Muskoka group 2.0
Kessel
Dion
Clarkson
Bozak
Gunnarson

And now randy
- MTL1

add JVR Bernier Lupul and Kadri to that list. They want to get involved in this real estate too.

That little swede the leafs have can certainly put the puck in the net...Just scored his 3rd of WJC
- Fruitcakenipple

Can they trade him yet?

Gunnarsson? No. Bozak looks like he'll live up to 4 mil a year if he can stay healthy, for some weird reason Kessel/JVR thrive with him. Kessel is smooth sailing. Dion is unknown at this point, will probably fall off for the last couple years of his deal. Clarkson is an issue if he doesnt figure it out.

Not close to a muskoka 5. I only worry about Clarkson.
- dionschenn

Im worried about Clarkson and Phaneuf for the final years, but both are playing solid hockey right now even if the scoresheet doesn't always reflect it. This is nothing even close to the muskoka 5. I dont think the injuries have kept them from being world beaters, but it has cost them at least a couple of wins IMO.

Can they trade him yet?
- Colin Dambrauskas

LOL....Sure...

Can they trade him yet?
- Colin Dambrauskas

If anyone says yes, then you'll post how Crosby Neal and Malkin make 21 right?

Lets talk in 3 years once every team locks up 3 higher profile players. Because I bet there will be many teams paying over 20 mil for mediocrity. This is the 1st year of a new cap, and the leafs are doing fine.
- IRON.MAIDEN

Those 3 are closer to $23+ after malkins deal kicks in
But will provide guaranteed results

Do you think all 3 fulfill their contracts in Toronto
I think kessel has the best chance

Gilmour
22yrs old - 1984-85 St. Louis Blues NHL 78 21 36 57 (0.73ppg)
23 yrs old - 1985-86 St. Louis Blues NHL 74 25 28 53 (0.71ppg)

Kadri
22yrs - 2012-13 Toronto Maple Leafs NHL 48 18 26 44 (0.91ppg)
23 yrs - 2013-14 Toronto Maple Leafs NHL 37 11 12 23 (0.62ppg)



Just saying....not sure why people are being so hard on Kadri who just turned 23...
- Colin Dambrauskas

Kadri is a cocky punk. And will never work as hard as Doug, while lacking all Dougs heart.

I want Kadri on this team, but keep your stats Colin, there is no comparison between either player.

I don't know why people are freaking out..... some sound like

Anyways, here we go,

1) Leafs are not doing great but they are letting the season come to them, it is a long season and the key, as everyone know is being in "it" come march. I expect by then 4-5 teams will still be within 5 points of each other and there will be battles. That is when I plan on judging what we have. (Unless the leafs fall out of contention before March, then we know what we have.

2) There will be no major coaching or personnel changes unless there is a problem behind the scenes or if a great deal comes up. The big boss Lew what's a cup and soon, if Nonis makes a move and the leafs tank he is gone, so he will play it safe this year.

3) (This is an opinion) Big Boss Lew and the Leafs will not want to upset Bern, so Riem will be shown the door at some point, he is a RFA this year so hold some amazing value. When Bolland gets back (or is imminent) the package and Riem and Kadri would fetch something quality, the only issue I see, will Bolland be back with enough time to evaluate his health/game quality before you pull the trigger?
IMO Nonis will not do anything and trade Riem after the season.

Thoughts?

Those 3 are closer to $23+ after malkins deal kicks in
But will provide guaranteed results

Do you think all 3 fulfill their contracts in Toronto
I think kessel has the best chance
- MTL1

Mr concussion will not fulfill his contract in Pitts. Just saying.

add JVR Bernier Lupul and Kadri to that list. They want to get involved in this real estate too.
- IRON.MAIDEN

TSN is reporting that Rielly is the ring leader. He is aiming high. According to Dutchie, the new crew refers to themselves as the "Haliburton 10"

Kadri is a cocky punk. And will never work as hard as Doug, while lacking all Dougs heart.

I want Kadri on this team, but keep your stats Colin, there is no comparison between either player.
- IRON.MAIDEN

Kadri is all heart... Kid loves the game. Gfy. Kadri has a decade to prove if this comparison is anywhere close to dougie.

add JVR Bernier Lupul and Kadri to that list. They want to get involved in this real estate too.
- IRON.MAIDEN

Driving up the cottage rental price that's for sure

Kadri is a cocky punk. And will never work as hard as Doug, while lacking all Dougs heart.

I want Kadri on this team, but keep your stats Colin, there is no comparison between either player.
- IRON.MAIDEN

I agree that Kadri will never be Doug but I think you're a little harsh. It's not fair to assume that Kadri does not work hard, and he actually does play with some heart(throws big time hits for a small guy and actually looks happy during goals). I don't understand why people point to him being "cocky" as a reason to trade him.

