If we had 6 Phaneuf's we'd have zero worries about out defense. Trading the best guy we have...BY A (frank)ING MILE...is idiotic. He's a top 20 d-man in the league and is being paid appropriately.
- djamon

top 20 d making top 5 salary

yup.. thats leaf economics 101

Problem is, unless Bolland re-signs i really don't see who would be Captain. Lupul seems a popular choice for 35 games. That leaves, 47 games. Clarkson?? He'd get even more heat.
- walshyleafsfan

Ranger. Done.

not franson.. with arbitration he is looking at 4 mill easy.... and he is far too much of a defensive liability to be paid that much
- Dozzer

Abso(frank)inglutely

top 20 d making top 5 salary

yup.. thats leaf economics 101
- Dozzer

Dude, you said you were done with this.

Go to Williams. Have a latte.

Ranger. Done.
- IRON.MAIDEN

I'm in

i own da northwest....

another post along those lines and you'll be gone til 2015

Leafs have approximately $21M in cap space next year to sign 10 guys - they have 13 players accounting for $50M

RFA
Reimer
Franson
Gardiner
Holland

UFA
Bolland
Kulemin
McClement
Raymond

How do the Leafs split up the $20M for 10 guys?
They can't keep all these guys can they and then go out and add other UFAs?
- MTL1

Clearly all these guys won't be back.

What big-ticket, impact UFA's are available in the off-season?

So, what exactly was your point?

I've really soured on Kulemin so I won't mind if we dont bring him back… Bolland and Mcclement to me are the keepers

Edit: Also isn't the cap supposed to go up?
- ejeezy

Yup the cap is to go up to $71M
Leafs have approximately $21M in cap space next year to sign 10 guys - they have 13 players accounting for $50M

Kulemin is the exact type of player that teams win cups with. Stl, LA, Bos, Chi would love Kuli in their bottom 6
- walshyleafsfan

Ah but at what cost?

Dude, you said you were done with this.

Go to Williams. Have a latte.
- IRON.MAIDEN

oh i dont like the leafs D very much... that one falls under normal day to day

top 20 d making top 5 salary

yup.. thats leaf economics 101
- Dozzer

Did all 20 D become unrestricted free agents at a time when the salary cap and salary floor were at all time highs?

top 20 d making top 5 salary

yup.. thats leaf economics 101
- Dozzer

But how do you say that to a player. Dion, i know you just got 6.5 milly, but let's be honest, you don't score as many points as PK, so..... would you accept 2.25 milly per year?

i own da northwest....

another post along those lines and you'll be gone til 2015
- Dozzer

What did he say?

DION (frank)IN PHANEUF!!!!!!! WOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!

top 20 d making top 5 salary

yup.. thats leaf economics 101
- Dozzer

You've been told this before, but I'll say it again. Dion (and Phil too) are the first ones getting paid in what is going to be the new economics of the NHL. Watch what some of the UFA's get over the next 12 months and you'll see Dion's deal in perspective.

If we had 6 Phaneuf's we'd have zero worries about out defense. Trading the best guy we have...BY A (frank)ING MILE...is idiotic. He's a top 20 d-man in the league and is being paid appropriately.
- djamon

42nd in points
12th in +/-
81st in PP points
24th in TOI
8th in hits
21st in blocked shots
33rd in shots

Most common stats when assessing a defenseman of his ilk, in my opinion, and he ranks 31st overall. Just saying.

not franson.. with arbitration he is looking at 4 mill easy.... and he is far too much of a defensive liability to be paid that much
- Dozzer

The worst part is that a lot of these guys, if not all, will be gone for nothing because we won't want to damage our playoff chances

Yup the cap is to go up to $71M
Leafs have approximately $21M in cap space next year to sign 10 guys - they have 13 players accounting for $50M
- MTL1

Also I hate to say it but we can probably cross Reimer off the list, too.

Yup the cap is to go up to $71M
Leafs have approximately $21M in cap space next year to sign 10 guys - they have 13 players accounting for $50M
- MTL1

It sounds like they may have to make a trade between now and next year, or..... maybe just play 17 guys.

It's 50%-50% what they decide.

Kulemin is the exact type of player that teams win cups with. Stl, LA, Bos, Chi would love Kuli in their bottom 6
- walshyleafsfan

For 4 (frank)ing million a year ?

What did he say?
- IRON.MAIDEN

I won't repeat it, but it was an inside joke between sloppy 2nds and I.

Also I hate to say it but we can probably cross Reimer off the list, too.
- ejeezy

Not a fan of how Reimer is being handled this year at all..

Clearly all these guys won't be back.

What big-ticket, impact UFA's are available in the off-season?

So, what exactly was your point?
- Aetherial

i honestly wouldnt be shocked one bit to only see the centres back next year from that list

kuli will get more as an RFA than the leafs are willing to pay and he knows it... so bye bye kuli come the deadline

its loooking like the leafs have given the reigns to bernier... so unless reimer is happy being a back up and getting paid like one he wont be back either.

franson will earn too much to be kept.. same with raymond.. (tho i'd love to find a way to keep him)

For 4 (frank)ing million a year ?
- BoTtLePoLiCe

Why 4? Where's that from?

What did he say?
- IRON.MAIDEN

just talking about a lady friend.