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I would definitely put Kunitz in there because the chemistry with Crosby. it's a short tourney, why go look for new chemistry when you can slot someone who has great chemistry and a toughness to the game |
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Giroux-Crosby-Stamkos
Sharp-Toews-Duchene
Couture-Tavares-Seguin
Benn-Getzlaf-Perry
(Hall, Bergeron)
Keith - Seabrook
Subban - Weber
Boumeester- Pietrangelo
(Doughty)
Price
Luongo
Smith
these lines aren't anything I would set in stone....but i think this team is solid for the big ice, guys like Thornton can't be as effective on the big ice especially with the fast mobile teams that the european teams will be bringing. Seguin is a long shot for sure, but I like his speed and ability at Center over a guy like Hall....plus the added chemistry with a guy like Benn if there needs to be some line juggling
that Benn-Getzlaf-Perry line is gold tho, my god that line would destroy in the NHL lol |
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Giroux-Crosby-Stamkos
Sharp-Toews-Duchene
Couture-Tavares-Seguin
Benn-Getzlaf-Perry
(Hall, Bergeron)
Keith - Seabrook
Subban - Weber
Boumeester- Pietrangelo
(Doughty)
Price
Luongo
Smith
these lines aren't anything I would set in stone....but i think this team is solid for the big ice, guys like Thornton can't be as effective on the big ice especially with the fast mobile teams that the european teams will be bringing. Seguin is a long shot for sure, but I like his speed and ability at Center over a guy like Hall....plus the added chemistry with a guy like Benn if there needs to be some line juggling
that Benn-Getzlaf-Perry line is gold tho, my god that line would destroy in the NHL lol  - B-Mac
Id rather see Doughty paired with Keith and Seabs as the extra D man, if even on the roster at all....And im not so sure about Seguin bein on there either...Other than that, pretty solid. |
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From that group you put up there I'd only take Thornton, Couture and Carter out.
Insert Kunitz, Benn and Sharp (or Hall) and you'll have a more balanced lineup. - Orpik44
couture is on this team.
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Seabrook is a must for me, he is underrated. He brings leadership and great defensive abilities to the team, not to mention his offence has picked up this year |
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Giroux-Crosby-Stamkos
Sharp-Toews-Duchene
Couture-Tavares-Seguin
Benn-Getzlaf-Perry
(Hall, Bergeron)
Keith - Seabrook
Subban - Weber
Boumeester- Pietrangelo
(Doughty)
Price
Luongo
Smith
these lines aren't anything I would set in stone....but i think this team is solid for the big ice, guys like Thornton can't be as effective on the big ice especially with the fast mobile teams that the european teams will be bringing. Seguin is a long shot for sure, but I like his speed and ability at Center over a guy like Hall....plus the added chemistry with a guy like Benn if there needs to be some line juggling
that Benn-Getzlaf-Perry line is gold tho, my god that line would destroy in the NHL lol  - B-Mac
as soon as someone takes doughty out of the top 6 they lose all credibility and can no longer be taken seriously.
its literally not that far off from removing toews from our forward core.
and one other thing; seguin is great and definitely deserves a look. but using speed as a reason u like someone over OVER hall?..i think u might be confused.
and being center might actually be abit of a hinderance in canadas case. with having so many centers, a guy who is a natural winger might actually get the nod.
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as soon as someone takes doughty out of the top 6 they lose all credibility and can no longer be taken seriously.
its literally not far off from removing toews from our forward core.
and one other thing; seguin is great and definitely deserves a look. but using speed as a reason u like someone over OVER hall?..i think u might be confused.
where do people get these insane ideas? - hugefemale dog77
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as soon as someone takes doughty out of the top 6 they lose all credibility and can no longer be taken seriously.
its literally not far off from removing toews from our forward core.
and one other thing; seguin is great and definitely deserves a look. but using speed as a reason u like someone over OVER hall?..i think u might be confused.
where do people get these insane ideas? - hugefemale dog77
agreed
i always assumed that if seabrook makes it he dbe paired with keith... chemistry once again ... doughty with weber |
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Wow, some of you people need to watch players before you critic them. Kunitz is not a product of Crosby. Are his numbers enhance by Crosby, sure, but not nearly to the degree you all make it out to be. Kunitz hockey IQ is almost on par with Crosby if you watch him play. He know exactly where Crosby is going to be just as much as Crosby knows where he is going to be. These two guys feed off of each other, it isn't a one way street of Kunitz feeding off of Crosby.
