Would you trade Couturier and Morin for Kadri and Gardiner?

It really is. I wasn't sure that Mason was the answer, but wow has he been good. He's giving up more goals than before, but is keeping us in all the games and doing quite well of late in shoot outs.. I am glad to hear other flyers fans see it the same way.
- Hextall271

Mason has no defense. Cant fault the guy. Look what happens when Emery is between the pipes, that guy lost 1 game with Chicago last season. A defense can hide your flaws. truly.

Problem: consistency

This team is comprised heavily of grindy type of players, which by nature can be pretty streaky. Moving Hartnell for a shoot first type of player with some finess would help this team with consistency in scoring.
- 2Real

Goal scoring doesn't look like a problem to me.

I think Flyers fans deserve it....... I cant tell you how many times the Flyers have been beaten in big games, championship games, any games when we were clearly the superior team..... BUT the other team had that GOALIE, and with that our hopes were lost. I know Mason isnt a Brodeur or Hasek but its as clear as day that kid has talent and great positioning, a universe seperates him and Bryzgalov and that guy got a 51 Million dollar contract.
- GOA88

I wonder what kind of deal Mason is going to get. I really hope Homer is smart and offers a bridge deal, 3-4 years at a moderate cap hit, but that will still allow Mason to Cash in big time after that time.

And more often then not the Flyers were also getting beat by the Charpentier's and Raycrofts of the league as much as the Broduers and Haseks.

No doubt, if he's healthy, he'll get more than 4th line minutes in Sochi.
- johndewar

I doubt its as a center though. I think Giroux moves to wing.

Would you trade Couturier and Morin for Kadri and Gardiner?
- youarewrong

Why does Toronto want to move Kadri so much? Attitude? Defensive game?

I doubt its as a center though. I think Giroux moves to wing.
- youarewrong

I think that's exactly where he'll be slotted. Fine by me, I just want to see him get the experience.

Why does Toronto want to move Kadri so much? Attitude? Defensive game?
- Hextall271

I think its attitude. Watching the 24/7 even Coach said he thinks he's a number 1 center right now, and he eventaully wants him to play as a #2.

To me it looks like they are not sure he can fulfill his full potential, but at the same time, he thinks he is better then he is. Plus he has discipline problems. However, it is someone I would take a chance on. Could you imagine a line of Schenn-Kadri-Simmonds?

Would you trade Couturier and Morin for Kadri and Gardiner?
- youarewrong

tempting only because of Gardiner, but no

I think its attitude. Watching the 24/7 even Coach said he thinks he's a number 1 center right now, and he eventaully wants him to play as a #2.

To me it looks like they are not sure he can fulfill his full potential, but at the same time, he thinks he is better then he is. Plus he has discipline problems. However, it is someone I would take a chance on. Could you imagine a line of Schenn-Kadri-Simmonds?
- youarewrong

No way Couturier gets traded, he has shown flashes of pure dominance at age 20.

Mason has no defense. Cant fault the guy. Look what happens when Emery is between the pipes, that guy lost 1 game with Chicago last season. A defense can hide your flaws. truly.
- GOA88

Last night was a true indication of this, one solid defenseman would do wonders, like Clement said, you usually get one attempt to clear it out of the zone, & if you don't, they hem you in for 45 seconds of solid pressure, one solid D man added to the mix would really alleviate some pressure on Mason.

Last night was a true indication of this, one solid defenseman would do wonders, like Clement said, you usually get one attempt to clear it out of the zone, & if you don't, they hem you in for 45 seconds of solid pressure, one solid D man added to the mix would really alleviate some pressure on Mason.
- puckhead17

We have a good group..... we are just missing that true #1 defender. Pronger did wonders, but unfortunately Pronger is a once in a lifetime defender. Nobody even close to his status even when Prongs was like 37-38 years old. I would love to have Suter or Weber or Pietrangelo.

Would you trade Couturier and Morin for Kadri and Gardiner?
- youarewrong

No.

We have a good group..... we are just missing that true #1 defender. Pronger did wonders, but unfortunately Pronger is a once in a lifetime defender. Nobody even close to his status even when Prongs was like 37-38 years old. I would love to have Suter or Weber or Pietrangelo.
- GOA88

same here, but, just one solid guy for starters would help tremendously, & we wouldn't have to unload 1/2 the team to do it. There's no way in Hell we would or could acquire a number 1 guy, it would cost way too much & what team has an extra one for sale?
I would rather look at someone a few years established, then a Gardiner, he would cost a lot, & is still on the learning curve, we don't need that.

It was very obvious in a game like last night, & the same script for most of our wins, Mason has to stop 40 shots for us to be in it, just a solid guy to play in the mix of Kimmo, Coburn, & Grossman, (the others are what they are).

I'm not so sure Dion Phaneuf would have been a good fit here but it sucks to know that he is no longer on the market and no longer an option for the Philadelphia Flyers. Leafs fans hate him.

I'm not so sure Dion Phaneuf would have been a good fit here but it sucks to know that he is no longer on the market and no longer an option for the Philadelphia Flyers. Leafs fans hate him.
- Schenn2shine

They do hate him, ridiculous, but there's no way he was going to UFA?

how many good one's have? (without already knowing of there apparent destination?)

I'm not so sure Dion Phaneuf would have been a good fit here but it sucks to know that he is no longer on the market and no longer an option for the Philadelphia Flyers. Leafs fans hate him.
- Schenn2shine

I dont really think Phaneuf is anything too special. He has his weaknesses. Probably over paid if you ask me. 2nd tier defenseman in my mind.

I dont really think Phaneuf is anything too special. He has his weaknesses. Probably over paid if you ask me. 2nd tier defenseman in my mind.
- GOA88

I dont really think Phaneuf is anything too special. He has his weaknesses. Probably over paid if you ask me. 2nd tier defenseman in my mind.
- GOA88

He's probably still better than the Flyers' top 6 defenders.

- puckhead17

I assume you think he is a shutdown defender? Im sure most of the Leaf nation would disagree with you. He can hit like a tank, he has a cannon shot and he is an above average defender.

He's probably still better than the Flyers' top 6 defenders.
- johndewar

Agreed

fresh blob

Really??? Because Giroux is 2nd in the league in points over the last 3 seasons. Only Malkin has more. I'd say he is a complete lock.
- GOA88

Half these guys agree, half disagree with Giroux making the team.

http://sports.yahoo.com/b...yahoo-184228697--nhl.html

I assume you think he is a shutdown defender? Im sure most of the Leaf nation would disagree with you. He can hit like a tank, he has a cannon shot and he is an above average defender.
- GOA88

if Streit is worth $5 million on the UFA open market, what's Dion worth?

$6 mill? No
in bold, yeah, & he plays a boatload of solid minutes, he would have been & is worth it, & if he was over hyped, the GM & coach would have not agreed on resigning him.

Half these guys agree, half disagree with Giroux making the team.

http://sports.yahoo.com/b...yahoo-184228697--nhl.html
- Feanor

The ones who disagree are a bunch of yahoos!!