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TheNugeIsHuge
Edmonton Oilers
Location: McJesus, AB
Joined: 01.09.2013

Aug 1 @ 6:04 PM ET
Its virtually an identical package...
Gags>Bozak
Reilly=Klef
Khaira>Biggs

- Iggysbff


Gags>Bozak
Rielly~>~Klefbom (close)
Khaira=Biggs

Same value. Khaira's NHLE was 23P. Biggs NHLE was 22P. Both 6'3. I'd say pretty close prospects.

Rielly beats out Klefbom in that he has the potential to be really good, but it's likely they both top out as top pairing guys IMO
TheNugeIsHuge
Edmonton Oilers
Location: McJesus, AB
Joined: 01.09.2013

Aug 1 @ 6:09 PM ET
geez, what was Yost thinking with this MDZ deal. 1 year of Hemsky and Grebeshkov for MDZ and a 2nd. Could get way more out of MDZ.

Although I do like
MDZ-Petry
Smid-J Schultz
Ference-Belov
Larsen/Potter
Ihatebrianburke
Edmonton Oilers
Location: edmonton, AB
Joined: 12.19.2010

Aug 1 @ 6:21 PM ET
geez, what was Yost thinking with this MDZ deal. 1 year of Hemsky and Grebeshkov for MDZ and a 2nd. Could get way more out of MDZ.

Although I do like
MDZ-Petry
Smid-J Schultz
N Schultz-Belov
Larsen/Potter

- TheNugeIsHuge

Where's Ference?
TheNugeIsHuge
Edmonton Oilers
Location: McJesus, AB
Joined: 01.09.2013

Aug 1 @ 6:32 PM ET
Where's Ference?
- Ihatebrianburke


(frank)
Steven_Dean
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: KL
Joined: 07.10.2012

Aug 1 @ 6:39 PM ET
Its virtually an identical package...
Gags>Bozak
Reilly=Klef
Khaira>Biggs

- Iggysbff


Lol.
TheLeafsInsider
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Choke Central, ON
Joined: 03.30.2011

Aug 1 @ 6:40 PM ET
he hasn't exactly progressed as planned since his draft year. Wasn't even a PPG in the OHL this year.

Last year Cloutier said Tyler Biggs is a guy you build your team around. I think he reads 6'3 and thinks he's s superstar

- TheNugeIsHuge


Looks like he progressed just fine to me...
TheLeafsInsider
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Choke Central, ON
Joined: 03.30.2011

Aug 1 @ 6:40 PM ET
Lol.
- Steven_Dean


Yeah pretty much my reaction.
Morris
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS
Joined: 07.18.2007

Aug 1 @ 6:45 PM ET
Yeah pretty much my reaction.
- TheLeafsInsider

speak up you two. What exactly is it you're hating so much? The Khaira/Biggs comparison?
TheNugeIsHuge
Edmonton Oilers
Location: McJesus, AB
Joined: 01.09.2013

Aug 1 @ 6:45 PM ET
Looks like he progressed just fine to me...
- TheLeafsInsider


a first round pick in 2011 that wasn't even a PPG in 2013? Fringe 2nd line potential IMO
TheNugeIsHuge
Edmonton Oilers
Location: McJesus, AB
Joined: 01.09.2013

Aug 1 @ 6:46 PM ET
speak up you two. What exactly is it you're hating so much? The Khaira/Biggs comparison?
- Morris


I think my post at the top of the page was more than reasonable
TheLeafsInsider
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Choke Central, ON
Joined: 03.30.2011

Aug 1 @ 6:53 PM ET
speak up you two. What exactly is it you're hating so much? The Khaira/Biggs comparison?
- Morris


Klefbom is not equal to Reilly, not changing my opinion on that. And I don't really know anything about Khaira so I can't judge that one. Like literally nothing about him.

TheLeafsInsider
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Choke Central, ON
Joined: 03.30.2011

Aug 1 @ 6:55 PM ET
a first round pick in 2011 that wasn't even a PPG in 2013? Fringe 2nd line potential IMO
- TheNugeIsHuge


He was never drafted to be a first line player, like I said earlier there is nothing wrong with becoming a Clarkson, Clutterbuck or Ott type player. Those guys have value and I think that's more along the lines of what Leafs fans expect out of him.

Don't see what he's done to change that projection.
icecubz
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: T.O. aka LeafsNation
Joined: 12.02.2007

Aug 1 @ 7:00 PM ET
Its virtually an identical package...
Gags>Bozak
Reilly=Klef
Khaira>Biggs

- Iggysbff


Rielly = Klefbom ?



take your homer glasses off
TheNugeIsHuge
Edmonton Oilers
Location: McJesus, AB
Joined: 01.09.2013

Aug 1 @ 7:03 PM ET
Klefbom is not equal to Reilly, not changing my opinion on that. And I don't really know anything about Khaira so I can't judge that one. Like literally nothing about him.
- TheLeafsInsider


Prospect rankings have Klefbom as a better prospect than Nurse. Nurse and Rielly were both the 2nd picked D in their draft year, both ranked 5-9. I'd say Nurse, Klefbom, and Rielly are right around each other's ranks.

http://www.puckprospectus...rticle.php?articleid=1562

Don't have to convince you. You're a leaf fan. You don't want to hear it
TheNugeIsHuge
Edmonton Oilers
Location: McJesus, AB
Joined: 01.09.2013

Aug 1 @ 7:05 PM ET
He was never drafted to be a first line player, like I said earlier there is nothing wrong with becoming a Clarkson, Clutterbuck or Ott type player. Those guys have value and I think that's more along the lines of what Leafs fans expect out of him.

