rollpards19
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Location: Where ever doesn't get me hit, IL Joined: 05.03.2012
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Leddy passing to no one. That's laughable. He's created more offensive zone opportunities than the rest of the D put together. Can't help guys not getting in position to receive a pass/take a shot, at least when he does that he's gotten the puck deep in the zone and typically helps in puck possession.
Yes, Hossa did not move either. Not giving him a free pass either but Keith has to move the puck, then move himself. Was almost like a game of chicken between the 2.
Don't read into my comments re Keith on the PP as I never said Hawks would be better off without Keith. My irritation at the moment is Keith on the PP. My own preference would be Leddy and Seabrook both on their off-wing (as they so often do, they move, shifting from side-to-side).
And as you aptly point out, Kane is the focus of the PP -- even more reason to remove Keith from that "role" which he cannot play. Seldom hits the net and appears frozen like a deer in the headlights, same as when he brings the puck out of the zone. No idea of what to do with the puck and that indecision is what usually costs the Hawks on zone entry. Seabrook has much the same MO, the only difference is he usually is smart enough to let Leddy bring the puck out of the zone.
The slow, indecisiveness of Duncan Keith on PP is what chaps my ass. - savvyone-1
None of the bolded is even close to factually true. Keith and Seabrook create WAY more offense 5v5 than Leddy, (and Keith creates more shot attempts 5v4) it's not particularly close. If you include quality of competition, Hammer and Johnny O are better too. |
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StLBravesFan
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Heard my one of my childhood Little League coaches got interviewed at his retirement home and passed up on the opportunity...That's probably why they've turned to Kompon. - prd797
Can the little league coach improve the power play? |
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Al
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None of the bolded is even close to factually true. Keith and Seabrook create WAY more offense 5v5 than Leddy, (and Keith creates more shot attempts 5v4) it's not particularly close. If you include quality of competition, Hammer and Johnny O are better too. - rollpards19
The issue with Keith and why he gets too much power play time is because his shooting % is miniscule.
Calgary surprises Hawks 3-2. Goalie Reto Berra was vg but Flames caught the Hawks at the right time. My Fox Chicago: http://bit.ly/Hwurcf |
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StLBravesFan
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The issue with Keith and why he gets too much power play time is because his shooting % is miniscule.
Calgary surprises Hawks 3-2. Goalie Reto Berra was vg but Flames caught the Hawks at the right time. My Fox Chicago:http://bit.ly/Hwurcf - Al
And that % is only on shots that reach the goalie - his % of missed and block shots to total shots taken must be outrageous. |
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StLBravesFan
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Ducks 2, Rangers 0 at MSG.
Can any Eastern team beat a Western team - even at home? |
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NewToHockey
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Location: IL Joined: 02.23.2010
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isn't that Mayers behind Rocky?? - Glenman12
Sure looks like it. Did any of the other members that have moved on show up like Sopel did in 2010? |
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Glenman12
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Location: Lake County, IL Joined: 01.13.2010
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Sure looks like it. Did any of the other members that have moved on show up like Sopel did in 2010? - NewToHockey
the only other one I saw was Emery... |
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TrueGrit
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Location: FL Joined: 07.19.2011
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There's some down right horrible logic in this argument. One, the carrot juice analogy is preposterous. You don't think the coach of a team has anything to do with its success? You're flat out wrong. Two, not winning every year isn't serviceable grounds to dismiss someone's point. Nobody is saying Q is perfect, but he appears to be getting better results than any of his competition, so maybe being that good is really, really hard. You say Toews and Kane should have been together for the finals, but then you preach line consistency, even though those two didn't play together for 50 games, so which is it? - rollpards19
1. You and others use the converse corollary that because Q has 2 cups he is infallible. That is the rule, except when it does not work.
2. He is able to get better results more because of the raw talent he has than squeezing blood from turnips. Lets be real.
3. For like the 50th time I will break this down reeaaallll ssssllllloooowwww for you. He changed Toews and Kane, which was hot, which was working, because he wanted to split them up because of Charra. Again premptive move. I hope you are able to understand and acknowledge that on its face.
