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keaner17
New York Islanders
Location: Prepared for the worst
Joined: 07.12.2007

Sep 25 @ 11:48 AM ET
I hope so but you're forgetting about the luxury boxes which more then makes up for the loss of seats
- Vukota

They could have had the luxury boxes and the seats....this is an NBA arena, plain and simple. While the boxes may be attractive to ownership they suck for the fans, not that it would matter to anyone but the fans themselves.

IMO the NHL would never have let a team leave NY no matter what the circumstances. The league NEEDS that exposure. They're praying for a second marketing machine to rise there. KC offered nothing in that way. They're already learning that places like Columbus are doing poorly. Just like the Jets and Mets, the potential is far too great to give the team away to a small-medium market.

$$keaner17$$
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Sep 25 @ 11:49 AM ET
They may? Do any of us really know the financial breakdown of it?
- Cptmjl



I would think luxury boxes is where they make a ton of money. Costs a couple of thousand a game to lease one of them out
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Sep 25 @ 11:51 AM ET
They could have had the luxury boxes and the seats....this is an NBA arena, plain and simple. While the boxes may be attractive to ownership they suck for the fans, not that it would matter to anyone but the fans themselves.

IMO the NHL would never have let a team leave NY no matter what the circumstances. The league NEEDS that exposure. They're praying for a second marketing machine to rise there. KC offered nothing in that way. They're already learning that places like Columbus are doing poorly. Just like the Jets and Mets, the potential is far too great to give the team away to a small-medium market.

$$keaner17$$

- keaner17



I don't think anybody is disputing that. Again probably not but it was no slam dunk they weren't leaving is all I'm saying. They are staying and that is all I care about
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Sep 25 @ 11:53 AM ET
All you can drink
- Vukota

Now I really hope this happens. You're going to need a lot of money in that piggy bank if this happens
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Sep 25 @ 11:54 AM ET
I would think luxury boxes is where they make a ton of money. Costs a couple of thousand a game to lease one of them out
- Vukota

It does but the actual breakdown of it is what I'm saying. The loss of seats and their revenue to actual revenue coming from the luxury boxes.
keaner17
New York Islanders
Location: Prepared for the worst
Joined: 07.12.2007

Sep 25 @ 11:55 AM ET
They may? Do any of us really know the financial breakdown of it?
- Cptmjl

I know the ones in Philly hold 14 seats. Seats are $180 ea. Of course there are 'luxury', 'Club' & 'balcony'. So that comes to just under $2k, of course then you add in catering etc....

Xxkeaner17xX

Edit: Just to add, the boxes are large enough that about 30 seats could have fit there so you figure the gains are more in the catering, things like that. I don't think the amount is stagering, but they tend to get rented pretty consistently.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Sep 25 @ 11:55 AM ET
I don't think anybody is disputing that. Again probably not but it was no slam dunk they weren't leaving is all I'm saying. They are staying and that is all I care about
- Vukota

Well that's something we can all agree on
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Sep 25 @ 11:56 AM ET
Now I really hope this happens. You're going to need a lot of money in that piggy bank if this happens
- Cptmjl


Funny thing is even with a new arena on the Island I think they make much more money in BK then if they stayed on the Island. For the fans on the Island the move sucks but for the franchise its a great move
Dan Petriw
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 12.03.2006

Sep 25 @ 11:58 AM ET
I would think luxury boxes is where they make a ton of money. Costs a couple of thousand a game to lease one of them out
- Vukota



depending on size they range from 1,500 to 7 grand a game at most arenas
mighty13duck
New York Islanders
Location: New Building. New Owner. New coach Nassau County, NY
Joined: 01.26.2009

Sep 25 @ 11:59 AM ET
depending on size they range from 1,500 to 7 grand a game at most arenas
- Dan Petriw

keaner17
New York Islanders
Location: Prepared for the worst
Joined: 07.12.2007

Sep 25 @ 12:02 PM ET
Funny thing is even with a new arena on the Island I think they make much more money in BK then if they stayed on the Island. For the fans on the Island the move sucks but for the franchise its a great move
- Vukota


Agreed, which I think is why Wang took the deal. I'm just curious to know the terms of the lease given the POTENTIAL revenue they are forgoing to lock up for 25 years. I've heard that the lease is with Ratner and NOT just Barclay center, meaning that if Ratner were to expand elsewhere, he could take Charles and the gang with him.

