I get the feeling we may see Akeson or Vandevelde as well, if McGinn doesn't produce. And McGinn hasn't been producing in the AHL lately either.
- MBFlyerfan

On the team website, it lists Tye McGinn. Prior to Holmgren's announcement on Lecavalier, he was not listed.

Personally, I'd recall Akeson. McGinn ran red hot or ice cold during his earlier stint. VandeVelde is only signed to an AHL deal, and the Flyers would have to actually sign him prior to being able to recall him.


And Panaccio just tweeted that McGinn is in Ottawa with the team

It's sickening. There's no way he should be playing tonight.
- BulliesPhan87

What did you think of the Emery fight? I thought that was WAY worse, since Rinaldo didnt even land any punches, and gave the other guy time to drop his gloves.

So... has anyone discussed what Couts might bring us from Edmonton? Bryzgalov?
- youarewrong

Yak and their first pick and a top D propect I read on the last thread

Doesn't make any sense at all

Trading PK Subban for McKinnon made more sense and that one was crazy too

He looked like perfect compliment to Benn and Seguin, and for him to keep up with those two at age 18 is pretty good.

I agree with Bill, that line reminded me of the Legion of Doom.
- Marc D

More like the Legion of Zoom.

You have to admit a 2 min, a 5 min major, a 10 min, and a game penalty is pretty impressive with only 4 seconds on the ice. The only way to get more would be to come out with a machine gun...



- FlyersGrace

It vaguely reminded me of Carcillo's premature one hit knock out rocket punch against the Caps in 2009. It's probably just the eternity of penalty killing that followed, though.

If Rinaldo never played another game for the Flyers it would be fine with me.

The guy cannot be trusted. He's stupid waiting to happen. I can't stand players like that.

Blaming Rosehill for Zac losing his composure seems to be stretching it.
- Marc D

I'm not talking about one game... I'm looking at all season, comparing the games Rosehill is in, and when he isn't it. Say what you want, but it seems to be true. The games Rinaldo loses his cool the most is when Jay is in the lineup. Jay's idiocy seems to rub off on him even more...

What did you think of the Emery fight? I thought that was WAY worse, since Rinaldo didnt even land any punches, and gave the other guy time to drop his gloves.
- youarewrong

Personally, I liked the Emery fight. Razor was totally the bad guy and totally an bumhole, but whatever. The team's frustrations boiled over. With Rinaldo, my issue is that he's undone what progress he made last season. He's taking penalties, not drawing them. He's a negative on this team right now, and what he did yesterday was just plain stupid. No team frustrations had emerged in that seventy-five second span, he was just being an inexplicable poopheel.

He, above all others, needs accountability.

Yak and their first pick and a top D propect I read on the last thread

Doesn't make any sense at all

Trading PK Subban for McKinnon made more sense and that one was crazy too
- Marc D

Forget driving Couts to the Airport. I would drive his ass the whole way to Edmonton, with the windows down!

I would play him. He is a starter. I have no idea what happened between those 2 to cause that reaction. Maybe something in pregame, maybe Rinaldo thought once he dropped the other guy would too. Maybe he saw the team was flat and was trying to do something to get them pumped. Only Rinaldo really knows what happened. If Cheif heard the reason and plays him, thats all I need to know.
- youarewrong

Thanks
I don't know what he said but Zac needs to be smarter.
As for them being flat it was literally the second shift of the game.

If Rinaldo never played another game for the Flyers it would be fine with me.

The guy cannot be trusted. He's stupid waiting to happen. I can't stand players like that.
- Scoob

I'm with you. Rinaldo becoming a PK player is a farce. When you are a fringe NHL player at best, you can't afford to be a liability when it comes to discipline.

Thanks
I don't know what he said but Zac needs to be smarter.
As for them being flat it was literally the second shift of the game.
- Marc D

I missed the game and just watched the replay. What the (frank) was Rinaldo thinking?

I'm not talking about one game... I'm looking at all season, comparing the games Rosehill is in, and when he isn't it. Say what you want, but it seems to be true. The games Rinaldo loses his cool the most is when Jay is in the lineup. Jay's idiocy seems to rub off on him even more...
- WarriorHockey21

Maybe there is correlation, I believe you about that.
What I was trying to say is Zac needs to be responsible for himself, even if he is getting the wrong kind of encouragement from his teammate.