Personally I couldn't care less if Kunitz makes the team or not, because in my opinion it isn't a huge dropoff or increase one way or the other because Canada is so stacked at forward.
Also, why are there so many Kunitz vs Giroux comparisons, I personally think both of those guys will make the team, and it isn't going to be one or the other. I think Giroux is a definite, and I think Kunitz makes it over some of the other bubble guys. |
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agreed
i always assumed that if seabrook makes it he dbe paired with keith... chemistry once again ... doughty with weber - Brianandr1
I actually like doughty and keith together.
in 2010 I think seabs making it had a lot to do with chemistry. but by the end of the tourney keith was moved with drew and they were our top pair anyway with seabs ice time cut.
I wouldn't be completely opposed to seabrook making it. a great player.
but id like to see;
doughty-keith
weber-subban
pietr-jaybo
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Seabrook is a must for me, he is underrated. He brings leadership and great defensive abilities to the team, not to mention his offence has picked up this year - huangism
I love him to death and he's clutch, but im worried about his pace on the big ice compared to some of the other options out there. Id put him on the team as a 7th or 8th Dman if anything. |
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I actually like doughty and keith together.
in 2010 I think seabs making it had a lot to do with chemistry. but by the end of the tourney keith was moved with drew and they were our top pair anyway with seabs ice time cut.
I wouldn't be completely opposed to seabrook making it. a great player.
but id like to see;
doughty-keith
weber-subban
pietr-jaybo
xtras; seabrook/letang - hugefemale dog77
I like those picks, but I'm thinking they might add one more left-hander for the extras. Not sure who wouldn't make it, but Team Canada's so right-handed, you might need one more lefty just in case Keith gets hurt (because I don't think you can run JBo with five righties). |
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Wow, some of you people need to watch players before you critic them. Kunitz is not a product of Crosby. Are his numbers enhance by Crosby, sure, but not nearly to the degree you all make it out to be. Kunitz hockey IQ is almost on par with Crosby if you watch him play. He know exactly where Crosby is going to be just as much as Crosby knows where he is going to be. These two guys feed off of each other, it isn't a one way street of Kunitz feeding off of Crosby.
Personally I couldn't care less if Kunitz makes the team or not, because in my opinion it isn't a huge dropoff or increase one way or the other because Canada is so stacked at forward.
Also, why are there so many Kunitz vs Giroux comparisons, I personally think both of those guys will make the team, and it isn't going to be one or the other. I think Giroux is a definite, and I think Kunitz makes it over some of the other bubble guys. - PensFan1103
I don't think anyone is trying to say that Kunitz isn't skilled, and that ALL of his production is a product of playing with Crosby. But, ask yourself this: would or could he do this consistently without Crosby? I think the vast majority on this site would say no. If Canada iced two international teams, he'd be on Canada B. I just don't see how you can take him over players with pedigrees for scoring or play-making. As well, everyone who seems to think he should be on the team is automatically placing him on the 1st line with Crosby... Really...? You want your first line left wing to be Kunitz? I think that's the issue here, is how can you justify it when you look at the list of other players? Chemistry is a key to the puzzle, but at this level, a very small one I would think. |
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Wow, some of you people need to watch players before you critic them. Kunitz is not a product of Crosby. Are his numbers enhance by Crosby, sure, but not nearly to the degree you all make it out to be. Kunitz hockey IQ is almost on par with Crosby if you watch him play. He know exactly where Crosby is going to be just as much as Crosby knows where he is going to be. These two guys feed off of each other, it isn't a one way street of Kunitz feeding off of Crosby.
Personally I couldn't care less if Kunitz makes the team or not, because in my opinion it isn't a huge dropoff or increase one way or the other because Canada is so stacked at forward.
Also, why are there so many Kunitz vs Giroux comparisons, I personally think both of those guys will make the team, and it isn't going to be one or the other. I think Giroux is a definite, and I think Kunitz makes it over some of the other bubble guys. - PensFan1103
kunitz is a very solid player. and I wouldn't be too angry if he made it.
but kunitz would not be putting up those numbers without Crosby. he's played with some other great centers (getzlaf) and that much has been proven.
I just think that there are other more talented wingers that would of course put up the same numbers alongside Crosby. probably better in fact as they're putting pu relative numbers ALONE and without that help.
there's an argument to be made about short tourney chemistry for sure. but I don't believe kunitz is near one of the top 8 Canadian wingers and I wouldn't take him
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kunitz is a very solid player. and I wouldn't be too angry if he made it.
but kunitz would not be putting up those numbers without Crosby. he's played with some other great centers (getzlaf) and that much has been proven.
