A_Tree
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Location: I'm r00ting for you™ - KS, ON Joined: 05.06.2011
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Check out the face off numbers. JPG was a mind boggling 82%. It is not hyperbole to say he owned Kadri in the face off circle. - spatso
Did he log against Kadri every single faceoff? No. |
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clarkson really isnt as big of a loss as many try to make it out to be, other than the locker room presence
you will see why
also kovy missed a fair amount of games so that stat isnt too far fetched - dmarsden2988
Fair enough. But also keep in mind Clarkson had the 4th highest shot total in the league last year. That stat is going to take a hit. |
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bobert836
New Jersey Devils |
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Location: Buying a dolphin and putting it in your swimming pool makes more sense, BC Joined: 06.19.2010
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Personally I think that reading too much into last year is dangerous. Go back and look at standings from previous years after 48 games. They don't necessarily stay the same by game 82. Teams that came out of nowhere like Toronto and Montreal proved nothing last year. As far as I'm concerned, they're coming off a missed playoff season last time we sued a real season. - scotch_tape
Thank you |
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riceroni
Ottawa Senators |
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Location: e5, ON Joined: 07.29.2009
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What climbed up your ass this morning?! - A_Tree
Can't handle the truth?
The Leafs are not very good. They overpaid for a redundant goalie, got rid of a few of their best possession players, signed a terrible contract with Clarksson and Bozak that will hurt the Leafs badly for years to come. Still have Liles, Franson is going to Sweden and Lupul is already showing his injury history is not a thing of the past. |
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Gunslinger
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: ID Joined: 10.15.2011
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He was actually cut by the shield of his helmet when Clarkson tried to pull it off. I think you better check the head to head play when JPG and Kadri were on the ice together. Kadri's numbers do not look good. - spatso
You mean like Kadris goal, head to head?
He wasn't cut by a shield. Its was a fist. The black eye proves it.
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spatso
Ottawa Senators |
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Location: jensen beach, FL Joined: 02.19.2007
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Did he log against Kadri every single faceoff? No. - A_Tree
Just every one that Kadri lost!
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rmdevil313
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: Your a (frank)ing fag and I hope you get crippled- Cranny, MN Joined: 01.05.2009
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And they had Kovelchuk and Clarkson too, but now they're gone. - PrinceLH
Kovalchuk missed a good chunk of the season and Clarkson was invisible for about half the season.... |
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Gunslinger
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: ID Joined: 10.15.2011
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Can't handle the truth?
The Leafs are not very good. They overpaid for a redundant goalie, got rid of a few of their best possession players, signed a terrible contract with Clarksson and Bozak that will hurt the Leafs badly for years to come. Still have Liles, Franson is going to Sweden and Lupul is already showing his injury history is not a thing of the past. - riceroni
This is just completely absurd now... |
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dmarsden2988
New Jersey Devils |
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Location: stafford is about equal to rya, NJ Joined: 03.07.2011
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Because he played on a good team and still got smoked in the playoffs by the Sharks and hasn't proven that he can win consistently. Is he worth a top 10 pick in the draft? I don't think so. So lets get this straight. The Devils could have gotten rid of the 29th pick, but didn't last year, in a weak draft, traded their top 10 pick for a dubious goalie that's not won anything and then surrendered their first pick next year, because of cap circumvention. Add to that, the loss of Parise, a year ago, losing Kovelchuk to the KHL and letting Clarkson walk as a UFA. So how does that constitute an upgrade, by adding Clowe and a couple of marginal Euro's? - PrinceLH
ryder is marginal?
so what your saying is schneider sucks but bernier is the truth |
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the way I see it:
the playoff staple teams: Pittsburgh, Boston, NY Rangers, Detroit.
the solid teams: Ottawa, Toronto, Washington
the bubble teams: NY Islanders, Montreal, Columbus, Phily
then everyone else... I think all 4 staple teams make it easily and the remaining 4 spots are left to the other 7 or so teams competing. I would expect Ottawa, Toronto, Washington, and Montreal to take those spots. |
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spatso
Ottawa Senators |
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Location: jensen beach, FL Joined: 02.19.2007
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You mean like Kadris goal, head to head?
He wasn't cut by a shield. Its was a fist. The black eye proves it.
- Gunslinger
Boy are you out to lunch.
Kadri scored with Pageau in the penalty box.
The cut was on the shield removal, many stories on that account.
JPG is the real deal.
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Gunslinger
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: ID Joined: 10.15.2011
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the way I see it:
the playoff staple teams: Pittsburgh, Boston, NY Rangers, Detroit.
the solid teams: Ottawa, Toronto, Washington
the bubble teams: NY Islanders, Montreal, Columbus, Phily
then everyone else... I think all 4 staple teams make it easily and the remaining 4 spots are left to the other 7 or so teams competing. I would expect Ottawa, Toronto, Washington, and Montreal to take those spots. - SuperHenderson13
Thank you |
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rmdevil313
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: Your a (frank)ing fag and I hope you get crippled- Cranny, MN Joined: 01.05.2009
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Fair enough. But also keep in mind Clarkson had the 4th highest shot total in the league last year. That stat is going to take a hit. - cryptical77
We add Ryder and Jagr and I think it will even out in terms of shots. We are a deeper team with less top talent up front. Bubble team especially in the metropolitan division. |
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scotch_tape
Carolina Hurricanes |
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Location: he's coming Joined: 07.26.2012
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Thank you - bobert836
Still think the Devils suck
Nah kidding. No clue. I could see them challenging for a spot. They have the goaltending. Sometimes that's enough. |
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PrinceLH
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Belleville, ON Joined: 07.06.2007
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Can't handle the truth?
