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Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

Oct 6 @ 2:04 PM ET
I think the Flyers should maybe toss Simmonds on the top line with Giroux and Voracek. Simmonds showed some strong board work and hustle and I think his aggressive forecheck will help create space for Voracek and Giroux. Hartnell doesn't have the same jump/speed that Simmonds has showed IMO. Place Harts on the 2nd unit.
Flyersgod
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.07.2013

Oct 6 @ 2:05 PM ET
Seems to have worked for the Oilers so far. Not saying that strategy is wrong, but there is no guarantee in any strategy.
- feelingkettle


Oilers suck.
feelingkettle
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "No sir, I don't like it" Phil, PA
Joined: 11.13.2006

Oct 6 @ 2:13 PM ET
Oilers suck.
- Flyersgod

Flyersgod
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.07.2013

Oct 6 @ 2:18 PM ET

- feelingkettle

U were being sarcastic?
feelingkettle
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "No sir, I don't like it" Phil, PA
Joined: 11.13.2006

Oct 6 @ 2:25 PM ET
U were being sarcastic?
- Flyersgod

KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people
Joined: 01.10.2008

Oct 6 @ 2:32 PM ET
This place is a disgrace
Flyersgod
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.07.2013

Oct 6 @ 2:36 PM ET

- feelingkettle


Are we exclusive now?
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Oct 6 @ 2:42 PM ET
This place is a disgrace
- KINGKENZO

what are you mad about
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Oct 6 @ 2:45 PM ET
This place is a disgrace
- KINGKENZO


And the team's in last place
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Oct 6 @ 2:50 PM ET
Wow, and I thought the Eagles sucked!! The Giants take it to a whole new level!!
LJF
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Jersey Baby Jersey
Joined: 04.17.2009

Oct 6 @ 2:53 PM ET
This place is a disgrace
- KINGKENZO


please bring a ray of sunshine
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Oct 6 @ 2:53 PM ET
I think the Flyers should maybe toss Simmonds on the top line with Giroux and Voracek. Simmonds showed some strong board work and hustle and I think his aggressive forecheck will help create space for Voracek and Giroux. Hartnell doesn't have the same jump/speed that Simmonds has showed IMO. Place Harts on the 2nd unit.
- Pixote Andolini


Worth a shot
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Oct 6 @ 3:00 PM ET
Those three were terrible for years and got their elite talent through sucking for many years. Detroit and Boston can win cups without tanking. Every team needs elite talent, but sucking for years is not the only way to get it.
- feelingkettle


that's what drafting well does for you. even with Chicago. Look how well the built and re-built the team
SMS4016
Joined: 01.27.2011

Oct 6 @ 3:04 PM ET
I'm very curious bill as to why you continue to list rinaldo as a (maybe) on the 4th line in projected line-ups? Do you have inside info that says he may be a healthy scratch on any given night? From what I see this guy should definitely be in the lineup every night
Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

Oct 6 @ 3:10 PM ET
I'm very curious bill as to why you continue to list rinaldo as a (maybe) on the 4th line in projected line-ups? Do you have inside info that says he may be a healthy scratch on any given night? From what I see this guy should definitely be in the lineup every night
- SMS4016

He doesn't. Nobody's sure at this point who out of Newbury/Hall/Rosehill will be scratched. Rinaldo isn't part of that group apart from skating on the same line with whoever's left.
KGBflyers10
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 10.28.2007

Oct 6 @ 3:23 PM ET
I'm very curious bill as to why you continue to list rinaldo as a (maybe) on the 4th line in projected line-ups? Do you have inside info that says he may be a healthy scratch on any given night? From what I see this guy should definitely be in the lineup every night
- SMS4016


"Worst poster in the thread. Worst."
flyler
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: LA, CA
Joined: 05.23.2008

Oct 6 @ 3:25 PM ET
Maybe someone else brought this up. But why isn't Schenn on Vinnie's line? They seemed to work well together.

Also, they need a scoring line winger. I hate to say it, but maybe they should not have passed on Gagne.
steveromanowski
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 09.27.2013

Oct 6 @ 3:32 PM ET
Hartnell needs to show something, Giroux has to not be invisible, everyone needs to step it up. Seems like we have no speed up front, I know we have speedy forwards but they had no jump. The team needs to be a physical force, we have to many big players to be soft. I want to see Giroux to take the puck to the net more and just show me more, I haven't liked his play the first two games he is too good and needs to show it.
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Oct 6 @ 3:34 PM ET
Not once this season have I listed Rinaldo as a potential scratch. It was Hall/Laughton for opening night and Rosehill/Newbury in games two and three.

steveromanowski
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 09.27.2013

Oct 6 @ 3:36 PM ET
Outside the first round, the flyers are a horrible draft team. we need better scouts or something because first round its hard to have a bad pick but after that our draft picks have been nothing. its out of the blue I know, but we might need to stop trying to get the best free agent all the time and just build through our system but that might take a couple years but snider wont stand for that.
flyer186
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: niagara falls, ON
Joined: 02.05.2007

Oct 6 @ 3:37 PM ET
hey Bill in your humble opinion how short of a leash is the coach on... in other words how long do you think they will put up with the current situation
Chris48
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gatineau
Joined: 10.21.2011

Oct 6 @ 3:41 PM ET
Problem I see is we have no pure scorer. Everyone is a playmaker, Crash the net guy or Hartnell who is really not good for anything right now. we need a guy who can put pucks in the net!
- xShoot4WarAmpsx



THOMAS VANEK !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Oct 6 @ 3:44 PM ET
Maybe someone else brought this up. But why isn't Schenn on Vinnie's line? They seemed to work well together.

Also, they need a scoring line winger. I hate to say it, but maybe they should not have passed on Gagne.

- flyler


Except Gagne is not Gagne of 5 years ago and not what I would really consider a scoring line winger anymore.

We need Giroux to show up mad. The thing I think we have all seen with Giroux is that when he gets mad he takes over games , we need that tonight. He needs to be the captain.

We need to find a way to get Rinaldo in the lineup more. I think this speaks volume about what he has become. I never ever see him take a shift off and feel that if our skill players played that hard we would be in better shape.

We need to give our goalies a chance to keep us in games.

We need to find a new coach if tonight is a loss.
SMS4016
Joined: 01.27.2011

Oct 6 @ 3:45 PM ET
Not once this season have I listed Rinaldo as a potential scratch. It was Hall/Laughton for opening night and Rosehill/Newbury in games two and three.
- bmeltzer

Sorry, must have been reading it wrong. My fault
Flyers_01
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.03.2006

Oct 6 @ 3:45 PM ET
Outside the first round, the flyers are a horrible draft team. we need better scouts or something because first round its hard to have a bad pick but after that our draft picks have been nothing. its out of the blue I know, but we might need to stop trying to get the best free agent all the time and just build through our system but that might take a couple years but snider wont stand for that.
- steveromanowski

Maybe they should not spend high draft picks trying to draft the nexr zac rinaldo because that seems to be a big part oftheir drafting strategy
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