Don't see what he's done to change that projection.

- TheLeafsInsider


I'm thinking if he's gonna be having 40+P seasons like Clarkson and Ott, he's gonna have to get a little more than 53P in the OHL on a team as good as Oshawa.
TheLeafsInsider
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Choke Central, ON
Joined: 03.30.2011

Aug 1 @ 7:08 PM ET
I'm thinking if he's gonna be having 40+P seasons like Clarkson and Ott, he's gonna have to get a little more than 53P in the OHL on a team as good as Oshawa.
- TheNugeIsHuge


And I said he was a finished product when? Still developing obviously.
TheNugeIsHuge
Edmonton Oilers
Location: McJesus, AB
Joined: 01.09.2013

Aug 1 @ 7:11 PM ET
And I said he was a finished product when? Still developing obviously.
- TheLeafsInsider


Not showing good signs obviously
Lipchitz
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 01.18.2008

Aug 1 @ 7:12 PM ET
Prospect rankings have Klefbom as a better prospect than Nurse. Nurse and Rielly were both the 2nd picked D in their draft year, both ranked 5-9. I'd say Nurse, Klefbom, and Rielly are right around each other's ranks.

http://www.puckprospectus...rticle.php?articleid=1562

Don't have to convince you. You're a leaf fan. You don't want to hear it

- TheNugeIsHuge


Morgan Rielly was drafted 5th and fell due to injury. How the hell was he ranked 5-9? He was a top 3 talent and us Leaf fans are lucky he dropped. Nurse and Klefbom aren't even Schenn quality prospects. Rielly is a notch above all of them.
TheNugeIsHuge
Edmonton Oilers
Location: McJesus, AB
Joined: 01.09.2013

Aug 1 @ 7:21 PM ET
Morgan Rielly was drafted 5th and fell due to injury. How the hell was he ranked 5-9? He was a top 3 talent and us Leaf fans are lucky he dropped. Nurse and Klefbom aren't even Schenn quality prospects. Rielly is a notch above all of them.
- Lipchitz




TO fans were outraged when they took Rielly. Grigorenko, possibly TO's future 1C was available and tons of leafs fans were pissed.

Man oh man. I was being generous. The same offensive Dman who had 4P in 22 AHL games was a top 3 talent. That's a joke.
Lipchitz
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 01.18.2008

Aug 1 @ 7:22 PM ET


TO fans were outraged when they took Rielly. Grigorenko, possibly TO's future 1C was available and tons of leafs fans were pissed.

Man oh man. I was being generous. The same offensive Dman who had 4P in 22 AHL games was a top 3 talent. That's a joke.

- TheNugeIsHuge


I was being nice with the Schenn comp.
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Aug 1 @ 7:23 PM ET
Morgan Rielly was drafted 5th and fell due to injury. How the hell was he ranked 5-9? He was a top 3 talent and us Leaf fans are lucky he dropped. Nurse and Klefbom aren't even Schenn quality prospects. Rielly is a notch above all of them.
- Lipchitz

My god... Leaf fans...
MLeafs81
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Sundin, Sakic, Nolan, Kamensky, ect that's a comparable group toHall, Ebs, Nuge and Yak-Jeropotato, ON
Joined: 07.16.2012

Aug 1 @ 7:25 PM ET
Double post
MLeafs81
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Sundin, Sakic, Nolan, Kamensky, ect that's a comparable group toHall, Ebs, Nuge and Yak-Jeropotato, ON
Joined: 07.16.2012

Aug 1 @ 7:25 PM ET


TO fans were outraged when they took Rielly. Grigorenko, possibly TO's future 1C was available and tons of leafs fans were pissed.

Man oh man. I was being generous. The same offensive Dman who had 4P in 22 AHL games was a top 3 talent. That's a joke.

- TheNugeIsHuge



Klefbom with a whopping total of 7 points in 67 SEL games Across 3 seasons and has shown no progress whatsoever in that league now that's a joke
TheNugeIsHuge
Edmonton Oilers
Location: McJesus, AB
Joined: 01.09.2013

Aug 1 @ 7:26 PM ET
Morgan Rielly was drafted 5th and fell due to injury. How the hell was he ranked 5-9? He was a top 3 talent and us Leaf fans are lucky he dropped. Nurse and Klefbom aren't even Schenn quality prospects. Rielly is a notch above all of them.
- Lipchitz


http://www.hockeyprospect...rticle.php?articleid=1305 ranked 7th

http://nhlnumbers.com/201...date-yakupov-is-unanimous ranked 7th

http://www.tsn.ca/draftcentre/feature/?id=9825 ranked 8th

http://www.sportsnet.ca/h...hl-draft-top30-prospects/ ranked 5th

not to mention 2012 was a weaker draft
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Aug 1 @ 7:27 PM ET
Rielly = Klefbom ?



take your homer glasses off

- icecubz

Right back at ya. Both are top notch d prospects that project to be top pair.
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