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MattDuchene9
Colorado Avalanche
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 06.29.2012

Aug 15 @ 4:25 PM ET
Dumb move by Avs. He now will be a UFA in his prime
- sbroads24


Dumb thing to say. I'm positive he will sign an extension if all goes right.
MattDuchene9
Colorado Avalanche
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 06.29.2012

Aug 15 @ 4:31 PM ET
Dumb move by Avs. He now will be a UFA in his prime
- sbroads24


Like honestly did you even think before you said that? So was it a dumb move by the Blackhawks to sign Toews and Kane because they will be a ufa in their prime, so will Eberle and hall and tons of players. Just like how perry and getzlaf signed extensions before they became a ufa. Look at the ufa list for this year and I bet almost all of the stars will be signed before July 1st
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Aug 15 @ 4:32 PM ET
Dumb move by Avs. He now will be a UFA in his prime
- sbroads24


anything can happen but what you dont think they can extend him again? I dont see how that is a bad move, he has shown he has the attitude that he would want to be a life long avalanche, like I said anything can happen, but if anyone was goign to be on that team for the long haul, I have landeskog high on that list, right behind duchene.
rmiethaner
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 10.04.2006

Aug 15 @ 4:32 PM ET
It bothers me that all the people who aren't avs fans think its a bad contract because he hasn't produced a point a game season yet. He won the Calder his rookie year and was plagued by a head injury last year. He's our captain for petes sake. Definitely a good contract and I'm very happy to see we are locking up our young guns for a while
- MattDuchene9



It bothers me that all the people who are avs fans think it's a good contract even though he has not produced a ppg season yet.

Edit: Not really "all", but I am sure everyone gets the point.
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

Aug 15 @ 4:32 PM ET
I think its a good move for brining back the fan base as well. Show the fans that the Avs are committed to winning/financially again. Let them get familiar with the young kids as they are going to be around for a long time now.

Duchene and Landeskog are so loved in that community, now you can market them for the long term, good exciting young players witht the old stars running the show now, it will only help bring fans back into the arena.

- DDM-Coga

I remember when we marketed HOPE. All that's left of that is HE.
seedy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: you don't need an ignore button to ignore someone., CA
Joined: 02.22.2007

Aug 15 @ 4:34 PM ET
Dumb move by Avs. He now will be a UFA in his prime
- sbroads24


Sounds a lot like a guy on our team in the last year of his contract who regularly leads the team in scoring....
And as Sabres, we can't badmouth the Landeskog contract with Meyers contract/bonus. If ANYONE should have gotten a bridge, it was him. Right now he would be negotiating against a 2 way contract the way he has played.
Not sure if Landeskog got a bonus, but that deal looks better than what we threw at Meyers. Hindsight is 20/20 I guess.

DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Aug 15 @ 4:34 PM ET
It bothers me that all the people who are avs fans think it's a good contract even though he has not produced a ppg season yet.
- rmiethaner


I do like the contract bc I believe he is the real deal, and last season was just a injury filled crap shoot. But I will admit its a gamble, he could easily be very over paid if he doesnt bounce back.

But it is just refreshign to see management take leaps of faith and sign players long term for significant money, instead of penny pinching and letting talent walk or trade them away for cheaper options (Craig Anderson/Chris Stewart to name a few)
MattDuchene9
Colorado Avalanche
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 06.29.2012

Aug 15 @ 4:35 PM ET
It bothers me that all the people who are avs fans think it's a good contract even though he has not produced a ppg season yet.

Edit: Not really "all", but I am sure everyone gets the point.

- rmiethaner


Not a good or bad contract. Yeah it could come back to bite us in the arse but so do a lot of contracts nowadays
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

Aug 15 @ 4:37 PM ET
I was asked via PM about whether or not I'd like RNH to get a similar deal. Below is my response.


It's not that I'd be against it as I know that is how the NHL is, but I think it's outright stupid to be committing so much to guys that haven't exactly shown they are worth it. We went into a lockout for pretty much nothing.

In 5 years from now I'd like to see the NHL landscape. Between all those 10 year deals finally starting to look bad and then all these guys on year 2 of ELC getting these LT deals things could get horrible.


