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KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people
Joined: 01.10.2008

Aug 5 @ 8:45 PM ET
Checko- no brainer
Yosimar89
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 05.11.2010

Aug 5 @ 8:50 PM ET
I hope Stolarz can win the London job first.
- ob18

GP Mins W L SOL SOG SV GA GAA SV% SO
Thatcher Demko 2 60:07 0 1 0 42 34 8 7.98 .810 0
Anthony Stolarz 2 59:31 0 1 0 24 22 2 2.02 .917 0
Jon Gillies 2 59:42 0 0 0 30 27 3 3.02 .900 0
Collin Olson 2 58:33 1 1 0 32 29 3 3.07 .906 0


Looking good for Stollie so far for the WJC's hopes, even though he's faced the least amount of shots.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Aug 5 @ 8:54 PM ET
GP Mins W L SOL SOG SV GA GAA SV% SO
Thatcher Demko 2 60:07 0 1 0 42 34 8 7.98 .810 0
Anthony Stolarz 2 59:31 0 1 0 24 22 2 2.02 .917 0
Jon Gillies 2 59:42 0 0 0 30 27 3 3.02 .900 0
Collin Olson 2 58:33 1 1 0 32 29 3 3.07 .906 0


Looking good for Stollie so far for the WJC's hopes, even though he's faces the least amount of shots.

- Yosimar89


I still wonder if Alex Nedeljkovic will get a shot, he is currently representing the USA in the Ivan Hlinka tournament. Even though they lost today 3 - 2 to Finland.

Not sure if he'll also play tomorrow against Russia.
LJF
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Jersey Baby Jersey
Joined: 04.17.2009

Aug 5 @ 9:00 PM ET
Emery I thought he was playing well before he got hurt. I think the cup turns out differently if he was playing.
Yosimar89
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 05.11.2010

Aug 5 @ 9:00 PM ET
I still wonder if Alex Nedeljkovic will get a shot, he is currently representing the USA in the Ivan Hlinka tournament. Even though they lost today 3 - 2 to Finland.

Not sure if he'll also play tomorrow against Russia.

- ob18

So he'd be an underager? I could see them doing that, i mean Campbell was i think. But still if he can somehow nail the London #1 job and does well, i think he's a lock for starter. Of course lots of things have to go right for that to happen (crossing fingers).
FlyerMike18
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.07.2009

Aug 5 @ 9:00 PM ET
I respect your point of view. Sure everything isn't black and white. Saying which would you rather have a team who wins a cup and then sucks for 10 years is dealing in a extreme hypotheticals. That very rarely happens.

Making the playoffs often means something, because to reach the ultimate goal that is step one.

Fans can enjoy rooting for their team any way they like. It's the right of any fan. If someone enjoys just making the playoffs and not reaching the pinnacle, that is fine by me. I'm not going to force my opinion down anyone's throat.

- PLindbergh31


definitely just an extreme hypothetical. and of course winning it all is a huge deal. that is definitely in the end what it's all about

i just feel like the whole "nothing matters except a cup/championship" mentality arises when people are too concerned about naysayers/ outsiders. it's tough to defend a successful yet non-championship season against poop-talking fans of other teams, and i think that skews people's opinions toward the negative end of the spectrum

but that doesn't mean that regular old winning doesn't matter. i don't hope the flyers win just so i can shutup the haters. i hope they win because i love watching hockey and they are the team i've always rooted for. and i get a little bit of enjoyment out of every win

i.e. ... there's no way i can say that these past 2 or 3 years haven't been much more enjoyable for rangers fans (compared to us). that might not mean everything, but it certainly means something
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Aug 5 @ 9:02 PM ET
So he'd be an underager? I could see them doing that, i mean Campbell was i think. But still if he can somehow nail the London #1 job and does well, i think he's a lock for starter. Of course lots of things have to go right for that to happen (crossing fingers).
- Yosimar89


I think he has a chance to be at worst the 3rd goalie, Plymouth in the OHL still will have a decent team for the upcoming season. He did well as a rookie last season.

http://www.plymouthwhaler....com/roster/show/id/10444

I do like the chances of Stolarz to make the USA WJC roster.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Aug 5 @ 9:05 PM ET
definitely just an extreme hypothetical. and of course winning it all is a huge deal. that is definitely in the end what it's all about

i just feel like the whole "nothing matters except a cup/championship" mentality arises when people are too concerned about naysayers/ outsiders. it's tough to defend a successful yet non-championship season against poop-talking fans of other teams, and i think that skews people's opinions toward the negative end of the spectrum

but that doesn't mean that regular old winning doesn't matter (at least to me). i don't hope the flyers win just so i can shutup the haters. i hope they win because i love watching hockey and they are the team i've always rooted for. and i get a little bit of enjoyment out of every win

- FlyerMike18


Very legit, and fair points. I agree with most of it. I feel when a team wins a championship it should buy a grace period for the team. Does that mean they can go out and be non-competitive for 5+ years? Of course not. But that is rarely the case in any sport.

The goal of any franchise in any sport should be simple, put a good product on the field, and be loyal to their paying customers. The Flyers do that, but I'm sorry going almost 4 decades without winning a Championship is too long.

