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FLYERSROCK!
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Anyone who takes Andrew MacDonald's contract will instantly become my 3rd favourite team, SK
Joined: 09.09.2008

Aug 15 @ 3:45 PM ET
Hahaha fantastic contract. I like Landeskog but he's done absolutely zero in his career to earn that contract. And I'm not going to bring up point totals because I'm the first to point out, points are certainly not everything, but there's no way to justify that contract.

In a couple years it may look great, or it may not if he's just a 3rd liner on the Avs.

- SameOld

Im looking at all the other contracts given out these past few offseasons, i have 0 problem with the Avs paying him that much.
He wont be a 3rd liner. No chance. It'll be a great contract in a few years.
need to look at the cap hit per year. 14/15 and 15/16 season he's only making 4.5M, then it keeps on increasing. its not a bad contract

it's like people complaining that Giroux's cap is only 500k less than Crosby. Yes it is but Crosby is making like 11M these next few years while Giroux is making 8 or so. Look at the salary not the cap hit.
FLYERSROCK!
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Anyone who takes Andrew MacDonald's contract will instantly become my 3rd favourite team, SK
Joined: 09.09.2008

Aug 15 @ 3:45 PM ET
So Kadri should get around 1-1.5 for the next 2-3 years ?
- blizzzard

From his standpoint, yep

sorry thats not how the NHL works.
RickJames77
Boston Bruins
Location: I’m Here For The Lottery
Joined: 04.03.2013

Aug 15 @ 3:47 PM ET
From his standpoint, yep

sorry thats not how the NHL works.

- FLYERSROCK!

*grabs popcorn*
SameOld
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 07.25.2010

Aug 15 @ 3:48 PM ET
So Kadri should get around 1-1.5 for the next 2-3 years ?
- blizzzard


One can hope. FYI http://www.nhl.com/ice/pl...&status=&viewName=summary
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Aug 15 @ 3:49 PM ET
Hahaha fantastic contract. I like Landeskog but he's done absolutely zero in his career to earn that contract. And I'm not going to bring up point totals because I'm the first to point out, points are certainly not everything, but there's no way to justify that contract.

In a couple years it may look great, or it may not if he's just a 3rd liner on the Avs.

- SameOld


As a rookie Winning the Calder by leading your team in goals, being 3rd in points, leading +/- (+20 as rookie is mind boggling), shots (over 200), hits (over 200), and becoming the leader of your team before you are 20 is a good start to your career.

last year he had a bumpy seaon due to the lockout compressing everything, getting a concussion 4 games into the season, and having a hard time catching up to the rest of the league after missing 15 games bc of it.

Dont worry about his career, he might have not earned it as of the end of this season, but wait till end of next season when the new contract kicks in, then tell me if he is worth it or not.
SameOld
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 07.25.2010

Aug 15 @ 3:49 PM ET
Im looking at all the other contracts given out these past few offseasons, i have 0 problem with the Avs paying him that much.
He wont be a 3rd liner. No chance. It'll be a great contract in a few years.
need to look at the cap hit per year. 14/15 and 15/16 season he's only making 4.5M, then it keeps on increasing. its not a bad contract

it's like people complaining that Giroux's cap is only 500k less than Crosby. Yes it is but Crosby is making like 11M these next few years while Giroux is making 8 or so. Look at the salary not the cap hit.

- FLYERSROCK!


Why in the world would anyone look at the salary and not the cap hit.. The NHL has a salary cap.
Aerchon
Joined: 10.14.2011

Aug 15 @ 3:50 PM ET
Terrible contract.

Messes up the whole league.

How do you give him more than Tavares???

Insanity.

I personally don't know if he could truly be considered a top line player yet. Top 6 forsure but points wise he isn't there yet and may never be.
blizzzard
New Jersey Devils
Location: Orillia, ON
Joined: 07.02.2011

Aug 15 @ 3:51 PM ET
One can hope. FYI http://www.nhl.com/ice/pl...&status=&viewName=summary
- SameOld

I think that is all he should get using your logic since he hasnt proven anything, won any awards or played 1 full season in the NHL
Avs-Ice
Colorado Avalanche
Location: Boulder, CO
Joined: 04.14.2010

Aug 15 @ 3:51 PM ET
I'm OK with this contract. Would have liked if there was a bridge contract. I would guess the contract is based off of Dustin Brown's. I guess they expect him to put up similar numbers. Also I hate "#Landeskoging" or anything of that nature.