The Leafs are not very good. They overpaid for a redundant goalie, got rid of a few of their best possession players, signed a terrible contract with Clarksson and Bozak that will hurt the Leafs badly for years to come. Still have Liles, Franson is going to Sweden and Lupul is already showing his injury history is not a thing of the past. - riceroni
And still found time to beat the Sens in Ottawa, the other night, playing their second and third lines against Ottawa's top line. We also used our AHL goalie for 2 periods and lost Kadri at the end of the second. So what's your point? Ottawa is what they always are.....the little Ontario brother that can't deal with big brother, when the chips are down. Sibling rivalries are always like that.
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Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Macrodata Refinement , ON Joined: 07.06.2007
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Leafs fans have false confidence from last year. In the Boston series a lot of Leaf fans don't remember that Boston was tired coming into the series after playing the extra makeup games with Ottawa and Tampa. Also, their D was injured for a lot of the series and I think game 6 they played with 5 D because Seidenberg got injured on the 1st shift. But, don't let those facts get in the way of planning the parade.
The Leafs will miss the playoffs that's for sure. I don't even think they will be in 10, I am thinking at best they make 11th, I can see them around 13th at the end of the season.
Hopefully Kessel get's frustrated and signs somewhere else next summer. - riceroni
They were tired?
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Gunslinger
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: ID Joined: 10.15.2011
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Boy are you out to lunch.
Kadri scored with Pageau in the penalty box.
The cut was on the shield removal, many stories on that account.
JPG is the real deal. - spatso
I know, you told us. I said it before, we get it. Pageau is as good, if not better, than Claude Giroux. You mentioned this.
Nice goal by Kadri, and nice drawing of blood on Pageau who he manhandled. I might be out to lunch, but you're paying. |
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TheLeafsInsider
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Choke Central, ON Joined: 03.30.2011
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david22
Ottawa Senators |
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Joined: 04.15.2008
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Because he played on a good team and still got smoked in the playoffs by the Sharks and hasn't proven that he can win consistently. Is he worth a top 10 pick in the draft? I don't think so. So lets get this straight. The Devils could have gotten rid of the 29th pick, but didn't last year, in a weak draft, traded their top 10 pick for a dubious goalie that's not won anything and then surrendered their first pick next year, because of cap circumvention. Add to that, the loss of Parise, a year ago, losing Kovelchuk to the KHL and letting Clarkson walk as a UFA. So how does that constitute an upgrade, by adding Clowe and a couple of marginal Euro's? - PrinceLH
But adding Schnieder for that pick doesn't equal an argument towards them not making the playoffs THIS year.
I also feel they'll miss for the record though. |
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Gunslinger
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: ID Joined: 10.15.2011
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Homer. - TheLeafsInsider
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spatso
Ottawa Senators |
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Location: jensen beach, FL Joined: 02.19.2007
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And still found time to beat the Sens in Ottawa, the other night, playing their second and third lines against Ottawa's top line. We also used our AHL goalie for 2 periods and lost Kadri at the end of the second. So what's your point? Ottawa is what they always are.....the little Ontario brother that can't deal with big brother, when the chips are down. Sibling rivalries are always like that. - PrinceLH
Did we not miss the playoffs seven years in a row? Did Ottawa not go to the Stanley Cup final during that period? Did they not win the President's Trophy another year? Did you just become a hockey fan last year for the first time?
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PrinceLH
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Belleville, ON Joined: 07.06.2007
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ryder is marginal?
so what your saying is schneider sucks but bernier is the truth - dmarsden2988
Not at all. If Schneider was all world, don't you think he's still be playing for the Canucks? He's a 10 -20 goalie in this league. He's not a top 10 like Marty was, for 20 years. He's also not got the same cast of players that Vancouver had in front of him. It's going to be a real change for him, coming east to play in a division and conference that is very close.
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Gunslinger
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: ID Joined: 10.15.2011
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Did we not miss the playoffs seven years in a row? Did Ottawa not go to the Stanley Cup final during that period? Did they not win the President's Trophy another year? Did you just become a hockey fan last year for the first time? - spatso
Wow. So you want to go back in time?
Does Toronto not have the 2nd most Cups, behind Montreal, in NHL history? Did you just become a hockey fan blah blah ..zzzz... |
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david22
Ottawa Senators |
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Joined: 04.15.2008
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And still found time to beat the Sens in Ottawa, the other night, playing their second and third lines against Ottawa's top line. We also used our AHL goalie for 2 periods and lost Kadri at the end of the second. So what's your point? Ottawa is what they always are.....the little Ontario brother that can't deal with big brother, when the chips are down. Sibling rivalries are always like that. - PrinceLH
It was a preseason game, don't get ahead of yourself. The leafs seemed to make that mistake recently and it went badly for them.
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A_Tree
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: I'm r00ting for you™ - KS, ON Joined: 05.06.2011
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Can't handle the truth?
The Leafs are not very good. They overpaid for a redundant goalie, got rid of a few of their best possession players, signed a terrible contract with Clarksson and Bozak that will hurt the Leafs badly for years to come. Still have Liles, Franson is going to Sweden and Lupul is already showing his injury history is not a thing of the past. - riceroni
Oh god, please stop there. Our best possession players were Grabovski, MacArthur and Frattin? Are you brain dead? No.. Sorry that's not fair. You've been mislead by "statisticians".
Clarksons contract is terrible, most leaf fans agree. That doesn't mean he was a bad acquisition. On the contrary, it was a very good pick up based on the teams direction.
I still believe Franson will resign. I don't put too much weight into rumors until they are proven. Having Bernier is hardly redundant. It helps, more than anything, to have a bit of strong competition between to young goal tenders. |
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