To add to this as I didn't touch base on the rising salary cap. The same was said when Nash, Heatley, Gaborik, E.Staal signed their deals. What kind deal did those teams end up with?
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

Aug 15 @ 4:39 PM ET
It bothers me that all the people who are avs fans think it's a good contract even though he has not produced a ppg season yet.

Edit: Not really "all", but I am sure everyone gets the point.

- rmiethaner

I don't think he has to be PPG for that contract to have value. PPG is rare. What something like 10 guys a year that play close to a full season get a true PPG?
JoeyG1951
Location: Campbell River, BC
Joined: 05.23.2010

Aug 15 @ 4:40 PM ET
Hodgson does not measure up to Landeskog in my opinion.

Cody worth about 1 mil per season less
goavsgo10
Colorado Avalanche
Location: Landeskoging, NY
Joined: 02.14.2010

Aug 15 @ 4:41 PM ET
Dumb move by Avs. He now will be a UFA in his prime
- sbroads24

Why would he sign anywhere else? He's the captain, loves Denver, will have a great group of players his age also entering their primes when he is, and he's a stand up guy that I'm sure would be willing to take a discount for the franchise that has entrusted him with so much in order to add other pieces to build a contender...just the type of guy he is.
MattDuchene9
Colorado Avalanche
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 06.29.2012

Aug 15 @ 4:42 PM ET
I was asked via PM about whether or not I'd like RNH to get a similar deal. Below is my response.


It's not that I'd be against it as I know that is how the NHL is, but I think it's outright stupid to be committing so much to guys that haven't exactly shown they are worth it. We went into a lockout for pretty much nothing.

In 5 years from now I'd like to see the NHL landscape. Between all those 10 year deals finally starting to look bad and then all these guys on year 2 of ELC getting these LT deals things could get horrible.


To add to this as I didn't touch base on the rising salary cap. The same was said when Nash, Heatley, Gaborik, E.Staal signed their deals. What kind deal did those teams end up with?

- Lahey


Well if the oilers don't offer that kind of money some other team will give an offer sheet for that. Especially since duchene and landeskog are making that money RNH with expect similar money
IggyOnly
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 12.01.2006

Aug 15 @ 4:42 PM ET
Hahaha fantastic contract. I like Landeskog but he's done absolutely zero in his career to earn that contract. And I'm not going to bring up point totals because I'm the first to point out, points are certainly not everything, but there's no way to justify that contract.

In a couple years it may look great, or it may not if he's just a 3rd liner on the Avs.

- SameOld


Landeskog... A 3rd liner? Have you even seen the kid play? I've seen him numerous times and there is zero chance he dips below 2nd line and even that is unrealistic. This kid and Mackinnon are going to tear the league apart ala Forsberg and Sakic.
MatzCT
New York Rangers
Location: CO
Joined: 08.04.2009

Aug 15 @ 4:43 PM ET
It bothers me that all the people who aren't avs fans think its a bad contract because he hasn't produced a point a game season yet. He won the Calder his rookie year and was plagued by a head injury last year. He's our captain for petes sake. Definitely a good contract and I'm very happy to see we are locking up our young guns for a while
- MattDuchene9

The only reason you'll see other fans complaing and calling this a bad contract is because it affects their team in the rfa they're trying to sign. Not because it's actaully a bad contract.

Toronoto fans will complain becuase they can't sign Kadri to that deal even though it's probably a good deal.

As a Ranger fan it affect's the Stepan signing but I'm not complaing here, that deal will get done and probably turn into a bridge deal, whatever.

For the Avs, the contract seem fair and will be a great deal down the line. He's your captain, not some rookie coming off a good year. Locking up a good your core for the next 6-8 years is how you build a team.
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Aug 15 @ 4:45 PM ET
Landeskog... A 3rd liner? Have you even seen the kid play? I've seen him numerous times and there is zero chance he dips below 2nd line and even that is unrealistic. This kid and Mackinnon are going to tear the league apart ala Forsberg and Sakic.
- IggyOnly


I am looking forward to having Downie back this season, he kept opposing teams honest when the kids were out on the ice. You didnt try and cheap stuff when you had that buzz saw roaming around the ice. He was sorely missed and made the Avs a heck of a lot easier to play against.
MattDuchene9
Colorado Avalanche
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 06.29.2012

Aug 15 @ 4:46 PM ET
The only reason you'll see other fans complaing and calling this a bad contract is because it affects their team in the rfa they're trying to sign. Not because it's actaully a bad contract.