Xxkeaner17xX
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Sep 25 @ 12:06 PM ET
Agreed, which I think is why Wang took the deal. I'm just curious to know the terms of the lease given the POTENTIAL revenue they are forgoing to lock up for 25 years. I've heard that the lease is with Ratner and NOT just Barclay center, meaning that if Ratner were to expand elsewhere, he could take Charles and the gang with him.

Xxkeaner17xX

- keaner17



Interesting
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Sep 25 @ 12:09 PM ET
Interesting
- Vukota

LetsGoIsles
New York Islanders
Location: I'll wait till Halak signs elsewhere and then you can go eat a d!ck- JMO16
Joined: 01.26.2011

Sep 25 @ 12:10 PM ET
Did you see the arena layout?
- Cptmjl



yes
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Sep 25 @ 12:10 PM ET

- Cptmjl

You're ready to drink free all game aren't you?
Fan101
New York Islanders
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 07.08.2007

Sep 25 @ 12:13 PM ET
Considering how many games they draw under 10,000 at NVMC, I wouldn't be surprised if they add more than the 6 planned games to the New NVMC scheduled.

This is the age of cable TV, so 10,000 fans in a small arena still provides a loud "studio audience" for the cable broadcast. Also Wang will be providing games over the net as well, so both Brooklyn and Nassau will work out. For a playoff format they can also provide a venue at NVMC for a big screen cable feed audience from the Brooklyn game or a road game.
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Sep 25 @ 12:15 PM ET
Considering how many games they draw under 10,000 at NVMC, I wouldn't be surprised if they add more than the 6 planned games to the New NVMC scheduled.

This is the age of cable TV, so 10,000 fans in a small arena still provides a loud "studio audience" for the cable broadcast. Also Wang will be providing games over the net as well, so both Brooklyn and Nassau will work out. For a playoff format they can also provide a venue at NVMC for a big screen cable feed audience from the Brooklyn game or a road game.

- Fan101



That would actually be pretty cool
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Sep 25 @ 12:17 PM ET
You're ready to drink free all game aren't you?
- Vukota

Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Sep 25 @ 12:18 PM ET
That would actually be pretty cool
- Vukota

I'd rather just watch it in my living room
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Sep 25 @ 12:22 PM ET
I'd rather just watch it in my living room
- Cptmjl


yeah probably but it would be cool to also watch it with a couple of thousand freaks
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Sep 25 @ 12:32 PM ET
yeah probably but it would be cool to also watch it with a couple of thousand freaks
- Vukota

You're being kind...
mighty13duck
New York Islanders
Location: New Building. New Owner. New coach Nassau County, NY
Joined: 01.26.2009

Sep 25 @ 12:36 PM ET
You're being kind...
- Cptmjl

It s a good idea tbh. DP can serve everyone snacks and hot dogs.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Sep 25 @ 12:38 PM ET
It s a good idea tbh. DP can serve everyone snacks and hot dogs.
- mighty13duck

Well that settles it. I'm not taking food from some clown not wearing any socks.
mighty13duck
New York Islanders
Location: New Building. New Owner. New coach Nassau County, NY
Joined: 01.26.2009

Sep 25 @ 12:39 PM ET
Well that settles it. I'm not taking food from some clown not wearing any socks.
- Cptmjl

Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Sep 25 @ 12:45 PM ET

- mighty13duck

Remember the days when he was our starting goalie? Best thing this team has done in years next to drafting Tavares.
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