Before the puck drops in game 1 of the finals. After Toews and Kane dominate the Kings, Q makes his big move. Only to have it fall on its face and go back to what worked to get the job done. If that is genius, then we have very low hurdles for genius.
Don't get me wrong, I will not fault him for strategizing etc...that is his job, but as has proven my point many times over, he often out smarts himself and returns to the status qou. |
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TrueGrit
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And that % is only on shots that reach the goalie - his % of missed and block shots to total shots taken must be outrageous. - StLBravesFan
Keith gets calls to his agent all the time to promote shin guard companies. He works in a lab testing them.
I have been trying to make my avatar a pair of shin guards, but can't size it and handle the technological issue. |
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StLBravesFan
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Keith gets calls to his agent all the time to promote shin guard companies. He works in a lab testing them.
I have been trying to make my avatar a pair of shin guards, but can't size it and handle the technological issue. - TrueGrit
Doesn't need a lab: he tests them on the ice, during power plays. |
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prd797
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Location: Scotland Joined: 06.17.2012
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the only other one I saw was Emery... - Glenman12
It made sense to me that Emery, considering he left to pursue a starting job, was there while Bolland (recently injured), Stalberg and Frolik were not. |
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prd797
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Location: Scotland Joined: 06.17.2012
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Can the little league coach improve the power play? - StLBravesFan
Depends on how efficiently the point men can play catch. He'd help improve Crow's glove hand though. |
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Topshelf2010
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Location: IL Joined: 09.29.2011
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1. You and others use the converse corollary that because Q has 2 cups he is infallible. That is the rule, except when it does not work.
2. He is able to get better results more because of the raw talent he has than squeezing blood from turnips. Lets be real.
3. For like the 50th time I will break this down reeaaallll ssssllllloooowwww for you. He changed Toews and Kane, which was hot, which was working, because he wanted to split them up because of Charra. Again premptive move. I hope you are able to understand and acknowledge that on its face.
Before the puck drops in game 1 of the finals. After Toews and Kane dominate the Kings, Q makes his big move. Only to have it fall on its face and go back to what worked to get the job done. If that is genius, then we have very low hurdles for genius.
Don't get me wrong, I will not fault him for strategizing etc...that is his job, but as has proven my point many times over, he often out smarts himself and returns to the status qou. - TrueGrit
TG - i am not a huge fan of Q, but not sure who would be better to coach the Hawks. The Hawks need to be a team and roll 4 lines, teamates bail each other out. Hawks were kind of lucky last year. The pp was horrendous but the pk was incredible. Crawford was solid and no major injuries for the Hawks. Kane was also double shifted alot last year. In the playoffs, the Hawks played a weakend Minnesota and LA team, and a good Boston team, but Bergeron, horton and Campbell were not all there we needed. The Hawks definitely outclassed Detroit and Detroit almost pulled out the upset (babcock outcoaching Q again) until the team pulled it together (which includes the coach). I still can't believe we lost to Phoenix the year before, but Hawks were unlucky and did not get the calls. Plus the special teams were horrendous during the year and still stunk in the playoffs. If coaching has any impact, it is on special teams and faceoffs - yikes. With Q's conservative scheme of keeping it close, luck might be a factor in the turnout of the game. One bad call or bad bounce or one questionable hit - game over.
Look at Hartley last game, Calgary played the Hawks tough without their number 1 dman and a new goalie. HOw many Olympians on that team?