People complaining about points don't understand that that's not the only thing that matters. Gabe is great on the penalty kill.
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Aug 15 @ 3:53 PM ET
Terrible contract.

Messes up the whole league.

How do you give him more than Tavares???

Insanity.

I personally don't know if he could truly be considered a top line player yet. Top 6 forsure but points wise he isn't there yet and may never be.

- Aerchon


He never was slated to be a 90 point guy. He was always labeled a Dustin Brown/Mike Richards/Ryan Callahan type player. Those guys play a tough hard nose 2 way game.
blizzzard
New Jersey Devils
Location: Orillia, ON
Joined: 07.02.2011

Aug 15 @ 3:54 PM ET
He never was slated to be a 90 point guy. He was always labeled a Dustin Brown/Mike Richards/Ryan Callahan type player. Those guys play a tough hard nose 2 way game.
- DDM-Coga

And get paid similar amounts of money to do so
SameOld
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 07.25.2010

Aug 15 @ 3:55 PM ET
As a rookie Winning the Calder by leading your team in goals, being 3rd in points, leading +/- (+20 as rookie is mind boggling), shots (over 200), hits (over 200), and becoming the leader of your team before you are 20 is a good start to your career.

last year he had a bumpy seaon due to the lockout compressing everything, getting a concussion 4 games into the season, and having a hard time catching up to the rest of the league after missing 15 games bc of it.

Dont worry about his career, he might have not earned it as of the end of this season, but wait till end of next season when the new contract kicks in, then tell me if he is worth it or not.

- DDM-Coga


I certainly don't discount that he had a great rookie season and had won the calder (as did Tyler Myers, Steve Mason, etc did) but using the logic that his rookie season earned him that deal makes no season.

You can make excuses all you want for a down year but that doesn't change the fact that it happened.

If Huberdeau puts up 30 points next year and is injured a portion of it, would you say he still deserves a 5.7 AAV over 7 years.
FLYERSROCK!
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Anyone who takes Andrew MacDonald's contract will instantly become my 3rd favourite team, SK
Joined: 09.09.2008

Aug 15 @ 3:55 PM ET
Terrible contract.

Messes up the whole league.

How do you give him more than Tavares???

Insanity.

I personally don't know if he could truly be considered a top line player yet. Top 6 forsure but points wise he isn't there yet and may never be.

- Aerchon

SMFH
that could be said about i think 20 other players who Tavares is better than.
Dont bring a steal on a contract into a discussion like this, because thats flat out stupid and senseless
goavsgo10
Colorado Avalanche
Location: Landeskoging, NY
Joined: 02.14.2010

Aug 15 @ 3:56 PM ET
Hahaha fantastic contract. I like Landeskog but he's done absolutely zero in his career to earn that contract. And I'm not going to bring up point totals because I'm the first to point out, points are certainly not everything, but there's no way to justify that contract.

In a couple years it may look great, or it may not if he's just a 3rd liner on the Avs.

- SameOld


What do you mean he's done nothing in his career? He won the Calder Trophy you goon. Granted he had a soft 2013-2014 season, but it was his first year as captain and that leadership transition takes some getting used to. Also, there is something to be said about investing in good stand up players who give back to the community and is looked up to by many. Mature/Talented 19 year olds don't grow on trees.
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Aug 15 @ 3:57 PM ET
Terrible contract.

Messes up the whole league.

How do you give him more than Tavares???

Insanity.

I personally don't know if he could truly be considered a top line player yet. Top 6 forsure but points wise he isn't there yet and may never be.

- Aerchon


End of the day, new CBA vs old CBA, Tavares signed that in the Old CBA, I didnt think we would see a 8m or 9m contracts in the new CBA either, but the Penguins and Flyers showed me that the league is going to spend jsut the same regardless
blizzzard
New Jersey Devils
Location: Orillia, ON
Joined: 07.02.2011

Aug 15 @ 3:58 PM ET
I certainly don't discount that he had a great rookie season and had won the calder (as did Tyler Myers, Steve Mason, etc did) but using the logic that his rookie season earned him that deal makes no season.

You can make excuses all you want for a down year but that doesn't change the fact that it happened.

