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derm10
Joined: 09.08.2010

Sep 20 @ 11:07 AM ET
Oh man, I thought this was a rumor.
- Captain_Quiffe

exactly... they offered clarkson over 6 mil a year for 7 years..... but ur right .. the leafs overpaid.
Al Hacker
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Stony Plain, AB
Joined: 02.10.2007

Sep 20 @ 11:08 AM ET
we get that with Baertschi and he hasn't played a full season...
- geta02it


Hall too, one of his injuries was a fluke skate on his face....but I guess a resiliant player wouldn't have been cut.
derm10
Joined: 09.08.2010

Sep 20 @ 11:08 AM ET
His first season he took 135 shots in 60ish games. Lets say he plays that many again. And lets say that he only shoots his avg of 10%(he shot a 13% in year one and 5% last year). This leads me to believe that he will score about 13 goals.

Thus your best bet is to take the over.

- OilHorse

13 goals is standard... for a 6 mil/year player.
derm10
Joined: 09.08.2010

Sep 20 @ 11:09 AM ET
Way too lazy to post the entire list but the oilers are 11th in the league for paying their top 3 guys. San jose, Washington, carolina, minnie. All above them.
- freelancer

where are they on the list agewise.
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Sep 20 @ 11:24 AM ET
reposting something i posted in the rangers thread, as i think it's applicable:
richards, on paper, had a good season last year even though he was actually awful if you watched him play. RNH, on paper, had a bad season last year, even though he was actually really, really good if you watched him play, when he was healthy. what i'm saying is that stats don't show the whole story.

this contract will be a BARGAIN 2 years in. we're bashing this deal but so many people here are willing to hand out stepan a deal for the same length and $1 million cheaper while RNH is most likely going to be a much better player than stepan when he's stepan's age.

i'm not saying that stepan is that much worse than RNH, but RNH is a 1st overall talent ala crosby, malkin, toews, etc. and while yes, he struggled with injuries so far, and yes, he took a step back stat-wise last year (even though his defense improved astronomically and he just looked like a better player than he did his rookie year), he WILL turn into a top 10 player in the league sooner rather than later.

RNH, in my opinion, is going to turn out to be the best oilers forward out of him, hall, yakupov, and eberle. and that's saying A LOT considering how unreal hall has become recently.
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Sep 20 @ 11:27 AM ET
13 goals is standard... for a 6 mil/year player.
- derm10

i'm guessing you're the kinda guy who wouldn't want patrice bergeron's contract and his measly ~20 goals on your team?
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Sep 20 @ 11:59 AM ET
no kidding, the Oilers players have proven they can play fire wagon hockey and be the worst team in the NHL by a country mile in the last 3 seasons. It must be pre-season the Oilers hype is out of control again.

I think what "you don't get" is that all those players are getting rewarded for constant losing

- flashfire

The oilers were better than the flames last year. And didnt finish last the year before that either.

If you're gonna troll, ar least attempt to say something based in reality. Or try actually watching hockey
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Sep 20 @ 12:01 PM ET
exactly... they offered clarkson over 6 mil a year for 7 years..... but ur right .. the leafs overpaid.
- derm10

They didnt offer the term. Which is the worst part of the contract.

Please dont attempt to slip absolute fabrications into your post to back up your bs.

Are the haters really this dumb?
mighty13duck
New York Islanders
Location: New Building. New Owner. New coach Nassau County, NY
Joined: 01.26.2009

Sep 20 @ 12:04 PM ET
Why do NYI fans keep coming into every teams threads to remind people how much they signed JT for?

They are like the outsider nerd who keeps lingering around people and interrupting their conversations with comments no one cares about.

- yaktalksback

mighty13duck
New York Islanders
Location: New Building. New Owner. New coach Nassau County, NY
Joined: 01.26.2009

Sep 20 @ 12:12 PM ET
reposting something i posted in the rangers thread, as i think it's applicable:
richards, on paper, had a good season last year even though he was actually awful if you watched him play. RNH, on paper, had a bad season last year, even though he was actually really, really good if you watched him play, when he was healthy. what i'm saying is that stats don't show the whole story.

this contract will be a BARGAIN 2 years in. we're bashing this deal but so many people here are willing to hand out stepan a deal for the same length and $1 million cheaper while RNH is most likely going to be a much better player than stepan when he's stepan's age.

i'm not saying that stepan is that much worse than RNH, but RNH is a 1st overall talent ala crosby, malkin, toews, TAVARES etc. and while yes, he struggled with injuries so far, and yes, he took a step back stat-wise last year (even though his defense improved astronomically and he just looked like a better player than he did his rookie year), he WILL turn into a top 10 player in the league sooner rather than later.

