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Forums :: Blog World :: Eklund: Looking at 9 on the Bubble for Team Canada. A Very Strong Case for Giroux
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1979AD
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "I'm a Sens Fan!" -Kaptaan
Joined: 09.08.2010

Jan 2 @ 5:21 PM ET
I think it's safe to say Crosby is a better player then he was 4 years ago
- B-Mac


I hope so.
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Jan 2 @ 5:22 PM ET
Steen was born in Winnipeg and holds Cdn/Swe citizenship. He wouldn' be able to play international hockey at the highest level if he didn't decide to choose to play for Sweden, but he could play for Canada, and since there is no actual Team C, I'll keep him on it. But thanks.
- 1979AD


same as Stastny and Pominville, claim all the duos citizenship guys for Team C
BetterCallSaul
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Captain Morgan Rielly
Joined: 05.07.2013

Jan 2 @ 5:23 PM ET
he does, but he'll be playing for Sweden.
has 4 times in the wjr and wc's

the second best team on paper imo.

theyre gonna be good

- hugefemale dog77

Yeah, he'll play for Sweden. I was just commenting on the "not Canadian" part.
1979AD
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "I'm a Sens Fan!" -Kaptaan
Joined: 09.08.2010

Jan 2 @ 5:24 PM ET
same as Stastny and Pominville, claim all the duos citizenship guys for Team C
- DDM-Coga


Didn't realize that. They'd both be on the Team C bubble.
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Jan 2 @ 5:24 PM ET
Steen was born in Winnipeg and holds Cdn/Swe citizenship. He wouldn' be able to play international hockey at the highest level if he didn't decide to choose to play for Sweden, but he could play for Canada, and since there is no actual Team C, I'll keep him on it. But thanks.
- 1979AD

You have to pick one country. He's aleady represented Sweden in international competition.
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Jan 2 @ 5:25 PM ET
Yeah, he'll play for Sweden. I was just commenting on the "not Canadian" part.
- BetterCallSaul

He's not Canadian in the eyes of IIHF. Yes he was born there, but so was Cam Fowler.
1979AD
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "I'm a Sens Fan!" -Kaptaan
Joined: 09.08.2010

Jan 2 @ 5:26 PM ET
You have to pick one country. He's aleady represented Sweden in international competition.
- tomburton99


Not true again. You're on a roll today.

There's some red tape involved, but players can switch the countries they represent as long as they're citizens: http://www.iihf.com/home-...ips/iihf-eligibility.html
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Jan 2 @ 5:27 PM ET
He's not Canadian in the eyes of IIHF. Yes he was born there, but so was Cam Fowler.
- tomburton99


but we have Tyler Myers born in Texas playing for Canada, it evens out
1979AD
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "I'm a Sens Fan!" -Kaptaan
Joined: 09.08.2010

Jan 2 @ 5:28 PM ET
but we have Tyler Myers born in Texas playing for Canada, it evens out
- DDM-Coga


On Team D.
Saskabush
Calgary Flames
Location: Bridge City, SK
Joined: 10.29.2013

Jan 2 @ 5:29 PM ET
You didnt ge my point, his stats show he turns over the puck more than he takes it away, so if he is effective on the PK, he would have strong takeaway numbers, but he has really weak ones. So statistically he isnt a strong PKer, someone who turns over the puck twice as much as he takes it away isnt an ideal guy in my mind
- DDM-Coga


STOP USING FACTS WHEN DISCUSSING KUNITZ . My vote is against him making the team (although he could very well make it). He has a valid reason for bring Kunitz, but come on man, he has to agree that there are many valid reasons against bringing him too (you have done a good job in bringing up those points)
Brianandr1
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: NYC, NY
Joined: 12.28.2013

Jan 2 @ 5:34 PM ET
STOP USING FACTS WHEN DISCUSSING KUNITZ . My vote is against him making the team (although he could very well make it). He has a valid reason for bring Kunitz, but come on man, he has to agree that there are many valid reasons against bringing him too (you have done a good job in bringing up those points)
- Saskabush

I agree with this there are many arguments both ways on this . . But one that I won't except is " he s not first line Canadian material" . This is pretentious nonsense and makes us sound like Yankee fans
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Jan 2 @ 5:34 PM ET
but we have Tyler Myers born in Texas playing for Canada, it evens out
- DDM-Coga

didn't nedved play for Canada after defecting??
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Jan 2 @ 5:36 PM ET
Not true again. You're on a roll today.

There's some red tape involved, but players can switch the countries they represent as long as they're citizens: http://www.iihf.com/home-...ips/iihf-eligibility.html

- 1979AD

Quoted directly from the website.

"He has an international transfer card (ITC) that shows the transfer to the national association of his new country and which was approved and dated at least four years before the start of the IIHF competition in which he wishes to participate."

