyone remembers Crosby scoring to win gold, everyone seems to forget how vanilla his line looked with Nash and Iginla in most of the other games.
They are tough decisions and regardless which way they go people will be upset. All I know is on paper this team is going to be sick regardless who takes the 2 or 3 spots up for grabs. |
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DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche |
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Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB Joined: 07.24.2009
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I'm ok if they take him, but I'm not going to sit here and say Hall or Stamkos or ???? wouldn't produce on Crosby's wing. I like Kunitz more just because he hits everything in sight while playing a complete game and this team doesn't have much of that compared to the US. The biggest danger in assembling this team is too much skill, not enough sandpaper imo.
I do believe in chemistry too though, and if it takes 2 or 3 games for Crosby or anyone else to gel with new linemates they might be out by the time they figure it out. Everyone remembers Crosby scoring to win gold, everyone seems to forget how vanilla his line looked with Nash and Iginla in most of the other games.
They are tough decisions and regardless which way they go people will be upset. All I know is on paper this team is going to be sick regardless who takes the 2 or 3 spots up for grabs. - canadianpenfan
You can add a lot of guys in that position who have any sort of offensive ability and will produce points with Sid. You could put a guy like Ryan O'Reilly on his wing and he would produce while having his strong 2way and PK game in tact. (not saying O'Reilly should be on the team, just using him as an example)
Personally I would love to see Duchene on his Wing, they train on and off the ice together during the offseasons, I am sure they have some chemistry from their on ice training together. |
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Brianandr1
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: NYC, NY Joined: 12.28.2013
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Seabrook is a bubble guy to me, I think you can keep him with Keith or introduce someone else and it wont matter. Hes number 7 right now in my mind. - DDM-Coga
Agreed , I think he s worth keeping on the roster. , whether he dresses or not is a diff question. I also think that it depends on what your looking for , offensively letang is absolutely dynamic but not a great pp qb , Martin runs that pp more when healthy |
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Seabrook is a bubble guy to me, I think you can keep him with Keith or introduce someone else and it wont matter. Hes number 7 right now in my mind. - DDM-Coga
Agreed,
I still see it as,
Keith Weber
Boumeester Pietrangelo
Vlassic Doughty
Subban/Seabrook
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vancity787
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: My Parents Basement, BC Joined: 07.14.2008
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They'd be foolish to leave St. Loius off the team. He's a great leader and for a thirty eight year old. The guy is damn good. Plus he's one of the best puck distributors in the league. |
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canadianpenfan
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Calgary Joined: 05.13.2010
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You can add a lot of guys in that position who have any sort of offensive ability and will produce points with Sid. You could put a guy like Ryan O'Reilly on his wing and he would produce while having his strong 2way and PK game in tact. (not saying O'Reilly should be on the team, just using him as an example)
Personally I would love to see Duchene on his Wing, they train on and off the ice together during the offseasons, I am sure they have some chemistry from their on ice training together. - DDM-Coga
For sure you can, but on the other side of the coin only 1 scenario is proven. (Kunitz) Like I said I will be happy with or without him because if he doesn't go a really good player will. I'm hoping Hall makes it myself, I think he would be a monster with all star linemates on the big ice.
I would love to see Duchene there too, since day 1 my first line was Duchene-Crosby-Stamkos. |
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HB77
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid Joined: 02.20.2007
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stammer, Crosby, st.louis
nash, getzlaf, perry
tavares, toews, Duchene
couture, Bergeron, Giroux
sharp/hall
doughty-keith
weber-subban
pietr-jaybo
seabrook/vlasic
price
luongo
smith?
book it.
that bottom 6 is siiiccckk |
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B-Mac
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: ON Joined: 02.02.2010
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stammer, Crosby, st.louis
nash, getzlaf, perry
tavares, toews, Duchene
couture, Bergeron, Giroux
sharp/hall
doughty-keith
weber-subban
pietr-jaybo
seabrook/vlasic
price
luongo
smith?
book it.