If Huberdeau puts up 30 points next year and is injured a portion of it, would you say he still deserves a 5.7 AAV over 7 years.

- SameOld

You pay for Potential in most cases and there is flaws to it but its basically all you can go off of. If they are right which most would probably agree there is a good chance then they hit a home run if not they have a guy making a little bit to much which every team has
FLYERSROCK!
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Anyone who takes Andrew MacDonald's contract will instantly become my 3rd favourite team, SK
Joined: 09.09.2008

Aug 15 @ 3:59 PM ET
Why in the world would anyone look at the salary and not the cap hit.. The NHL has a salary cap.
- SameOld

Yep and the avs are at the bottom of the cap year after year
The breakdown of Landeskog's #avs extension is $4.5M, $4.5M, $5.5M, $6M, $6M, $6M and $6.5M.
Landeskog will absolutely be a 4.5M player for the 14/15 and 15/16 seasons. Just like he will be a 5.5M player in the 16/17 season, and so on and so forth

its become pretty clear that GM's want to lock their all star young franchise players up to LTC. Hall, Eberle, Duchene, E. Kane, i could go on for awhile

Get used to it. GM's have been paying their young franchise players for the future, not now. in the future, this will absolutely be a great contract.
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Aug 15 @ 4:00 PM ET
I certainly don't discount that he had a great rookie season and had won the calder (as did Tyler Myers, Steve Mason, etc did) but using the logic that his rookie season earned him that deal makes no season.

You can make excuses all you want for a down year but that doesn't change the fact that it happened.

If Huberdeau puts up 30 points next year and is injured a portion of it, would you say he still deserves a 5.7 AAV over 7 years.

- SameOld


Honestly probably close to it, bc you are investing long term in a player that you are committed to and believe is the future of your franchise. Do you risk bridge dealing him and him making more if he has another stellar year, or potentialyl holding out and having him offer sheeted?

Last year honestly threw everything off, a half season is completely different thatn a normal length season. Do you guys make the playoffs? Does Kadri and Franson have such impressive numbers and are still holding out bc of it? I dont take too much stock out of the numberst that happened around the league alst year.
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

Aug 15 @ 4:02 PM ET
Nothing against the kid, but 7 years for a 20 year old with less than 120 games under his belt is ridiculous. These contracts are just horrid, but then again I'm not surprised as it's a result of players not having the security they once had when it came to contracts.
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Aug 15 @ 4:05 PM ET
Nothing against the kid, but 7 years for a 20 year old with less than 120 games under his belt is ridiculous. These contracts are just horrid, but then again I'm not surprised as it's a result of players not having the security they once had when it came to contracts.
- Lahey


I think its a good move for brining back the fan base as well. Show the fans that the Avs are committed to winning/financially again. Let them get familiar with the young kids as they are going to be around for a long time now.

Duchene and Landeskog are so loved in that community, now you can market them for the long term, good exciting young players witht the old stars running the show now, it will only help bring fans back into the arena.
kaptaan
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Turning a new Leaf, CA
Joined: 09.29.2010

Aug 15 @ 4:09 PM ET
Hodgson hasn't proved himself worth that kind of deal.the guy is a huge liability defensively and one of the easiest players in the league to score against based on stats. Hodgson deserves a bridge deal only.
iecarumba3
Colorado Avalanche
Location: , WA
Joined: 07.12.2011

Aug 15 @ 4:17 PM ET
Most avs fans are going to be ok with this contract. The team is not going out and signing new outside talent, so best keep the talent you have signed long term, and as stated before keep the fan base happy and feeling that you are not afraid to spend some money on key players. There is always risk with any long term deal.
MattDuchene9
Colorado Avalanche
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 06.29.2012

Aug 15 @ 4:22 PM ET
It bothers me that all the people who aren't avs fans think its a bad contract because he hasn't produced a point a game season yet. He won the Calder his rookie year and was plagued by a head injury last year. He's our captain for petes sake. Definitely a good contract and I'm very happy to see we are locking up our young guns for a while
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Aug 15 @ 4:23 PM ET
Dumb move by Avs. He now will be a UFA in his prime
MattDuchene9
Colorado Avalanche
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 06.29.2012

Aug 15 @ 4:24 PM ET
No way hodgson is worth that kind of money btw. I'm sure everyone hear knows that and yes it's a risky contract but he's a big part of our future and cap space is on our side.
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