Look at Anaheim, they are beating the Rangers with like 5 starters out. |
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TrueGrit
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Location: FL Joined: 07.19.2011
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TG - i am not a huge fan of Q, but not sure who would be better to coach the Hawks. The Hawks need to be a team and roll 4 lines, teamates bail each other out. Hawks were kind of lucky last year. The pp was horrendous but the pk was incredible. Crawford was solid and no major injuries for the Hawks. Kane was also double shifted alot last year. In the playoffs, the Hawks played a weakend Minnesota and LA team, and a good Boston team, but Bergeron, horton and Campbell were not all there we needed. The Hawks definitely outclassed Detroit and Detroit almost pulled out the upset (babcock outcoaching Q again) until the team pulled it together (which includes the coach). I still can't believe we lost to Phoenix the year before, but Hawks were unlucky and did not get the calls. Plus the special teams were horrendous during the year and still stunk in the playoffs. If coaching has any impact, it is on special teams and faceoffs - yikes. With Q's conservative scheme of keeping it close, luck might be a factor in the turnout of the game. One bad call or bad bounce or one questionable hit - game over.
Look at Hartley last game, Calgary played the Hawks tough without their number 1 dman and a new goalie. HOw many Olympians on that team?
Look at Anaheim, they are beating the Rangers with like 5 starters out. - Topshelf2010
Again, I have never called for him to be fired. Or said someone else would be better. Just point out the overcoaching. And that he often spins the riddles that he gets credit for getting out of. Luck is a huge factor in all of it. You just work hard to put yourself ina position to benefit from it. IE, make the playoffs. |
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TrueGrit
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tomcat24
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Ducks 2, Rangers 0 at MSG.
Can any Eastern team beat a Western team - even at home? - StLBravesFan
No kidding. People make a big deal about the streak last year and not playing the East. Maybe if we did the streak could have been over 40 games without a regulation loss instead of 24 |
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TrueGrit
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No kidding. People make a big deal about the streak last year and not playing the East. Maybe if we did the streak could have been over 40 games without a regulation loss instead of 24 - tomcat24
That is funny. Nice... |
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UnnamedSource
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Location: Local Mall, IL Joined: 01.03.2012
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Didn't I say he had a bad playoff last spring? My goodness.
You hate Leddy. I get it. What I will leave you with is do you honestly think Leddy is a bottom pair guy on 90% of the teams in the league? The answer is No.
Oduya has grown on me....but Leddy is destined to be in that role next year. Yes, the cap hell part deux is coming unless the wonder twins take a hometown discount. Which the NHLPA will not allow.
God willing Bowman has those deals completed before training camp. - SteveRain
You've mentioned this in the past...I don't know where you are getting this from.....it will be nowhere near what 2010 was...not even close. |
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StLBravesFan
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Someone is going to have to explain that Dewar's Scotch commercial to me. |
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UnnamedSource
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mohel
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You've mentioned this in the past...I don't know where you are getting this from.....it will be nowhere near what 2010 was...not even close. - UnnamedSource
He might be assuming a very small rise in the cap over the next couple years, which combined with signing Toews and Kane could cause things to get tight. Most think the cap will go up pretty quickly, including most GM's (as judging by their actions). I don't think there will be serious cap issues in the near term or the mid-term. |
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tomcat24
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That is funny. Nice... - TrueGrit
and true unfortunately. Detroit will ruin it though tonight. Tied with Winnipeg now but will end up winning. Seems the jets and oilers are only teams to lose to the east. And THE HAWKS |
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prd797
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Location: Scotland Joined: 06.17.2012
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Someone is going to have to explain that Dewar's Scotch commercial to me. - StLBravesFan
They've always had...interesting adverts.
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TrueGrit
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ArlingtonRob
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Location: 230 years was a good run, IL Joined: 01.20.2012
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Here is another observation. As many bend over backward and race to qualify CC as a good, not elite goalie, claiming all this protection he gets....( ) Yet, we here of the all world Henrik Lundquist, who, now after Torts is gone and all the shot blocking scheme dissappears, now Henrik is human....
Just saying...Every player, every position is a function of their situation and surrounding talent. - TrueGrit
C'mon Grit, everyone knows King Henrik is the "greatest goalie in the world"...at least that's what all the "experts" tell us...
...yet the guy hasn't come close to a cup.
And I've heard it said that Carey Price is "elite", yet he hasn't won diddly and was giving up 7 a game late last year.
There's a long list of fine goalies that haven't won squat, yet CC doesn't enter into the conversation and he has a cup...
...go figure. |
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