I just think that there are other more talented wingers that would of course put up the same numbers alongside Crosby. probably better in fact as they're putting pu relative numbers ALONE and without that help.
there's an argument to be made about short tourney chemistry for sure. but I don't believe kunitz is near one of the top 8 Canadian wingers and I wouldn't take him - hugefemale dog77
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B-Mac
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as soon as someone takes doughty out of the top 6 they lose all credibility and can no longer be taken seriously.
its literally not that far off from removing toews from our forward core.
and one other thing; seguin is great and definitely deserves a look. but using speed as a reason u like someone over OVER hall?..i think u might be confused.
and being center might actually be abit of a hinderance in canadas case. with having so many centers, a guy who is a natural winger might actually get the nod.
where do people get these insane ideas? - hugefemale dog77
Doughty only isn't in my pairings because I though of his name last lol he could easily replace Subban or Seabrook....Keith Seabrook is just an obvious pairing to make so i made it.
Seguin played a ton of Wing in Boston, his versatility to play center or wing is what i was implying as in game changes occur/injuries, and the speed over Hall wasn't to say he was faster but more of he has the same dynamic speed Hall does, so you're not losing that putting him in the lineup over Hall.
as I said in my original post none of this is set in stone in my mind in terms of lines and pairings....please go back and read before you question credibility |
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I like those picks, but I'm thinking they might add one more left-hander for the extras. Not sure who wouldn't make it, but Team Canada's so right-handed, you might need one more lefty just in case Keith gets hurt (because I don't think you can run JBo with five righties). - AllInForFlyers
Originally it was Vlassic, but a lot of the recent talk has been Hamhuis.
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I don't think anyone is trying to say that Kunitz isn't skilled, and that ALL of his production is a product of playing with Crosby. But, ask yourself this: would or could he do this consistently without Crosby? I think the vast majority on this site would say no. If Canada iced two international teams, he'd be on Canada B. I just don't see how you can take him over players with pedigrees for scoring or play-making. As well, everyone who seems to think he should be on the team is automatically placing him on the 1st line with Crosby... Really...? You want your first line left wing to be Kunitz? I think that's the issue here, is how can you justify it when you look at the list of other players? Chemistry is a key to the puzzle, but at this level, a very small one I would think. - Flyers_V88
fantastic post. much better put than I was able to
canada's first line left winger is chris kunitz?? no
and he's not gonna be put on any other line as he's making the team cause of his partnership with sid.
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Originally it was Vlassic, but a lot of the recent talk has been Hamhuis. - Canuckleafer
Yeah, I could see either one of those -- it'll be somebody like that, a defensively responsible guy who can move the puck just a bit, low-maintenance. |
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I like those picks, but I'm thinking they might add one more left-hander for the extras. Not sure who wouldn't make it, but Team Canada's so right-handed, you might need one more lefty just in case Keith gets hurt (because I don't think you can run JBo with five righties). - AllInForFlyers
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Originally it was Vlassic, but a lot of the recent talk has been Hamhuis. - Canuckleafer
question answered. merci.
easy to forget hamhuis as an extra.
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I disagree. Playing on the RW with either Toews or Bergeron he's got a solid two-way game and is a guy that can sub in at C and still be effective on the dot (51.4%). - MaximumBone
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This is true -- you're on fire today - AllInForFlyers
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I don't think anyone is trying to say that Kunitz isn't skilled, and that ALL of his production is a product of playing with Crosby. But, ask yourself this: would or could he do this consistently without Crosby? I think the vast majority on this site would say no. If Canada iced two international teams, he'd be on Canada B. I just don't see how you can take him over players with pedigrees for scoring or play-making. As well, everyone who seems to think he should be on the team is automatically placing him on the 1st line with Crosby... Really...? You want your first line left wing to be Kunitz? I think that's the issue here, is how can you justify it when you look at the list of other players? Chemistry is a key to the puzzle, but at this level, a very small one I would think. - Flyers_V88
Disagree . . Crosby has been hurt for half the past four seasons , and in a 14 day tournament chemistry is one of the most important factors , it's seems like the majority here want to pick the top 14 forwards regardless of how they fit like an all star team . . Kunitz is not as good as Benn, St. Louis , giroux, hall, almost every name mentioned , but the question is what makes the team better for a 14 day tournament , the answer is Kunitz on the team as sid s lw bc of the gauranteed chemistry and as a penalty killer/ shot blocker |
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