that bottom 6 is siiiccckk - hugefemale dog77
Benn over Nash all day based on this years performances |
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vancity787
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: My Parents Basement, BC Joined: 07.14.2008
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Benn over Nash all day - B-Mac
This |
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B-Mac
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: ON Joined: 02.02.2010
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Nash has been an awesome performer for Canada whenever he plays for our country....a bubble guy like Hall who probably deserves to be on the team might get the bump because of seniority and past experience of Nash, I don't like it, but I think its a real possibility |
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Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Vancouver, BC Joined: 09.26.2010
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Forwards
Nash - Crosby - Stamkos
Tavares- Toews - Giroux
Duchene - Getzlaf - Perry
Couture - Bergeron - Sharp(checking line)
Thornton, Benn/Seguin
Defensemen
Keith - Weber
Subban - Doughty
Vlasic - Pietrangelo
Hamhuis/J-Bo - Seabrook
Goalies
Price
Luongo
Who Cares
- I doubt the 3rd goalie even plays, I laugh at the people who spend time debating who should go
- I wanted 3 lefites(Keith, Vlasic, Hamhuis) out of the 8 d-men
- Vlasic deserves to go anyways, so damn underrated
- Would prefer Hamhuis over J-Bo, Hamhuis plays tougher minutes with similar possession numbers
- Seguin is awesome, but from what I've been reading and have seen, he's much more effective as a center and he's not a top 5 Canadian center, might prefer Benn as the 15th forward for that reason
- Not sure why many don't have one of Thornton or Marleau on their teams, unless you're in the"they don't have what it takes to win" camp. They've been two of the best forwards(along with Couture) on one of the best teams in the league this season, at least one of them should make the top 14.
- Could make a case for any of St.Louis, Benn, Marleau, Lucic, Kunitz, Neal, Staal etc.... |
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Oilers42
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: MB Joined: 06.14.2013
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We're talking about killing penalties not even strength turnovers!!
Maybe let Taylor hall kill penalties ,'let's see how that works out - Brianandr1
Hall does kill penalties buddy |
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B-Mac
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: ON Joined: 02.02.2010
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- Not sure why many don't have one of Thornton or Marleau on their teams, unless you're in the"they don't have what it takes to win" camp. - Nucker101
2 words
"Bigger Ice" |
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Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Vancouver, BC Joined: 09.26.2010
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2 words
"Bigger Ice" - B-Mac
Marleau can skate just fine, Joe's never really relied on speed, and I agree that bigger ice hurts him defensively so that's why he's outside of my top 12. Fair point though. |
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HB77
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid Joined: 02.20.2007
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Nash has been an awesome performer for Canada whenever he plays for our country....a bubble guy like Hall who probably deserves to be on the team might get the bump because of seniority and past experience of Nash, I don't like it, but I think its a real possibility - B-Mac
this. ill tend to agree.
but if it applies to hall, then it has to apply to benn as well....
hall has more points than both of em |
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Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Vancouver, BC Joined: 09.26.2010
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Hall does kill penalties buddy - Oilers42
Doubt he would even sniff the ice on the PK against the US/Russia/Sweden. I'm not taking him over the other left-handed forwards available(Nash/Duchene/Tavares/Benn/Couture).
He should be a lock in 2018 though. |
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HB77
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid Joined: 02.20.2007
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2 words
"Bigger Ice" - B-Mac
marleau is a phenomenal skater. incredibly fast.
wtf? |
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Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Vancouver, BC Joined: 09.26.2010
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this. ill tend to agree.
but if it applies to hall, then it has to apply to benn as well....
hall has more points than both of em - hugefemale dog77
Hall is also less than 40% puck possession player despite starting over 57% of his shifts in the offensive zone. Doesn't deserve it this year IMO. Has to say something about his lines defensive play that those numbers exist despite his numbers. He's not gonna crack my top 3 scoring lines or the 4th line checking line. I know that he's playing on a horrible team, but I feel safer taking a guy like Duchene who has better possession numbers on a better team, used to playing in a more structured system with similar offensive ability. Tavares also lead his Isles to the playoffs last year. Nash should be a lock IMO, just a great all-around player. |
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HB77
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid Joined: 02.20.2007
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Doubt he would even sniff the ice on the PK against the US/Russia/Sweden. I'm not taking him over the other left-handed forwards available(Nash/Duchene/Tavares/Benn/Couture).
He should be a lock in 2018 though. - Nucker101
he wouldn't be playing pk.
he's most likely a top 6 or nothing.
but outside of him being an oiler, why wouldn't you take him over any of them?
if u say defensively, I suppose that makes some sense, but he'd prob be top 6 anyway. and lets not exaggerate Tavares' or Duchene's 2 way ability. it's decent. but not spectacular.
and he's probably the fastest open ice skater in that group outside Duchene.
and has a better ppg than all of them.
