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MunsterMike
Joined: 01.14.2010

Aug 27 @ 10:53 AM ET
Who is everybody's top 3 least liked tv or radio personality?
- PhillySportsGuy


The feeling I get is that it's Bruce Garrioch in Ottawa, Damian Cox in Toronto, guys who are writers for local papers who get called on the TV and Radio.
KGBflyers10
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 10.28.2007

Aug 27 @ 10:53 AM ET
yeah congrats on your 3rd gold medal ever at the world juniors, talk to me when you win 12 more or win 5 straight gold medals twice at this tournament.
- RobFlyers#1


For a Flyers fan, you are very annoying.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Aug 27 @ 10:54 AM ET
yeah congrats on your 3rd gold medal ever at the world juniors, talk to me when you win 12 more or win 5 straight gold medals twice at this tournament.
- RobFlyers#1


Counterpoint:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLVb_ZvBz_s
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Aug 27 @ 10:55 AM ET
Are you trying to say that Canada has a deeper and more-storied hockey history than the USA? I don't think you're going to get an argument there.

But today, USA is right there with them. Some people get very turned off by the way that Canada talks about its superiority. Last Olympics, it was, "Well, yeah, the other teams are okay I guess...but Canada is CLEARLY much better, it should be a cakewalk." They were 1 OT goal away from losing.

Same with this past WJC. They had all of these stars, including RNH, all of the other countries were crap. What medal did that group win (coaching aside)?

Look, Canada will always be the easy choice because they basically put together the NHL All Stars. But the USA, Russia, and Sweden can all beat them any given day.

- jmatchett383


I thought Canada had too many all stars last time. The USA put together a team that looked more like a standard lineup. A good checking line, PP specialist (Rafalski) and good DD. Having Miller didn't hurt either. Who is going to be Canada's goalie this year? The US is feeling pretty confident with Quick.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Aug 27 @ 10:55 AM ET
They did. There was this game several years ago where a bunch of USA college kids beat some team that the professional Canadian All Stars weren't able to handle. It even had some name, like the something on ice.
- jmatchett383


I think they even made movies about it. The name escapes me, however......
MunsterMike
Joined: 01.14.2010

Aug 27 @ 10:58 AM ET
I thought Canada had too many all stars last time. The USA put together a team that looked more like a standard lineup. A good checking line, PP specialist (Rafalski) and good DD. Having Miller didn't hurt either. Who is going to be Canada's goalie this year? The US is feeling pretty confident with Quick.
- PhillySportsGuy


Hoisting the little-guys-in-hockey banner high.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Aug 27 @ 10:59 AM ET
They did. There was this game several years ago where a bunch of USA college kids beat some team that the professional Canadian All Stars weren't able to handle. It even had some name, like the something on ice.
- jmatchett383

p sure that's Mighty Ducks 4
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Aug 27 @ 10:59 AM ET
For a Flyers fan, you are very annoying.
- KGBflyers10


Well, it IS Canada and hockey. It's like Russia and Vodka, it runs their lives.
RobFlyers#1
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.22.2009

Aug 27 @ 11:00 AM ET
For a Flyers fan, you are very annoying.
- KGBflyers10


Thanks for the compliment. But check back through the comments didn't start the Canada Hockey vs USA Hockey thing but I will finish it. all I tried to do in my original comments was explain that here in Canada having one of your top players skip an Olympic camp is going to be big news.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Aug 27 @ 11:01 AM ET
As a Flyers fan first, I find all the jingoistic stuff to be kind of odd. I rooted for Canada in 2010, because they had more Flyers than the US. National teams really inspire little passion in me.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Aug 27 @ 11:02 AM ET
p sure that's Mighty Ducks 4
- BulliesPhan87


I thought Julie "The Cat" Gaffney and Connie Moreau were hot when I was young.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Aug 27 @ 11:02 AM ET
p sure that's Mighty Ducks 4
- BulliesPhan87


I think I rooted for Team Iceland in that one.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Aug 27 @ 11:03 AM ET
As a Flyers fan first, I find all the jingoistic stuff to be kind of odd. I rooted for Canada in 2010, because they had more Flyers than the US. National teams really inspire little passion in me.
- Jsaquella


It's not the same when you have professionals playing these games. I'd prefer the amateurs play the Olympics and let the pros have World Cup or Canada Cup or something like that.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Aug 27 @ 11:05 AM ET
I think I rooted for Team Iceland in that one.
- johndewar


Gunnar Staal could have wrecked Dean Portman. Buncha USA nancy boys.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Aug 27 @ 11:06 AM ET
It's not the same when you have professionals playing these games. I'd prefer the amateurs play the Olympics and let the pros have World Cup or Canada Cup or something like that.
- johndewar


Agreed. World Cup was great because it didn't interfere with the season. Mike Richter was amazing in 1996, by the way.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Aug 27 @ 11:09 AM ET
Agreed. World Cup was great because it didn't interfere with the season. Mike Richter was amazing in 1996, by the way.
- jmatchett383


I was at some of the games in 1996 at the Corestates Center.