TSN is reporting that Rielly is the ring leader. He is aiming high. According to Dutchie, it's new crew refers to themselves as the "Haliburton 10"
- systemtool

Forgot about Rielly!

Thats got a nice ring to it.

I heard whispers that Franson, Ranger, Liles, Raymond, and Reimer wanted in, so they could make it the Bobcaygeon 15

Muskoka group 2.0
Kessel
Dion
Clarkson
Bozak
Gunnarson

And now randy
- MTL1

Kadri is a cocky punk. And will never work as hard as Doug, while lacking all Dougs heart.

I want Kadri on this team, but keep your stats Colin, there is no comparison between either player.
- IRON.MAIDEN

Kadri is a cocky punk...sure...but again, hes still young, has a TON of raw talent, has that feisty edge to his game, and still has some development to go. He will be a solid player in a few years and if not for the Leafs, you'll be kicking yourself for giving up on him.

I don't know why people are freaking out..... some sound like

Anyways, here we go,

1) Leafs are not doing great but they are letting the season come to them, it is a long season and the key, as everyone know is being in "it" come march. I expect by then 4-5 teams will still be within 5 points of each other and there will be battles. That is when I plan on judging what we have. (Unless the leafs fall out of contention before March, then we know what we have.

2) There will be no major coaching or personnel changes unless there is a problem behind the scenes or if a great deal comes up. The big boss Lew what's a cup and soon, if Nonis makes a move and the leafs tank he is gone, so he will play it safe this year.

3) (This is an opinion) Big Boss Lew and the Leafs will not want to upset Bern, so Riem will be shown the door at some point, he is a RFA this year so hold some amazing value. When Bolland gets back (or is imminent) the package and Riem and Kadri would fetch something quality, the only issue I see, will Bolland be back with enough time to evaluate his health/game quality before you pull the trigger?
IMO Nonis will not do anything and trade Riem after the season.

Thoughts?
- SgtSerge

I can see another leafs flyers deal with the other brother coming back
He did have connection with Lewiewike previously

Kadri is a cocky punk. And will never work as hard as Doug, while lacking all Dougs heart.

I want Kadri on this team, but keep your stats Colin, there is no comparison between either player.
- IRON.MAIDEN

sorry buddy, your opinion doesnt trump anyone elses.

kadri aint going anywhere, hes home grown, leaf drafted and our highest skilled center at 23 years of age.

only way hes seen the door is if there is a serious, and i mean serious problem with him in the dressing room / coaches...

I agree that Kadri will never be Doug but I think you're a little harsh. It's not fair to assume that Kadri does not work hard, and he actually does play with some heart(throws big time hits for a small guy and actually looks happy during goals). I don't understand why people point to him being "cocky" as a reason to trade him.
- dionschenn

Never said cocky is a reason to trade him.

I've said he is talented in previous posts, and is cocky as all (frank). That he lacks the heart to take the next step. Like I said, I know him from JR days, and it was his knock then. I know attitudes can change, but his wont. Not the first ex knight to be like that.

See: Schremp, Rob.

sorry buddy, your opinion doesnt trump anyone elses.

kadri aint going anywhere, hes home grown, leaf drafted and our highest skilled center at 23 years of age.

only way hes seen the door is if there is a serious, and i mean serious problem with him in the dressing room / coaches...
- big_dion

Yes it does.



And again, I don't want him traded. Please follow along.

Those 3 are closer to $23+ after malkins deal kicks in
But will provide guaranteed results

Do you think all 3 fulfill their contracts in Toronto
I think kessel has the best chance
- MTL1

buddy you just signed briere, you had gomez before that, and your talking contracts ? lol give me a break

I can see another leafs flyers deal with the other brother coming back
He did have connection with Lewiewike previously
- MTL1

I could see that too, but I am not sure I would trade Kadri for Schenn 1 for 1....

Yes it does.



And again, I don't want him traded. Please follow along.
- IRON.MAIDEN

oh really?

wel see how far that gets you.

TSN is reporting that Rielly is the ring leader. He is aiming high. According to Dutchie, the new crew refers to themselves as the "Haliburton 10"
- systemtool

Speaking of TSN how many of you are looking forward to 12 years of sportsnet

Kadri is a cocky punk...sure...but again, hes still young, has a TON of raw talent, has that feisty edge to his game, and still has some development to go. He will be a solid player in a few years and if not for the Leafs, you'll be kicking yourself for giving up on him.
- Colin Dambrauskas

Never wanted to give up on him.

And Kadri will fizzle more and more with every hiccup. This isn't the type of guy who looks at a problem as a challenge. He looks at a challenge as a problem.