Yosimar89
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 05.11.2010

Aug 5 @ 9:07 PM ET
I think he has a chance to be at worst the 3rd goalie, Plymouth in the OHL still will have a decent team for the upcoming season. He did well as a rookie last season.

http://www.plymouthwhaler....com/roster/show/id/10444

I do like the chances of Stolarz to make the USA WJC roster.

- ob18

Yep, even played more games than stollie did (of course he started in NCAA).

Even if Anthony can't win the job in london outright this year and they rotate 50/50, only way he doesnt make it, is if he absolutely bombs it numbers wise. Still i think London has a good team in front of him coming back (as usual).
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Aug 5 @ 9:08 PM ET
Yep, even played more games than stollie did (of course he started in NCAA).

Even if Anthony can't win the job in london outright this year and they rotate 50/50, only way he doesnt make it, is if he absolutely bombs it numbers wise. Still i think London has a good team in front of him coming back (as usual).

- Yosimar89


I plan on watching Plymouth vs London as they open their seasons against each other.
FlyerMike18
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.07.2009

Aug 5 @ 9:09 PM ET
Checko- no brainer
- KINGKENZO


agreed. at first i thought it was two selections and was mulling over the number two guy. but top guy is easy, imo
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Aug 5 @ 9:30 PM ET
i honestly disagree with that. not everything is about the history books. real fans spend a lot of time watching their team. it's almost impossible to watch a team that stinks year after year and remain passionate (although i guess eagles fans would have something to say about that.... (for a large portion of my life, at least))

sure, from an outsiders perspective, only a championship means anything. but when you are in the thick of it and following a team closely year after year, it's not so easy to boil down like that

just my opinion, though

- FlyerMike18

did you just parentheses within a parentheses bro?

Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Aug 5 @ 10:01 PM ET
Very legit, and fair points. I agree with most of it. I feel when a team wins a championship it should buy a grace period for the team. Does that mean they can go out and be non-competitive for 5+ years? Of course not. But that is rarely the case in any sport.

The goal of any franchise in any sport should be simple, put a good product on the field, and be loyal to their paying customers. The Flyers do that, but I'm sorry going almost 4 decades without winning a Championship is too long.

- PLindbergh31

Then why not cash in your chips and find another team to follow that wins more frequently? A team like Manchester United is probably more your taste. But then there'd be little to complain about...
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Aug 5 @ 10:07 PM ET
Then why not cash in your chips and find another team to follow that wins more frequently? A team like Manchester United is probably more your taste. But then there'd be little to complain about...
- Flyskippy


Wayne Rooney was only rated an 87 in the last EA Sports video game. Wankers.
FlyerMike18
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.07.2009

Aug 5 @ 10:22 PM ET
did you just parentheses within a parentheses bro?
- Crimsoninja


got a little carried away
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Aug 5 @ 10:28 PM ET
got a little carried away
- FlyerMike18

Should've (Would've [Could've]) used the old brackets within the parentheses trick.
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Aug 5 @ 10:28 PM ET
Wayne Rooney was only rated an 87 in the last EA Sports video game. Wankers.
- Jsaquella



EDIT:
Winning
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Put in Matt Read
Joined: 03.29.2011

Aug 5 @ 10:47 PM ET
Flyers Team of the 2000s: Goaltender

Robert Esche
Brian Boucher
Sergei Bobrovsky
Jeff Hackett
Antero Niittymäki
Ilya Bryzgalov
Roman Cechmanek
Martin Biron
Michael Leighton
Steve Mason
Ray Emery
Sean Burke

God bless us
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Aug 5 @ 11:22 PM ET
2Real 2Easy
- Flyskippy

hey berry bet me about the kings and never followed through
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Aug 5 @ 11:23 PM ET
Checko- no brainer
- KINGKENZO

sure if you like soft serve ice cream
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Aug 5 @ 11:26 PM ET
hey berry bet me about the kings and never followed through
- 2Real

actually not that i think about it he left the site
wilsonecho91
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A dream to some...a nightmare to others, AK
Joined: 11.13.2007

Aug 6 @ 12:38 AM ET
Then why not cash in your chips and find another team to follow that wins more frequently? A team like Manchester United is probably more your taste. But then there'd be little to complain about...
- Flyskippy


Moyes isn't going to lead like Fergie. Rooney is more or less a blue. Plenty to gripe about.
dingo8urbaby
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.02.2009

Aug 6 @ 5:10 AM ET
Bill Meltzer: Meltzer's Musings: WJC Camp Day 2, Goalie of the 2000s
- bmeltzer

I choose none of these goalies, that's how bad the Flyers are with goaltenders.
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Aug 6 @ 7:17 AM ET
Moyes isn't going to lead like Fergie. Rooney is more or less a blue. Plenty to gripe about.
- wilsonecho91

*roots for Everton, the Oakland A's of the EPL*

*misses Moyes (with Adge)*
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Aug 6 @ 7:18 AM ET
I choose none of these goalies, that's how bad the Flyers are with goaltenders.
- dingo8urbaby

I hope you're prepared to accept a lot of empty netters.
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