Personally, I liked the Emery fight. Razor was totally the bad guy and totally an bumhole, but whatever. The team's frustrations boiled over. With Rinaldo, my issue is that he's undone what progress he made last season. He's taking penalties, not drawing them. He's a negative on this team right now, and what he did yesterday was just plain stupid. No team frustrations had emerged in that seventy-five second span, he was just being an inexplicable poopheel.

He, above all others, needs accountability.
- BulliesPhan87

I'm not going to pass judgement. Who knows if Rousell shot a puck at Giroux in practice, or if he told Rinaldo that he was going with him first shift. I dont know if after 2 days of not skating if the team was half a sleep and Rinaldo tried to wake them up... I just dont know. The result was bad, but I'm not condeming his actions while people praise what Emery did... which IMO was 10 times worse.

Apparently McGinn is in Ottawa.

There are enough undisciplined guys on this team. No need for Rinaldo. Rosehill hasn't been completely undisciplined, but he's useless.

Without Lecavalier for the next month at least, I see a whole lot of games in the immediate future where this team struggles to pot two goals.
- PLindbergh31

Glad to hear McGinn's getting the call. Agreed on everything else. I don't like having an enforcer still, but he's inoffensive (unlike Rinaldo, who was a flashbang of concentrated stupid yesterday).

What did you think of the Emery fight? I thought that was WAY worse, since Rinaldo didnt even land any punches, and gave the other guy time to drop his gloves.
- youarewrong

That's just because the other guy ducked a Rinaldo haymaker.

I was hoping getting promoted to the second PK unit would encourage him to take less penalties since he can't kill them from the box.

McGinn recalled to replace Vinny

I'm not going to pass judgement. Who knows if Rousell shot a puck at Giroux in practice, or if he told Rinaldo that he was going with him first shift. I dont know if after 2 days of not skating if the team was half a sleep and Rinaldo tried to wake them up... I just dont know. The result was bad, but I'm not condeming his actions while people praise what Emery did... which IMO was 10 times worse.
- youarewrong

I am going to pass judgement. That's not the time or method to "wake your team up". It was straight up terrible. I sincerely doubt we'll agree on this.

I missed the game and just watched the replay. What the (frank) was Rinaldo thinking?
- PhillySportsGuy

He wasn't thinking
He was a giant ball of adrenaline

The problem with Rinaldo, and to a lesser extent, Rosehill, is that they don't get held to the same standard of accountability others do.

Rinaldo has drawn just one penalty this season, he's committed several really dumb ones and they give him more responsibility, by adding him to the PK. Meanwhile, Meszaros takes a dumb penalty late in a game and he gets benched for three weeks.

Thanks
I don't know what he said but Zac needs to be smarter.
As for them being flat it was literally the second shift of the game.
- Marc D

Well I'm not a psyhcic or anything, but he might have been able to tell by the warm up, in the locker-room. 2 days off the ice, and no crowd to play in front of... I think he went out on a limb and it broke. If Rousel drops the gloves and Rinaldo wins... COuld have been a different game... Who knows.

He wasn't thinking
He was a giant ball of adrenaline
- Marc D

I'm sure Roussell was talking poop before the game and told him he would fight Zac the second they were on the ice together, but that was such a dumb move.

Glad to hear McGinn's getting the call. Agreed on everything else. I don't like having an enforcer still, but he's inoffensive (unlike Rinaldo, who was a flashbang of concentrated stupid yesterday).
- BulliesPhan87

I understand the top line has to be better, and the defense core is a virtual horror show on a nightly basis.

For the life of me I don't understand dressing 2 guys in Rosehill and Rinaldo who literally have zero chance of scoring. The Flyers can't score goals. Having these guys in the lineup every game is idiotic.

McGinn recalled to replace Vinny
- nastyflyergirl

Good move.
Hopefully Raffl stays on as a 4th line and PK guy too.

Glad to hear McGinn's getting the call. Agreed on everything else. I don't like having an enforcer still, but he's inoffensive (unlike Rinaldo, who was a flashbang of concentrated stupid yesterday).
- BulliesPhan87

I love this phrase. Soooo going to have to steal it!