RNH, in my opinion, is going to turn out to be the best oilers forward out of him, hall, yakupov, and eberle. and that's saying A LOT considering how unreal hall has become recently.

- rangerdanger94

Fixed it for you buddy
Yeti1181
Referee
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I'm AWESOME, AB
Joined: 07.27.2012

Sep 20 @ 12:53 PM ET
They didnt offer the term. Which is the worst part of the contract.

Please dont attempt to slip absolute fabrications into your post to back up your bs.

Are the haters really this dumb?

- hugefemale dog77

Do you really need to ask that?
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Sep 20 @ 1:00 PM ET
Do you really need to ask that?
- Yeti1181

True.

A couple of my favs were none of the kids deserve that money cause they haven won a cup yet.

And tavares had a way better first 2 years than hall and rnh even though their ppg are all virtually identical at .75ppg
Hall's is actually better after 3.

Another guy kept laughing that rnh will be making 6 mil this year. He wont be till next year.

And the other dude kept harping that the oilers offered more money to clarkson.
But neglected to mention they didnt offer the term. Which is what makes that contract so bad.

They're good for a chuckle anyways
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

Sep 20 @ 1:03 PM ET
True.

A couple of my favs were none of the kids deserve that money cause they haven won a cup yet.

And tavares had a way better first 2 years than hall and rnh even though their ppg are all virtually identical at .75ppg
Hall's is actually better after 3.

- hugefemale dog77

My fav was yoda hiding for most of it
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Sep 20 @ 1:05 PM ET
My fav was yoda hiding for most of it
- Lahey

You loving poking the bears dont ya??
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

Sep 20 @ 1:12 PM ET
You loving poking the bears dont ya??
- hugefemale dog77

He's a bear? Maybe a chipmunk
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Sep 20 @ 1:14 PM ET
He's a bear? Maybe a chipmunk
- Lahey

And again.


Not to say a fearsome creature. Just an expression.
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

Sep 20 @ 1:17 PM ET
And again.


Not to say a fearsome creature. Just an expression.

- hugefemale dog77

Usually when I do that it's because you are in the "in", but Yoda is laughs slow on picking this poop up.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Sep 20 @ 1:41 PM ET
Why did you guys let that guy go? solid bottom 6 player.
- FiretheGM

We gave him a lot of time but honestly he looked good last year. I was kind of shocked we didn't sign him to a low end contract. He didn't score but he started doing all the little things he never did before. Years past he was soft, gave up on plays and just couldn't put it together. Guy seemed to come to camp always out of shape. Had a nice pair of tits though.
HouseArrest187
Edmonton Oilers
Location: ITS ON LIKE DONKEYKONG.... You know.... If he was sitting on a porch..., SK
Joined: 08.01.2012

Sep 20 @ 1:55 PM ET
My fav was yoda hiding for most of it
- Lahey


(frank)ing yeti
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Sep 20 @ 1:56 PM ET
Tavares contract is insane. Isles are so lucky to have him at that price.
- iknowbest

His next contract is going to be insane. Unfortunately it'll be the other kind of insane.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Sep 20 @ 1:57 PM ET
Either JT didn't believe in himself, or his agent didn't.

Also, .75 PPG..when he signed that contract his first two years. RNH.. .75.

- Blackstrom2

Do you actually believe this? If you knew anything about him you wouldn't even waste your time creating this post.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Sep 20 @ 1:58 PM ET


It's the same thing as the RNH contract.

- Blackstrom2

it's less term and cash
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

Sep 20 @ 2:01 PM ET


(frank)ing yeti

- HouseArrest187

You are up before noon?
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Sep 20 @ 2:03 PM ET
Tavares is a beast. But I don't see why Hall or RNH suddenly don't have the ability to become what Tavares is, and maybe more.

It's not like he was Stamkos or MacKinnon coming up.

f MacKinnon, I meant McDavid.

- Blackstrom2

He broke all of the scoring records in junior coming up including Gretzky's . Youngest player to be allowed in the OHL. Are you kidding me? You realy don't know what you're talking about.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Sep 20 @ 2:07 PM ET
He doesnt make more because he knows what money his team has to spend, its not secret you guys were on the verge of folding if the lockout didnt happened, and why the cap is not going to go up by much next year, because their are 6 teams in the league feeling the heat for money problems. I respect JT for taking a little hit so the team can spend more on the team.
- FiretheGM

Really? Where did you hear this? Must have been a secret to the rest of the league and humanity since we knew the end bfr the season before last we were moving to Brooklyn into the Barclay's center and a 25 yr lease. I know we are on hockeybuzz but come on
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