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PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Dec 26 @ 4:50 PM ET
POLL


if you were to create a Mount Rushmore of hated Flyers who would you nominate


I will submit Kris Versteeg for consideration.

- Crimsoninja


In the Christmas spirit, are we?
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Dec 26 @ 4:51 PM ET
I always hated him so much. What made him so much worse was that we had to give up Upshall to get him. The team tried to make an excuse that we needed more toughness when we all know it was a cap move to keep Giroux from being sent down. Not saying Upshall is some great player, but he was certainly more valuable than Carcillo, Carcillo, Dan Carcillo
- PhillySportsGuy

my god thank you. no wonder we get along.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Dec 26 @ 4:52 PM ET
Tempting.

We should trade Laughton cause he did nothing in the first WJC game.

And McDavid is clearly over-hyped because he only got 2 assists and no hat tricks.

- wolfhounds

as a wise man once said, ty
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Dec 26 @ 4:54 PM ET
my god thank you. no wonder we get along.
- stayinthefnnet


For some reason the Flyers equate toughness to undisciplined play. Real toughness is timonen standing in front of countless shots.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Dec 26 @ 4:57 PM ET
honestly, i think thats one of my main reasons ive always disliked the flyers. it had more to do with their average "fan". look at the current squad you guys have. its hard as a hockey fan to not respect guys such as matt read, or kimmo timonen. outside of like the irrelevant rinaldo, you guys dont even have anyone to really dislike that much. i get the whole rivalry thing, i do. but for me its mainly centered around the throngs of fans that just drive me nuts. that stereotype is alive and well in the minds of tons of annoying individuals. the whole dudeeeee we should have never gotten rid of carbomb!!!! were the bullies man! look! i have a shirt that says Fly on it! get it! the flyers logo is shaped like a fist! because we are the toughest! Hey wait a minute! they totally didnt call that trip on our guy, the refs totally hate us.
- stayinthefnnet



I'm still a Carbomb fan.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Dec 26 @ 4:58 PM ET
For some reason the Flyers equate toughness to undisciplined play. Real toughness is timonen standing in front of countless shots.
- PhillySportsGuy

i literally cant say yes more. i dont know why most people cant see this. but man, thats just not the bully way.

and you know what, i guarantee you timonen would probably still kill off 30 seconds of a powerplay on one leg. exactly. that is toughness. not some idiot on skates.

this is exactly what i was trying to say. how can someone dislike timonen?
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Dec 26 @ 4:59 PM ET


I'm still a Carbomb fan.

- BulliesPhan87


stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Dec 26 @ 4:59 PM ET


I'm still a Carbomb fan.

- BulliesPhan87

and i thought what we had was real!
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Dec 26 @ 5:00 PM ET


I'm still a Carbomb fan.

- BulliesPhan87


I just hate how the Flyers always take young 'enforcers' because they need time to develop and understand how to play their game. They need to get these guys later in their careers when they understand how to add energy but not hurt their team with dumb penalties and dumb plays.
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Dec 26 @ 5:01 PM ET
Sorry if repost:

Inside the Flyers: Flyers' Hartnell: The player that keeps on giving

Flyers left winger Scott Hartnell, two years removed from scoring a career-high 37 goals, is not having his best season.

Off the ice, however, he is an all-star.

Fact is, there is no one on the Flyers - and perhaps in the entire NHL - who does more for kids than Hartnell. A self-deprecating sort, Hartnell didn't get angry a few years ago when Flyers fan Seth Hastings gently poked fun at him by starting a #HartnellDown hashtag on Twitter. The hashtag was in reference to Hartnell's habit of falling down on the ice. The good-natured Hartnell embraced the idea and it has created a cottage industry that includes #HartnellDown merchandise, a website that features a Down-O-Meter that tracks his falls, and a charitable foundation.

All to aid kids.


During a question-and-answer period, a patient who was about 4 years old, had a serious inquiry.

"Is Sidney Crosby really a crybaby?" he asked.

Hartnell, who had his 500th career point in Monday's 4-1 win over the Minnesota Wild, couldn't contain his laughter.

"Absolutely," he said of the Pittsburgh Penguins star.


PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Dec 26 @ 5:01 PM ET

- hammarby31



so (frank)ing creepy.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Dec 26 @ 5:04 PM ET
and i thought what we had was real!
- stayinthefnnet

stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Dec 26 @ 5:04 PM ET
Sorry if repost:

Inside the Flyers: Flyers' Hartnell: The player that keeps on giving

- wolfhounds

when i go on rants about hartnell, its more just about how as an nhl player he is more of a problem than a solution for a team anymore. that being said, ive never heard anything but awesome things about him as a person.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Dec 26 @ 5:04 PM ET
i literally cant say yes more. i dont know why most people cant see this. but man, thats just not the bully way.

and you know what, i guarantee you timonen would probably still kill off 30 seconds of a powerplay on one leg. exactly. that is toughness. not some idiot on skates.

this is exactly what i was trying to say. how can someone dislike timonen?

- stayinthefnnet


I thought Laperriere was the best 'tough guy' this team has had in so long. He was smart, played well defensively and played great on the PK. He would fight anyone and you could roll him out with 5 minutes left and a 1 goal lead without worrying. He was the perfect 4th liner.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Dec 26 @ 5:05 PM ET
when i go on rants about hartnell, its more just about how as an nhl player he is more of a problem than a solution for a team anymore. that being said, ive never heard anything but awesome things about him as a person.
- stayinthefnnet


I met him once in Old City when I was getting a sandwich from Campos. He's really down to earth. We talked about women. lol
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Dec 26 @ 5:06 PM ET

- BulliesPhan87

that sketch probably took approximately three and a half hours to complete. and hes still closer to being jackson pollack than he is to being a hockey player.
hey! lets make the dude a folk hero!
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Dec 26 @ 5:06 PM ET
I thought Laperriere was the best 'tough guy' this team has had in so long. He was smart, played well defensively and played great on the PK. He would fight anyone and you could roll him out with 5 minutes left and a 1 goal lead without worrying. He was the perfect 4th liner.
- PhillySportsGuy

and he wasnt a scumbag idiot either.

i like his work on comcast to boot. totally agree man
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Dec 26 @ 5:08 PM ET
I thought Laperriere was the best 'tough guy' this team has had in so long. He was smart, played well defensively and played great on the PK. He would fight anyone and you could roll him out with 5 minutes left and a 1 goal lead without worrying. He was the perfect 4th liner.
- PhillySportsGuy


Asham wasn't bad either.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Dec 26 @ 5:08 PM ET
that sketch probably took approximately three and a half hours to complete. and hes still closer to being jackson pollack than he is to being a hockey player.
hey! lets make the dude a folk hero!

- stayinthefnnet

Not just a hero, a legend.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Dec 26 @ 5:09 PM ET
and he wasnt a scumbag idiot either.

i like his work on comcast to boot. totally agree man

- stayinthefnnet


He's behind the bench now

He was far from a scumbag. He was universally respected around the league.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Dec 26 @ 5:09 PM ET
I met him once in Old City when I was getting a sandwich from Campos. He's really down to earth. We talked about women. lol
- PhillySportsGuy

im sure hes had his share haha

that being said, im glad you guys are paying him for the next 5 years or so
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Dec 26 @ 5:09 PM ET


wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Dec 26 @ 5:10 PM ET
im sure hes had his share haha

that being said, im glad you guys are paying him for the next 5 years or so

- stayinthefnnet


He'll get his mojo back on the run to the playoffs. Just watch and see.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Dec 26 @ 5:10 PM ET
Asham wasn't bad either.
- wolfhounds

i used to respect asham a good bit. was what he was, even had some touch for a goonish guy. but then a lot of stuff, most of which was in a penguins sweater if i recall, really turned me off to him.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Dec 26 @ 5:10 PM ET
im sure hes had his share haha

that being said, im glad you guys are paying him for the next 5 years or so

- stayinthefnnet


He can be so effective when he's on his game. He's gone through these stretches in the past where he's ineffective and undisciplined. Then, all of the sudden, he finds great chemistry and becomes the fan favorite who scores goals then fights Phaneuf just as the puck crosses the line.
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