Howdy Ogi. Hope you are, like me, enjoying all the crying from Packer fans amongst family and friends.
- Elbows15

Well, I'm hanging out in Philcoland right now, so there's not too many crying Pecker fans around. But I look forward to the whining when I get back stateside.

'61 Hawks had talent: should have won a couple.

''69 Cubs had talent: should have won a couple (excellent pitching, excellent balance).

Even after blowing the NLCS in 1984, the Cubs had the best pitching in the league going into 1985: Eckersley, Trout, Sutcliffe, Sanderson, Ruthven. Every one got hurt in 1985.

It's hard to put together a good string - the margin of error - even for the best teams - is so narrow that it doesn't take much to throw it all off track.
- StLBravesFan

How the Cub team of that era didn't win anything is baffling. In 61 I still thought poopting on myself was fun.

No, it's a king sized Snickers. I've already lost one to him.

Anyways, it's a suspendable offense on Hockeybuzz to bet money.
- EKolb13

Which would be a problem if we had any mods.

Which would be a problem if we had any mods.
- Elbows15

Or if we had any money.

Which would be a problem if we had any mods.
- Elbows15

I'm sure Micah555 is lurking somewhere....he always is

I'm sure Micah555 is lurking somewhere....he always is
- Ogilthorpe2

Indeed.

Or if we had any money.
- StLBravesFan

I'm married and a full time college student. I've got two valid reasons to be broke.

Or if we had any money.
- StLBravesFan

Have you seen the price of candy bars? You about need a loan for one these days.

I'm sure Micah555 is lurking somewhere....he always is
- Ogilthorpe2

Meh. I chat at 2 of the Leaf mods occasionally.

Canadian daytime TV =

Fixed.
- Ogilthorpe2

He would have been the genius if Halas listened to him about hiring Ditka. Anyway, Finks wasn't with the Bears for the 83 draft. Buddy came up with the 46 which worked until teams decided to use wide receivers. Lol


Sorry back to hockey.

8x8. If that isn't enough for the boys. Send their asses to Buffalo and Winnipeg for nothing but picks. A lot of picks. They were paid a lot of money at a very young age. If that doesn't earn you some loyalty, (frank) em. Send them to hockey hell.
- Elbows15

A job isn't about loyalty.

It is about having a high level of production and as a free individual maximizing (and balancing convenience if that is your prerogative) compensation.

It is a silly notion to think they are immoral for wanting market value. Now maybe they like the city and enjoy the organization and are willing to count those as benefits that negate more dollars but that is THEIR personal decision and I don't think you or I are in a position to pass judgment on that.

It is presumptions and arrogant to make that statement.

I'm married and a full time college student. I've got two valid reasons to be broke.
- EKolb13

I have 2 too. One a full time college student. The other is involved in way too many activities. When they said life is a circle, I didn't think it meant I would constantly drive in one.

Canadian daytime TV =
- Ogilthorpe2

You mean Esplen doesn't have his own Canucks TV talk show that resembles a Jerry Springer-esque plot?

A job isn't about loyalty.

It is about having a high level of production and as a free individual maximizing (and balancing convenience if that is your prerogative) compensation.

It is a silly notion to think they are immoral for wanting market value. Now maybe they like the city and enjoy the organization and are willing to count those as benefits that negate more dollars but that is THEIR personal decision and I don't think you or I are in a position to pass judgment on that.

It is presumptions and arrogant to make that statement.
- fattybeef

Thanks for your opinion. I will give it a lot of thought next time I am sitting on the throne.

You mean Esplen doesn't have his own Canucks TV talk show that resembles a Jerry Springer-esque plot?


- EKolb13

He does. Unfortunately, it is based on the Kramer model.

He would have been the genius if Halas listened to him about hiring Ditka. Anyway, Finks wasn't with the Bears for the 83 draft. Buddy came up with the 46 which worked until teams decided to use wide receivers. Lol


Sorry back to hockey.
- faustus1500

"Then, in 1983, in his swan song to the Bears, Finks drafted seven men who would key the 1985 title run: offensive left tackle Jimbo Covert and wide receiver Willie Gault in the first round, cornerback Mike Richardson in round two, strong safety Dave Duerson in round three, guard Tom Thayer in the fourth round, and two incredible steals in the eighth round, pass rusher and Super Bowl XX MVP Richard Dent and left guard Mark Bortz.

As soon as Finks signed his draftees, he turned in his resignation to Halas."

A job isn't about loyalty.

It is about having a high level of production and as a free individual maximizing (and balancing convenience if that is your prerogative) compensation.

It is a silly notion to think they are immoral for wanting market value. Now maybe they like the city and enjoy the organization and are willing to count those as benefits that negate more dollars but that is THEIR personal decision and I don't think you or I are in a position to pass judgment on that.

It is presumptions and arrogant to make that statement.
- fattybeef

Isn't enjoying the organization and job loyalty kind of one in the same?

"Then, in 1983, in his swan song to the Bears, Finks drafted seven men who would key the 1985 title run: offensive left tackle Jimbo Covert and wide receiver Willie Gault in the first round, cornerback Mike Richardson in round two, strong safety Dave Duerson in round three, guard Tom Thayer in the fourth round, and two incredible steals in the eighth round, pass rusher and Super Bowl XX MVP Richard Dent and left guard Mark Bortz.

As soon as Finks signed his draftees, he turned in his resignation to Halas."
- Ogilthorpe2

Now, that is a draft. Bortz was drafted as a defensive tackle. The great Richard Stanfel made him into an offensive lineman.

Howdy Ogi. Hope you are, like me, enjoying all the crying from Packer fans amongst family and friends.
- Elbows15

This is something I miss very much, even though it hasn't happened very much in the Cutler-era.

Isn't enjoying the organization and job loyalty kind of one in the same?
- EKolb13

So, you are kind of saying my response was a bit harsh?

Not really. There's a possibility that it could happen before the 4 year mark.

However, I'll take that Snickers action betting that it won't hit the $80 million mark by the summer of 2015.
- EKolb13

I will take that action.

You mean Esplen doesn't have his own Canucks TV talk show that resembles a Jerry Springer-esque plot?


- EKolb13

No, but the big news here today is the Mayor's admission that he smoked crack...so it does kinda feel Springer-esque.

This is something I miss very much, even though it hasn't happened very much in the Cutler-era.
- prd797

No kidding. Really hasn't happened much in the Favre and Rogers era. Still sweet. "We would have won if Rogers didn't get hurt". Of course, fully forgetting that the Bears are missing their starting QB.

Thanks for your opinion. I will give it a lot of thought next time I am sitting on the throne.
- Elbows15

Porcelain?