The Canada - USA brawl was just amazing because, only speaking for myself, I wasn't quite expecting THAT level of intensity between the the two teams.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKcbICOs7u8
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Aug 27 @ 11:13 AM ET
That's the biggest issue, for sure.

I read Bill's blogs. Rarely is there better insight or information than I'd get from any of the local beat writers, even if I hear it 20 minutes later.

I'm a fan of the team, I want coverage of the team. But I don't want the WIP coverage, or the salacious nonsense. Far too often the MSM is just as interested in the off ice stuff as they are the on ice stuff.

And that's not necessarily the beat guys themselves. There are directives from above that they do have to follow, and quite a lot of the TMZ-ization of the sports page comes from that.

- Jsaquella


it's just not informative. plenty more in the twitterverse that's better than what we get fed here. we deserve better, and i'm very thankful for bill being one of ours.

jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Aug 27 @ 11:13 AM ET
I was at some of the games in 1996 at the Corestates Center.

The Canada - USA brawl was just amazing because, only speaking for myself, I wasn't quite expecting THAT level of intensity between the the two teams.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKcbICOs7u8

- johndewar


It was great because it was 20 seconds into the inaugural event at the game.
Fight 20 seconds in
LeClair scored first goal in new building (not the mention the GTG last in regulation in the Finals Game 1).
Derian Hatcher punched a ref.

But, truth be told, the Canada-Sweden triple OT game was probably the best display of skilled hockey I've ever seen.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Aug 27 @ 11:16 AM ET
They did. There was this game several years ago where a bunch of USA college kids beat some team that the professional Canadian All Stars weren't able to handle. It even had some name, like the something on ice.
- jmatchett383


and the 1981 canada cup team says hi. i mean, seriously. GMAFB.
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Aug 27 @ 11:17 AM ET
I was at some of the games in 1996 at the Corestates Center.

The Canada - USA brawl was just amazing because, only speaking for myself, I wasn't quite expecting THAT level of intensity between the the two teams.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKcbICOs7u8

- johndewar


I was in the stands (this was before I was credentialed) for all three World Cup games in Philly in 1996 and I still think it was the best hockey I've ever seen in person. When LeClair scored in the final seconds to force overtime in Game 1 of the best-of-three round against Canada, the building went bonkers. Total strangers were embracing like it was Lake Placid revisited. I will never forget it.


hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Aug 27 @ 11:19 AM ET
Thanks for the compliment. But check back through the comments didn't start the Canada Hockey vs USA Hockey thing but I will finish it. all I tried to do in my original comments was explain that here in Canada having one of your top players skip an Olympic camp is going to be big news.
- RobFlyers#1


the 2013 maccabi games gold medal senior hockey team says hi, too.



hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Aug 27 @ 11:22 AM ET
I was in the stands (this was before I was credentialed) for all three World Cup games in Philly in 1996 and I still think it was the best hockey I've ever seen in person. When LeClair scored in the final seconds to force overtime in Game 1 of the best-of-three round against Canada, the building went bonkers. Total strangers were embracing like it was Lake Placid revisited. I will never forget it.
- bmeltzer


even better than Rendevous '87??!!!!

i watched the WC games in a sports bar at the mall of america in minneapolis.
RobFlyers#1
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.22.2009

Aug 27 @ 11:26 AM ET
the 2013 maccabi games gold medal senior hockey team says hi, too.




- hammarby31


really....you want to start posting championship pictures...did you just start watching hockey because posting Canada championship pictures could take all day.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Aug 27 @ 11:28 AM ET
really....you want to start posting championship pictures...did you just start watching hockey because posting Canada championship pictures could take all day.
- RobFlyers#1

He's the gold medalist goalie in that pixture, bra
phi1671
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 08.06.2007

Aug 27 @ 11:32 AM ET
As a Flyers fan first, I find all the jingoistic stuff to be kind of odd. I rooted for Canada in 2010, because they had more Flyers than the US. National teams really inspire little passion in me.
- Jsaquella



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