Woderwick
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Location: David Clarkson's Water Bottle, ON Joined: 02.12.2013
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Yeah I saw Liles in the top 4
That's how deep we are - robin_steele264
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Dozzer
Referee Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high Joined: 09.15.2010
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I thought he was the 2nd best dman last season - robin_steele264
franson?
thats because he played against grinders
he was sheltered.. he didnt play against crosby, ovie, staal, etc.
he played against third and fourth lines.
playing well is one thing.. but you have to look at entire picture to get to the truth of the matter. |
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nope, insert liles.
done. - Dozzer
Leafs will be done. Yes
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mykokes
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: RELEASE THE LATVIAN!, ON Joined: 11.09.2009
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he should be signed.. 2 to 2.5 million range.. if he proves he can handle tougher assignments.. then big contract next time
but not until he proves it.
his most successful years were under trotz and carlyle who both sheltered him from hard defensive assignments. one trick pony up to this point.. if he proves himself worth, fantastic.. if not.. well then he is on the right pay scale. - Dozzer
Would you be unhappy if he's signed to 2.9? |
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poohcrumbs
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Location: I think Loov is going to become another Lidstrom- matt1337 Joined: 09.12.2009
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The last few pages are like a dog chasing his own tail |
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Dozzer
Referee Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high Joined: 09.15.2010
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Yeah I saw Liles in the top 4
That's how deep we are - robin_steele264
make fun of liles all you want.. but playing limited minutes, and being sat often, and not getting his usal PP time he was still on pace for a 30P season
if thats his poopty season i am 100% with that. |
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franson?
thats because he played against grinders
he was sheltered.. he didnt play against crosby, ovie, staal, etc.
he played against third and fourth lines.
playing well is one thing.. but you have to look at entire picture to get to the truth of the matter. - Dozzer
Then he got a bigger role and thrived.
Him and Gardiner rose to the occasion while the rest wilted
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mykokes
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: RELEASE THE LATVIAN!, ON Joined: 11.09.2009
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- Woderwick
Again, I observed that too....starting to think Robin is a Leaf fan who jumped ship when JFJ ran the team into the ground, liked the youth movement in Edmonton and switched teams. Like that Tylerseguin19 fellow. |
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Dozzer
Referee Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high Joined: 09.15.2010
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Leafs will be done. Yes - robin_steele264
yes.. franson is the be all end all to the leafs success.
sorry but thats just downright stupid as (frank).
a more casual fan wouldnt even notice him gone. |
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Rockhead_37
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Bolton, ON Joined: 09.11.2010
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As the season went on he went from 14 to over 20 minutes with added defensive respon......
(frank) didn't you read the tsn propaganda???
- robin_steele264
no... as the season went on, opposing teams started playing their 4th lines more. and carlyle had to match with his 5/6 dmen. |
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burn
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON Joined: 08.02.2006
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Would you rank him as the 5/6 guy on the current depth chart? - robin_steele264
He needs to prove he's capable there full time. I think he's earned that right to move up. |
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mykokes
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: RELEASE THE LATVIAN!, ON Joined: 11.09.2009
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Then he got a bigger role and thrived.
Him and Gardiner rose to the occasion while the rest wilted - robin_steele264
That's what I believe too, but not everyone is convinced. Which is fine.....hoping OUR team continues to build on last season. |
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make fun of liles all you want.. but playing limited minutes, and being sat often, and not getting his usal PP time he was still on pace for a 30P season
if thats his poopty season i am 100% with that. - Dozzer
Liles has been the spit bucket of these boards for ages.
Today he's a top 4
Forgive me for being confused.
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Dozzer
Referee Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high Joined: 09.15.2010
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Then he got a bigger role and thrived.
Him and Gardiner rose to the occasion while the rest wilted - robin_steele264
he didnt get a bigger role til the mid point of the playoffs when fraser went down
and he only thrived because the line carlyle matched him against was sucking ass hardcore.
you're still not seeing the entire picture. the situation in which he thrived is more important than the fact he thrived in it. |
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Dozzer
Referee Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high Joined: 09.15.2010
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Liles has been the spit bucket of these boards for ages.
Today he's a top 4
Forgive me for being confused. - robin_steele264
not to me. i still think he is top 4
just not physical enough for carlyle |
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yes.. franson is the be all end all to the leafs success.
sorry but thats just downright stupid as (frank).
a more casual fan wouldnt even notice him gone. - Dozzer
franson debate again?... |
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yes.. franson is the be all end all to the leafs success.
sorry but thats just downright stupid as (frank).
a more casual fan wouldnt even notice him gone. - Dozzer
Leafs D was bad last year.
Thinking they'll be fine by playing Liles more is stupid as (frank)
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Dozzer
Referee Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high Joined: 09.15.2010
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franson debate again?... - Colin Dambrauskas
i left for a couple hours and they were still going |
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he didnt get a bigger role til the mid point of the playoffs when fraser went down
and he only thrived because the line carlyle matched him against was sucking ass hardcore.
you're still not seeing the entire picture. the situation in which he thrived is more important than the fact he thrived in it. - Dozzer
I think you are wrong
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Dozzer
Referee Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high Joined: 09.15.2010
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Leafs D was bad last year.
Thinking they'll be fine by playing Liles more is stupid as (frank) - robin_steele264
toronto was 17th fir GA/G
the "bad" you speak of is hugely overblown. middle of the pack |
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burn
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON Joined: 08.02.2006
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I thought he was the 2nd best dman last season - robin_steele264
It's easy to stand out when you don't have challenging opposition. He needs to show he can handle playing in all situation full time, not just limited es mins against 4th liners and on the pp. |
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Dozzer
Referee Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high Joined: 09.15.2010
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I think you are wrong - robin_steele264
would you give up edmontons first rounder for him?
you seem to be a huge fan |
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senstroll
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Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON Joined: 02.22.2008
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Leafs D was bad last year.
Thinking they'll be fine by playing Liles more is stupid as (frank) - robin_steele264
ummmm you are forgetting Ranger
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Dozzer
Referee Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high Joined: 09.15.2010
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It's easy to stand out when you don't have challenging opposition. He needs to show he can handle playing in all situation full time, not just limited es mins against 4th liners and on the pp. - burn
people have serious tunnel vision around here. they only see what they want and avoid looking at the circumstances surrounding it.
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burn
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Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON Joined: 08.02.2006
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Leafs will be done. Yes - robin_steele264
Doubtful |
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