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Chris48
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gatineau
Joined: 10.21.2011

Oct 6 @ 6:51 PM ET
What do you mean exactly
- Chris48


I understand being responsible and not taking bad penalties and following instructions and the team system. But if the system is not the appropriate one or not applied properly it's on Lavy.
Moose_15
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Rat Patrol, PA
Joined: 02.15.2013

Oct 6 @ 6:51 PM ET
Has anyone seen our captain?

My guess is missing most of training camp has created a few different issues for him.

- opeth_pa


Thankfully, we know he isn't hitting the links.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Oct 6 @ 6:52 PM ET
The Orange and Black are gonna win this game.

Watch.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Oct 6 @ 6:52 PM ET
What do you mean exactly
- Chris48


No running around, no overaggressive forecheck that gets burned by a simple outlet pass, better gap control and puck support in the transition game, fewer defensive breakdowns and half-assed clearing attempts, fewer dumb penalties.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Oct 6 @ 6:53 PM ET
The Orange and Black are gonna win this game.

Watch.

- Giroux_Is_God


It will be a good first step if they do, but honestly the big issues still remain. So far this game has been grandma's ass ugly.
Phifly10
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wallingford, PA
Joined: 11.26.2010

Oct 6 @ 6:53 PM ET
The Orange and Black are gonna win this game.

Watch.

- Giroux_Is_God


Moose_15
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Rat Patrol, PA
Joined: 02.15.2013

Oct 6 @ 6:54 PM ET
The Orange and Black are gonna win this game.

Watch.

- Giroux_Is_God


The Bengals game, right?
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Oct 6 @ 6:54 PM ET
No running around, no overaggressive forecheck that gets burned by a simple outlet pass, better gap control and puck support in the transition game, fewer defensive breakdowns and half-assed clearing attempts, fewer dumb penalties.
- Jsaquella



what, you mean you don't think its effective for 2 guys to hit the dman behind the net who has already passed the puck up to the forward who has now sprung an odd man break? maddening
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Oct 6 @ 6:54 PM ET
It will be a good first step if they do, but honestly the big issues still remain. So far this game has been grandma's ass ugly.
- flyer_nutter

We're gonna see fire out of the gates this period. The even strength monkey is gone and they're gonna want more.

Chris48
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gatineau
Joined: 10.21.2011

Oct 6 @ 6:55 PM ET
No running around, no overaggressive forecheck that gets burned by a simple outlet pass, better gap control and puck support in the transition game, fewer defensive breakdowns and half-assed clearing attempts, fewer dumb penalties.
- Jsaquella



We have been seeing all the same issues and problems last year ..... What can the players do ....not follow the coaches instructions ?
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Oct 6 @ 6:55 PM ET
what, you mean you don't think its effective for 2 guys to hit the dman behind the net who has already passed the puck up to the forward who has now sprung an odd man break? maddening
- nastyflyergirl


The first few times, I though it was cool, but over the past three years it's gotten a little old.
Moose_15
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Rat Patrol, PA
Joined: 02.15.2013

Oct 6 @ 6:56 PM ET
We have been seeing all the same issues and problems last year ..... What can the players do ....not follow the coaches instructions ?
- Chris48


Mutiny.

or exile Laviolette to Elba or Dryisland
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Oct 6 @ 6:57 PM ET
The first few times, I though it was cool, but over the past three years it's gotten a little old.
- Jsaquella



its even cooler when the third forward is also below the dot and even cooler when he is below the goal line
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Oct 6 @ 6:57 PM ET
The Orange and Black are gonna win this game.

Watch.

- Giroux_Is_God


Please be correct.
Flyers1218
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 06.28.2007

Oct 6 @ 6:58 PM ET
The Orange and Black are gonna win this game.

Watch.

- Giroux_Is_God

Want to bet $100 on it?
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Oct 6 @ 6:58 PM ET
We have been seeing all the same issues and problems last year ..... What can the players do ....not follow the coaches instructions ?
- Chris48


I doubt the coach's instructions are to run around and make a blind clearing pass up the middle of the ice.

It's not all on the coach, as much as I've been in favor of him being fired. There's some blame on the players, too.
LJF
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Jersey Baby Jersey
Joined: 04.17.2009

Oct 6 @ 6:58 PM ET
The Orange and Black are gonna win this game.

Watch.

- Giroux_Is_God



I'm counting on it.

B. Schenn needs to get better, quickly.
Chris48
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gatineau
Joined: 10.21.2011

Oct 6 @ 6:59 PM ET
The first few times, I though it was cool, but over the past three years it's gotten a little old.
- Jsaquella



The worst thing that makes me absolutely crazy is nothing is corrected or adjusted.
If the forecheck in Lavy's system is not applied properly by the players, it's his freaking job to correct it. Or if they apply it correctly in Lavy's eyes, it's on him also.


2 seasons with the exact same BS ..... it's time for a change and in 10 games that change is coming
LJF
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Jersey Baby Jersey
Joined: 04.17.2009

Oct 6 @ 6:59 PM ET
I doubt the coach's instructions are to run around and make a blind clearing pass up the middle of the ice.

It's not all on the coach, as much as I've been in favor of him being fired. There's some blame on the players, too.

- Jsaquella


Yes, but why is it that keep making those type of mistakes
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Oct 6 @ 6:59 PM ET
Want to bet $100 on it?
- Flyers1218

yes






............but fake, symbolic $100
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Oct 6 @ 7:00 PM ET
I doubt the coach's instructions are to run around and make a blind clearing pass up the middle of the ice.

It's not all on the coach, as much as I've been in favor of him being fired. There's some blame on the players, too.

- Jsaquella



well it is the coach who wants them to be aggressive on the puck. Granted the players need to be smarter and more discipline at times
Flyers1218
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 06.28.2007

Oct 6 @ 7:00 PM ET
I doubt the coach's instructions are to run around and make a blind clearing pass up the middle of the ice.

It's not all on the coach, as much as I've been in favor of him being fired. There's some blame on the players, too.

- Jsaquella

There's as much blame, if not more, on the players then the coach. But you can't fire the whole team. Coach is going to get the axe.
Flyers1218
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 06.28.2007

Oct 6 @ 7:00 PM ET
yes






............but fake, symbolic $100

- Giroux_Is_God


lol, you're on.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Oct 6 @ 7:01 PM ET
Atta boy Rinaldo!
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Oct 6 @ 7:02 PM ET
well it is the coach who wants them to be aggressive on the puck. Granted the players need to be smarter and more discipline at times
- nastyflyergirl


Yeah, but they lose board battles and routinely get outworked. I doubt the coach is urging them to use a one armed poke check on the wall
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