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SMS4016
Joined: 01.27.2011

Oct 7 @ 7:57 AM ET
Not to be a negative nelly but, just why is g being paid 8 mil? When I hear 8 mil I think Crosby Malkin stamkos ovechkin. When I hear 5 to 6 mil I think of g.
GOA88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 08.02.2013

Oct 7 @ 8:16 AM ET
Instead of all you guys bashing individual player performances, I really think you should look at the team as a whole. They lack consistency. Even Giroux looks like a ghost. Last time I checked there isnt one single player in this league that can make plays without the help of the 4 other guys on the ice to either set up in good position, make a nice pass, get in the dirty area. This team has no puck support and it looks like they are all skating in sand. No way is every single player on this team that bad. Vinny, Voracek, Giroux, Simmonds, Hartnell, are all studs. So whats the deal? No teamwork, cohesiveness at this point. I really think that Laviolette is gone, his fault or not.
GOA88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 08.02.2013

Oct 7 @ 8:18 AM ET
Not to be a negative nelly but, just why is g being paid 8 mil? When I hear 8 mil I think Crosby Malkin stamkos ovechkin. When I hear 5 to 6 mil I think of g.
- SMS4016

Before you start bashing Giroux, none of those players you listed above would have made a difference on the flyers so far this season.
SMS4016
Joined: 01.27.2011

Oct 7 @ 8:21 AM ET
Instead of all you guys bashing individual player performances, I really think you should look at the team as a whole. They lack consistency. Even Giroux looks like a ghost. Last time I checked there isnt one single player in this league that can make plays without the help of the 4 other guys on the ice to either set up in good position, make a nice pass, get in the dirty area. This team has no puck support and it looks like they are all skating in sand. No way is every single player on this team that bad. Vinny, Voracek, Giroux, Simmonds, Hartnell, are all studs. So whats the deal? No teamwork, cohesiveness at this point. I really think that Laviolette is gone, his fault or not.
- GOA88

I agree with all of this except certain players like Crosby malkin stamkos ov and a few others do indeed make huge plays on their own and almost nightly. These are the elite. I just dont see g as that type. Not yet anyway. I truly hope he reaches that status but mes thinking it's going to s stretch for him to reach it
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Oct 7 @ 8:26 AM ET
Not to be a negative nelly but, just why is g being paid 8 mil? When I hear 8 mil I think Crosby Malkin stamkos ovechkin. When I hear 5 to 6 mil I think of g.
- SMS4016


Because the new CBA outlaws the type of contract that saw guys like Giroux sign for ten years with the salary back diving to make the cap hit better.
SMS4016
Joined: 01.27.2011

Oct 7 @ 8:31 AM ET
I think peoples expectations are too high for this team as a whole and on personal levels also. My main interest is to see both schenns, simmer, coots, Mason, g, checky, read continue to improve and develop. That's the core. Any extras like playoffs or whatnot is a bonus. We aren't winning cup anytime soon. Now if improvements aren't made I hope it's not because of pressure to mSke playoffs and cup run from management. Admit we are rebuilding and donT do anything sTupid like trade core players to try to make playoffs. I'm not saying accept losing or anything like that but be realistic and stay the course. Maybe lavi isn't the teaching coach and shoulD be replaced. But keep big picture in mind. Still think this team is going to be deadly in a few years as long as they are patient
SMS4016
Joined: 01.27.2011

Oct 7 @ 8:36 AM ET
Because the new CBA outlaws the type of contract that saw guys like Giroux sign for ten years with the salary back diving to make the cap hit better.
- Jsaquella

Yeah I get that but g would have been restricted at end of last contract I believe. No need to jump to 8 mil deal. No one else is getting that deal really. And they shouldn't unless they are the elite. I just don't see g as elite. Not yet anyways And I don't think he will ever be. I hope I'm wrong but they could have done another bridge deal. Not that it would have saved them a whole lot but maybe Im just wishing g played up to the standard of that cOntract is all I guEss
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Oct 7 @ 8:39 AM ET
Yeah I get that but g would have been restricted at end of last contract I believe. No need to jump to 8 mil deal. No one else is getting that deal really. And they shouldn't unless they are the elite. I just don't see g as elite. Not yet anyways And I don't think he will ever be. I hope I'm wrong but they could have done another bridge deal. Not that it would have saved them a whole lot but maybe Im just wishing g played up to the standard of that cOntract is all I guEss
- SMS4016

Its been three games and he is coming off of hand surgery.. Ill give him a bigger time period before calling for his head. Laviolette on the other hand...
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Oct 7 @ 8:49 AM ET
Yeah I get that but g would have been restricted at end of last contract I believe. No need to jump to 8 mil deal. No one else is getting that deal really. And they shouldn't unless they are the elite. I just don't see g as elite. Not yet anyways And I don't think he will ever be. I hope I'm wrong but they could have done another bridge deal. Not that it would have saved them a whole lot but maybe Im just wishing g played up to the standard of that cOntract is all I guEss
- SMS4016


Since the new CBA has been completed, there have been 5 or 6 guys who have signed new deal with $8mm+ cap hits. Giroux, Perry, Getzlaf, Kessel, Malkin.

I don't have much doubt that Giroux will rebound. He's generally been a slow starter and he's also coming off an injury.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Oct 11 @ 7:26 PM ET
Great hustle by Hall....but alas no hands
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