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systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Sep 19 @ 7:44 PM ET
Ben Eager points after 2005 - 84
RNH points after 2005 - 76

Eager >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> RNH

- kingbrehm


Someone had to bring the truth to light. Glad it was you.
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

Sep 19 @ 7:45 PM ET
So what if he's black. Who cares?
- systemtool

Speaking of which, why didn't Killbot join the talk on the new thread?
Jeffmt
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 10.11.2006

Sep 19 @ 7:45 PM ET
While I agree with the comparisons to some other guys in the league, Katz is just pissing money down the drain and paying these guys earlier than he has to.

Pros:

1) Yak is capped at $6m next off season .. the table is set for this to happen and we wont have to overpay.

2) In a couple of years when the cap goes back up and RNH (hopefully) turns into the player he should, this and the other $6m contracts will look like a steal.

Cons:

1) He has yet to play a full season, only 100games or so in total

2) He is little and needs to fill out so he doesn't get hurt so frequently

- kingbrehm



That's exactly it! You don't have to take such huge risks with these guys right now. Just about every team in the league is using bridge contracts for their young players because they want to see consistency before handing out big money and term. Maybe RNH is worth $6M a year but he hasn't proven it yet. Did the Hall and Eberle contracts paint the Oilers into a corner?

They've now got 3 forwards taking up $18M a year. They have no goalie signed for next season. What are they going to do with Justin Schultz who is a RFA after this season? How are they going to give Yakupov his money in a few seasons? There just doesn't seem to be a lot of foresight here.
laughs2907
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Wuhan, China
Joined: 07.18.2006

Sep 19 @ 7:46 PM ET
So if Yak had kept scoring at his pace last year (with a torrid finish) he still would have been worse than JT?

I never said Tavares was "well ahead" of anyone. I was just responding to another deluded poster who really wanted to hear how anyone could say he was better than any of those players after each year. I think I showed it pretty clearly.

- djamon


You're clearly delusional and have "showed" absolutely (frank) all...
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

Sep 19 @ 7:46 PM ET
That's his religion
- Yeti1181

Doubtful, pretty sure he is from Muslimko just NE of Russia. Hence why he can handle the cold.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Sep 19 @ 7:46 PM ET
Speaking of which, why didn't Killbot join the talk on the new thread?
- Lahey


It's probably a jewish thing.
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

Sep 19 @ 7:46 PM ET
You're clearly delusional and have "showed" absolutely (frank) all...
- laughs2907

I like that saying.
laughs2907
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Wuhan, China
Joined: 07.18.2006

Sep 19 @ 7:47 PM ET
Why do they call you laughs2907?
- djamon


Not quite sure you understand the whole profile creation process.
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

Sep 19 @ 7:47 PM ET
It's probably a jewish thing.
- systemtool

He's jewish? No wonder he didn't like my x-mas card.
Yeti1181
Referee
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I'm AWESOME, AB
Joined: 07.27.2012

Sep 19 @ 7:47 PM ET
Doubtful, pretty sure he is from Muslimko just NE of Russia. Hence why he can handle the cold.
- Lahey

Oh my mistake
robin_steele264
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 03.15.2009

Sep 19 @ 7:47 PM ET
That's exactly it! You don't have to take such huge risks with these guys right now. Just about every team in the league is using bridge contracts for their young players because they want to see consistency before handing out big money and term. Maybe RNH is worth $6M a year but he hasn't proven it yet. Did the Hall and Eberle contracts paint the Oilers into a corner?

They've now got 3 forwards taking up $18M a year. They have no goalie signed for next season. What are they going to do with Justin Schultz who is a RFA after this season? How are they going to give Yakupov his money in a few seasons? There just doesn't seem to be a lot of foresight here.

- Jeffmt




How does locking up your young core long term show lack of foresight?


Jeffmt
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 10.11.2006

Sep 19 @ 7:47 PM ET
How so? We have more than enough cap space for him.
- laughs2907


Ok, so you give him $6M as well (seems to be the going rate for first overall picks in Edmonton) and now you have 4 forwards taking up $24M in cap space. You also have to pay 9 more forwards, 7 defensemen, and 2 goalies. Money is going to get very tight.
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

Sep 19 @ 7:47 PM ET
Not quite sure you understand the whole profile creation process.
- laughs2907

Let me guess you thought laughs2907 was the password line?
kingbrehm
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Ferguson
Joined: 01.16.2011

Sep 19 @ 7:48 PM ET
Someone had to bring the truth to light. Glad it was you.
- systemtool


Someone had to do it
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

Sep 19 @ 7:48 PM ET
Ok, so you give him $6M as well (seems to be the going rate for first overall picks in Edmonton) and now you have 4 forwards taking up $24M in cap space. You also have to pay 9 more forwards, 7 defensemen, and 2 goalies. Money is going to get very tight.
- Jeffmt

Do yourself a favour and take a look around the league.
laughs2907
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Wuhan, China
Joined: 07.18.2006

Sep 19 @ 7:48 PM ET
2 subtract 9 is 07. Laughs because he laughs everytime he unzips to go pee.
- Lahey


What can I say? I find it hilarious that every time I urinate, I have to unwrap my schlong from around my waist.
Jeffmt
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 10.11.2006

Sep 19 @ 7:49 PM ET
How does locking up your young core long term show lack of foresight?
- robin_steele264


Because you really don't know what's going to happen with these kids in a season or two. You have a pretty good idea but you don't know for sure. Why not just sign them for 2 years and reevaluate the situation after that? They'll still be restricted and Edmonton will still have control. That's what every other team in the league is doing.
Jeffmt
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 10.11.2006

Sep 19 @ 7:50 PM ET
Do yourself a favour and take a look around the league.
- Lahey


What exactly am I looking for?
laughs2907
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Wuhan, China
Joined: 07.18.2006

Sep 19 @ 7:50 PM ET
Ok, so you give him $6M as well (seems to be the going rate for first overall picks in Edmonton) and now you have 4 forwards taking up $24M in cap space. You also have to pay 9 more forwards, 7 defensemen, and 2 goalies. Money is going to get very tight.
- Jeffmt


What lahey said...
djamon
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Victoria, BC
Joined: 05.27.2013

Sep 19 @ 7:50 PM ET
You're clearly delusional and have "showed" absolutely (frank) all...
- laughs2907


Would pie charts help you? What about an educational film?

It's ok...you'll get there.
robin_steele264
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 03.15.2009

Sep 19 @ 7:51 PM ET
Because you really don't know what's going to happen with these kids in a season or two. You have a pretty good idea but you don't know for sure. Why not just sign them for 2 years and reevaluate the situation after that? They'll still be restricted and Edmonton will still have control. That's what every other team in the league is doing.
- Jeffmt



No, every other team isn't doing that.


laughs2907
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Wuhan, China
Joined: 07.18.2006

Sep 19 @ 7:51 PM ET
Let me guess you thought laughs2907 was the password line?
- Lahey


robin_steele264
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 03.15.2009

Sep 19 @ 7:51 PM ET
What exactly am I looking for?
- Jeffmt



Salary structure of contending teams


Jeffmt
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 10.11.2006

Sep 19 @ 7:52 PM ET
Salary structure of contending teams
- robin_steele264


Is that what Edmonton is now?
djamon
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Victoria, BC
Joined: 05.27.2013

Sep 19 @ 7:53 PM ET
Not quite sure you understand the whole profile creation process.
- laughs2907


So what DO they call you? I have an idea.

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