Toronoto fans will complain becuase they can't sign Kadri to that deal even though it's probably a good deal.

As a Ranger fan it affect's the Stepan signing but I'm not complaing here, that deal will get done and probably turn into a bridge deal, whatever.

For the Avs, the contract seem fair and will be a great deal down the line. He's your captain, not some rookie coming off a good year. Locking up a good your core for the next 6-8 years is how you build a team.

- MatzCT


I don't think it will be affecting other RFAs as it normally would considering he is our captain. I don't think they sabres fans are used to seeing young players make this kind of money because they don't have players with the same potential as landeskog and duchene
MattDuchene9
Colorado Avalanche
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 06.29.2012

Aug 15 @ 4:46 PM ET
I am looking forward to having Downie back this season, he kept opposing teams honest when the kids were out on the ice. You didnt try and cheap stuff when you had that buzz saw roaming around the ice. He was sorely missed and made the Avs a heck of a lot easier to play against.
- DDM-Coga


He's a player non Avs fans overlook but him missing the entire season really hurt us. He's similar to Ott
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

Aug 15 @ 4:47 PM ET
Well if the oilers don't offer that kind of money some other team will give an offer sheet for that. Especially since duchene and landeskog are making that money RNH with expect similar money
- MattDuchene9

I know it's going to happen and I know that probably all 30 NHL teams would've signed Landeskog to a similar deal, the problem is the landscape of the NHL. What did we go through a lockout for? Money is still being tossed around like nobodies business.

But no worries when Hall, Skinner, Landeskog and others that have had major injuries so early in their careers are playing XBox360*5 more than they are playing NHL hockey I'm sure the NHL will allow teams to get rid of the contracts somehow.
goavsgo10
Colorado Avalanche
Location: Landeskoging, NY
Joined: 02.14.2010

Aug 15 @ 4:48 PM ET
Landeskog is one of the few players in NHL history that I would trust with a 7 year/5.6avg contract extension in only his second year. The guy is mature way beyond his years, won the Calder, is our captain, gives so much back to the Denver community, and above all else knows the responsibility and prestige that comes with being the avalanche captain. With super joe running the organization and Roy as his coach I see him only getting better as a player, captain, and person.
Travis Yost
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 01.26.2010

Aug 15 @ 4:50 PM ET
Huh. I don't know, I think this is a good bet by Colorado and a decent price for it. The cap ceiling is going to be at an ungodly level three/five years from now. So his AAV will be a smaller percentage of the team salary every year, particularly as new contracts are awarded.
MattDuchene9
Colorado Avalanche
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 06.29.2012

Aug 15 @ 4:50 PM ET
I know it's going to happen and I know that probably all 30 NHL teams would've signed Landeskog to a similar deal, the problem is the landscape of the NHL. What did we go through a lockout for? Money is still being tossed around like nobodies business.

But no worries when Hall, Skinner, Landeskog and others that have had major injuries so early in their careers are playing XBox360*5 more than they are playing NHL hockey I'm sure the NHL will allow teams to get rid of the contracts somehow.

- Lahey


Landeskog didn't have a major injury he missed like 10 games
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

Aug 15 @ 4:53 PM ET
Landeskog didn't have a major injury he missed like 10 games
- MattDuchene9

I consider concussions a major injury.
MattDuchene9
Colorado Avalanche
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 06.29.2012

Aug 15 @ 4:54 PM ET
I consider concussions a major injury.
- Lahey


With conclusions it's all about the severity. Not anywhere close to crosbys
AvsFanYeaa
Colorado Avalanche
Location: MN
Joined: 07.05.2013

Aug 15 @ 4:57 PM ET
How does an article about the Avs signing a player end up as an article about Buffalo, as if I haven't heard enough about their "situation"?
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