the rule is fine...just dont do it.
- senstroll

I'm not in any way saying it shouldn't be a suspension... but mandatory minimums is never good, in any context.

I'm not in any way saying it shouldn't be a suspension... but mandatory minimums is never good, in any context.
- Big_Lightnin

Its a deterrent. and not enough it seems since 2 people have done it.
if it was Orr we wouldnt care

I'm not in any way saying it shouldn't be a suspension... but mandatory minimums is never good, in any context.
- Big_Lightnin

Except for mis-spelling Colborne

I'm not in any way saying it shouldn't be a suspension... but mandatory minimums is never good, in any context.
- Big_Lightnin

What if he was knocked off the bench ?


Then got up and started fighting..

It's not entirely unlikely that they wait 8-10 games to move Liles. By then teams will have a better sense of what they need, and injuries could open up salary space and roster spots too. Calgary, Florida or Colorado seem to be a logical places for him to land considering they all need D and have lots of cap space. Liles for a 2nd or 3rd and then sign Franson.
- Jpop281

They may not have that luxury. Leafs may have to replace multiple players opening night, and to my knowledge McLaren is the only one who is likely to be LTIR, and even that's not a given.

Except for mis-spelling Colborne
- Canada Cup

FBS

People still spell his name properly?

Except for mis-spelling Colborne
- Canada Cup

and Rielly

Do not trade franson
- burn

yes that would be dumb

Its a deterrent. and not enough it seems since 2 people have done it.
if it was Orr we wouldnt care
- senstroll

Any suspension is a deterrent - no one in the NHL wants to get suspended for anything ever. They miss games, lose money, and it causes the coach and organization to lose faith in them. 2-3 game suspensions for being stupid enough to hop the boards are going to stop just as many guys as 10 games will. The problem is players who do things that are actually dangerous like take head shots only get 2-5 games usually, unless they are repeat offenders. To compare that to someone simply hopping over the boards and automatically getting 10 games regardless of what they do afterwards is not good. Every suspension should be handled individually and based on the severity of the actions, not just a generic blanket suspension for doing one certain thing that could have multiple outcomes.

ya and dregs mentioned if colborne isnt making the team theyre going to trade him to a team that he can play for in the NHL this season
- MetroidPrime

What team could he possibly make?

Its a deterrent. and not enough it seems since 2 people have done it.if it was Orr we wouldnt care
- senstroll

exactly.

Mandatory suspension doesn't work anyway, and handcuffs you in a situation that might have grey area.

yes that would be dumb
- Fakepartofme

Don't see how.

exactly.

Mandatory suspension doesn't work anyway, and handcuffs you in a situation that might have grey area.
- Big_Lightnin

Grey area? There is NO grey area. A player on the bench CANNOT jump on the ice to join a fight, it's pretty black and white.

What team could he possibly make?
- AdamFrench

Yotes, Habs..

Rule needs to be looked at.

Obviously, there's a reason for it, but Clarkson didn't even fight - never threw a single punch (that I could see anyway).

Should be some discretion there... I'm never a fan of mandatory suspensions because every situation is different.
- Big_Lightnin

He came off the bench...enough said. I like the rule.
No matter what the situation...stay on the bench.
Easy peasy.

Grey area? There is NO grey area. A player on the bench CANNOT jump on the ice to join a fight, it's pretty black and white.
- Symba007

what if he doesn't join the fight?

Yotes, Habs..
- bixll

Sorry the first round bust turned fourth liner is already taken up by Gilbert Brule at the moment.

exactly.

Mandatory suspension doesn't work anyway, and handcuffs you in a situation that might have grey area.
- Big_Lightnin

he left the bench during the fight

doesnt matter what his intentions were

he left the bench and joined the "altercation" (nhl rules doesnt say fight, it says altercation, so you dont actually have to fight)

thats a 10 game suspension. period. end of story.

its as clear as the icing rule.

what if he doesn't join the fight?
- Big_Lightnin

the NHL rules says nothing about fighting

it says "altercation" and he most certainly joined in that.

he left the bench during the fight

doesnt matter what his intentions were

he left the bench and joined the "altercation" (nhl rules doesnt say fight, it says altercation, so you dont actually have to fight)

thats a 10 game suspension. period. end of story.

its as clear as the icing rule.
- Dozzer

um...


Icing rule is now a subjective call by linesmen

I'm not in any way saying it shouldn't be a suspension... but mandatory minimums is never good, in any context.
- Big_Lightnin

in this case, given the NHL's motivation, yes, it's a good idea.
there's never a good enough reason to come off the bench. ever.

I thought Colborne was very very ordinary last night. Was not impressed at all.

But he will get his shot becaus of the waivers issue. Hopefully he can get it together.

Don't see how.
- UsernameUnknown

Well lets have a look.
He's a top 4 dman on 90% of the teams in the league.
The Leafs D are not that great right now.
The Leafs do not have a player that can replace everything Franson brings to the table. (please dont even suggest Rielly...hes just not ready)
You are not going to get much in return only because teams know the leafs are in a bind.

Hence...it would be dumb to trade him

the NHL rules says nothing about fighting

it says "altercation" and he most certainly joined in that.
- Dozzer

alright my bad.

and again, I know this looks like I'm whining cause Clarkson got suspended... but as I said earlier, I'm not a fan of mandatory suspension amounts for anything, because every situation is different.

just having the discussion.

My first reaction was 10 game suspension for Clarkson is better than Kessel out 2 months with a concussion. Wish he hadn't done it, but didn't mind it that much when it happened.

what if he doesn't join the fight?
- Big_Lightnin

then he just wasted his 10 game suspension