So Steen would have had to switch 4 years ago.
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Jan 2 @ 5:42 PM ET
I agree with this there are many arguments both ways on this . . But one that I won't except is " he s not first line Canadian material" . This is pretentious nonsense and makes us sound like Yankee fans
- Brianandr1


He is not a 1st line Canadian Material, any guy who plays wtih Crosby will almost automatically get that benefit attached to him. Take Kunitz out of Pittsburgh and its highly unlikely he is even mentioned. There are true 1st line guys who can take that spot riding shot gun with Sid and offer more that Kunitz can. I would rather have Couture or Benn in that spot.

The chemistry with Sid thing doesnt sell me on him.
therealagent
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 01.15.2012

Jan 2 @ 5:43 PM ET
didn't nedved play for Canada after defecting??
- hugefemale dog77


yes, played on the 1994 canadian olympic team while he was a hold out after getting canadian citizenship. he also played for the czech's again at age 40 at the world championships. this is not a good looking roster but it's probably most remembered for forsberg's goal against hirsch. http://www.hockeycanada.c.../Olympics/1994/CAN-Roster

Brianandr1
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: NYC, NY
Joined: 12.28.2013

Jan 2 @ 5:43 PM ET
Quoted directly from the website.

"He has an international transfer card (ITC) that shows the transfer to the national association of his new country and which was approved and dated at least four years before the start of the IIHF competition in which he wishes to participate."

So Steen would have had to switch 4 years ago.

- tomburton99

Seeing letang's name pop up a lot on people's teams ? He been hurt most of the season... Is that bc of the larger ice surface? And over who ? Weber doughty pieteranglo and Keith are locks . .
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Jan 2 @ 5:47 PM ET
Seeing letang's name pop up a lot on people's teams ? He been hurt most of the season... Is that bc of the larger ice surface? And over who ? Weber doughty pieteranglo and Keith are locks . .
- Brianandr1

Last 3 spots on D battle between Letang, Subban, Seabrook, Hamhuis, Boyle, Green and Vlasic.
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Jan 2 @ 5:49 PM ET
Last 3 spots on D battle between Letang, Subban, Seabrook, Hamhuis, Boyle, Green and Vlasic.
- tomburton99


Jay-Bo will be on the team
Brianandr1
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: NYC, NY
Joined: 12.28.2013

Jan 2 @ 5:51 PM ET
Last 3 spots on D battle between Letang, Subban, Seabrook, Hamhuis, Boyle, Green and Vlasic.
- tomburton99

I could see letang being effect on the wider ice . . Thought 8d men selected . . What about j Bo?
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Jan 2 @ 5:51 PM ET
Jay-Bo will be on the team
- DDM-Coga

Forgot J-Bo. Think they keep Keith and Seabrook together?
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Jan 2 @ 5:52 PM ET
I could see letang being effect on the wider ice . . Thought 8d men selected . . What about j Bo?
- Brianandr1

Team USA brought 8, not the best 8, but 8 none the less. Would Canada? Unless killed by injuries, that guy probably won't play.
canadianpenfan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary
Joined: 05.13.2010

Jan 2 @ 5:54 PM ET
Which of those guys consistently kill penalties Bergeron and Toews , that's its . Kunitz has been a main stay on Pitts penalty kill which is ranked second in the NHL , I love perry, Getzlaf , couture . . Question: do you want them out there in the third period of a 2 2 game in the metal round?? There are prob 25 players better at it among Canadian forwards then Kunitz. Which are being considered for team canada???
- Brianandr1



Dude, a mainstay? Kunitz doesn't kill penalties often. He's totalled all of 4:07 on the PK this year. For the ENTIRE YEAR. Divided by games played that's a whopping 5 seconds a game.

I'm not going to get into this debate because I find it pointless but using Kunitz's PK ability is an awful argument.
therealagent
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 01.15.2012

Jan 2 @ 5:57 PM ET
Dude, a mainstay? Kunitz doesn't kill penalties often. He's totalled all of 4:07 on the PK this year. For the ENTIRE YEAR. Divided by games played that's a whopping 5 seconds a game.

I'm not going to get into this debate because I find it pointless but using Kunitz's PK ability is an awful argument.

- canadianpenfan


Like Kunitz. Like chemistry but when you have the talent pool that Canada has he doesn't make the team. Kunitz is great with Crosby. Imagine how great Benn, Hall, Giroux, etc., would be.
Canuckleafer
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 01.18.2013

Jan 2 @ 5:57 PM ET
Jay-Bo will be on the team
- DDM-Coga


Especially since he's a lefty.
BetterCallSaul
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Captain Morgan Rielly
Joined: 05.07.2013

Jan 2 @ 5:57 PM ET
Forgot J-Bo. Think they keep Keith and Seabrook together?
- tomburton99

Doughty - Weber
Keith - Seabrook
Bouwmeester - Pietrangelo
Boyle - Letang
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