I think there's like less than 5 guys that have outstripped him offensively in the last 2 seasons combined |
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ABFan918
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Location: Edmonton, AB Joined: 09.26.2013
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Taylor Hall has as many or more points than 6 of the 9 players on that list and has been explosive lately (despite how terrible his team is) and he somehow doesn't even get a mention?
I know the oilers suck but come on... - NEEDSMORHORCOFF
I have to agree. If Hall was playing with Crosby this year he would have twice the points Cunitz has. Cunitz is riding coat tails. Crosby gets injured tomorrow and he is lucky to have another 10 points unless he gets paired up with Malkin and rides his coat tails. No matter how you slice this, Cunitz is not line one and Crosby is, so Yzerman and staff needs to pick a guy that can generate plays on his own. All the other players mentioned are proven to do this.
Hall is better than most. Giroux has had an incredibly inconsistent year. I like him but that has to make you wonder what player you are getting. Bergeron should make the team for his FO and PK ability alone. Thornton is lazy in the playoffs and has looked week in every team Canada appearance to date.
With a team whose locks are almost entirely centers, Hall has played a consistent strong offensive game with incredibly speed and offensive ability as a dedicated LW. He has played center and can take the draw if the center is kicked out but he is a LW and knows how to play that role. He has amazing vision passing and has always been a strong goal scorer. He is a game changer in terms of momentum on the ice, not a coaster like Thornton. He has played on one of the worst teams in the league his entire career and still he can create plays out of no where by himself.
I am not saying that he should be on the team but he should be on the bubble if you are putting Couture, Richards, St. Louis, Benn, Cunitz, Sharp and Thornton there. |
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haymac
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: NWT Joined: 09.17.2011
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I think we need a combination of chemistry on the forward lines plus the fastest skaters we can find. That larger ice surface is a huge factor to consider. Blend this with some youth to go with experience and I'm happy.
I do know that Hall & Duchene are 2 of the fastest skaters in the league, but they're young, so both need to be placed on lines with more experienced players.
I also want to see St. Louis given the chance---he's bursting at the seams to go and his performance without Stamkos has drowned out any concerns about his age.
Whoever goes, I'll be watching it all, very anxiously. I went to Vancouver and attended the Canadian quarter & semi-final games---watched the final in Moxie's across from the Canadian Place pavilion---what a crazy, wonderful time that was.
Go Canada go! |
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Forwards
Nash - Crosby - Stamkos
Tavares- Toews - Giroux
Duchene - Getzlaf - Perry
Couture - Bergeron - Sharp(checking line)
Thornton, Benn/Seguin
Defensemen
Keith - Weber
Subban - Doughty
Vlasic - Pietrangelo
Hamhuis/J-Bo - Seabrook
Goalies
Price
Luongo
Who Cares
- I doubt the 3rd goalie even plays, I laugh at the people who spend time debating who should go
- I wanted 3 lefites(Keith, Vlasic, Hamhuis) out of the 8 d-men
- Vlasic deserves to go anyways, so damn underrated
- Would prefer Hamhuis over J-Bo, Hamhuis plays tougher minutes with similar possession numbers
- Seguin is awesome, but from what I've been reading and have seen, he's much more effective as a center and he's not a top 5 Canadian center, might prefer Benn as the 15th forward for that reason
- Not sure why many don't have one of Thornton or Marleau on their teams, unless you're in the"they don't have what it takes to win" camp. They've been two of the best forwards(along with Couture) on one of the best teams in the league this season, at least one of them should make the top 14.
- Could make a case for any of St.Louis, Benn, Marleau, Lucic, Kunitz, Neal, Staal etc.... - Nucker101
Hamhuis and Weber reunited? He doesn't get much love outside of Vancouver but he's been playing extremely well lately. I wouldn't start him but he has to be given some serious consideration. Completely agree about Vlassic.
With so many others playing well, I really can't see Nash being given a spot.
I didn't include Thornton based on the depth at centre already. That and as stated, may not be suited for the larger ice.
I'd agree that the 3rd goalie really doesn't matter so with that in mind, give it to Harding. He's earned it.
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