I think some are frustrated because the obvious area that needed an upgrade going into the off season was the D.

Now it's looking possible that it could end up being downgraded in favor of adding to goaltending and forwards.
- robin_steele264

Leafs have plenty of good D prospects though, and very few forward prospects with top 6 potential.

D will upgrade naturally over next 2 years. I'm glad they haven't gone out and clogged it up with long term deals.

Deep breath Leaf fans.

Worst case scenario - the Leafs trade Liles to team X and eat half of his cap hit/salary. Yes that's a 1.9 milly cap penalty for the next 3 years (Better than the buyout) but an additional 1.9 in cap space to sign Franson, Fraser and Kadri.

Liles at a salary of 2.1, 2.1 and 1.4 has to be attractive to someone, no?

If we can manage to Keep Franson and lose Liles we will be fine

Last season we started with Holzer and Koska, this season Ranger and Gardiner. thats an upgrade already
- senstroll

I think it was pretty obvious D was a big sore spot at the end of last season too. So far, Nonis has improved it by adding Paul Ranger, but possibly at the expense of Franson. I really really hope that's not how this turns out.

ummm,.......
- burn

-5 this past season, he's been outhussled on several occasions.
He's replaceable..dont kid yourself.

Bozak - playmaker, good on the draws and for whatever the reason they work well together.

Grabovski is not a typical center, he's a shoot first and also puck hog. Having him play with Kessel is a waste of Kessel who is the teams best player.

I'm sorry you lost your favourite player dude, Grabo was a nice player for the team for a while. Time changes and the team evolved.
- Mr_Smokey

evidence points to both being more productive apart.

Yeah, but I was told we didn't upgrade!!!! Are you telling me otherwise!!!
- burn

Without Franson the D is worse IMO.

Without Franson the D is worse IMO.
- robin_steele264

Oh it totally is.

-5 this past season, he's been outhussled on several occasions.
He's replaceable..dont kid yourself.
- Fakepartofme

Without Franson the D is worse IMO.
- robin_steele264

Sure it is

Without Franson the D is worse IMO.
- robin_steele264

Without you these threads are worse IMO.

Without Franson the D is worse IMO.
- robin_steele264

Yeah, and he's not gone yet.

I think we all agree, Franson is one of if not top D man, still can get better

Deep breath Leaf fans.

Worst case scenario - the Leafs trade Liles to team X and eat half of his cap hit/salary. Yes that's a 1.9 milly cap penalty for the next 3 years (Better than the buyout) but an additional 1.9 in cap space to sign Franson, Fraser and Kadri.

Liles at a salary of 2.1, 2.1 and 1.4 has to be attractive to someone, no?
- The Law

Thanks for trying to make me feel better, but you can trade a player and eat his cap hit too!? Has that ever been done before?

I think we all agree, Franson is one of if not top D man, still can get better
- PinkSock

the only thing we all agree is that this post doesn't make sense.

Yeah, and he's not gone yet.
- burn

No he's not. But some might be getting frustrated due the the current contract/cap situation Nonis is in regarding him.

Without you these threads are worse IMO.
- gravyface

I try

Thanks for trying to make me feel better, but you can trade a player and eat his cap hit too!? Has that ever been done before?
- 1979AD

We did it with LA for the Bernier deal. Can keep 50% (i think )

Bye Fraser, or Franson, or somebody else, we hardly knew ye...unless it is Kulemin who is the longest remaining player on the team...whom we also hardly knew ye!

Bozak - playmaker, good on the draws and for whatever the reason they work well together.

Grabovski is not a typical center, he's a shoot first and also puck hog. Having him play with Kessel is a waste of Kessel who is the teams best player.

I'm sorry you lost your favourite player dude, Grabo was a nice player for the team for a while. Time changes and the team evolved.
- Mr_Smokey

There is no statistical data showing Bozak and Kessel "working well together". you are talking out your ass if you believe that, and I dont care if they make a good xbox 360 team. Bozak wins 1 or 2 more draws a game than Grabovski. the limited stats show Kessel had better success in regards to production when with Grabovski.

My pref was to lose both of them and Sign a FA like Lecavalier, I am not a Grabvoski fan, but if you make me pick between him and Bozak its a no brainer.

No he's not. But some might be getting frustrated due the the current contract/cap situation Nonis is in regarding him.
- robin_steele264

Hi. I'm frustrated due to the current contract/cap situation Nonis is in regarding Cody Franson. Can you help?

Thanks for trying to make me feel better, but you can trade a player and eat his cap hit too!? Has that ever been done before?
- 1979AD

You keep salary - you also keep cap hit - it's the ONLY way it works under the CBA. Burkie's new rule.

If you keep 50% of salary you keep 50% of cap hit. No other way to do it.

We did it with LA for the Bernier deal. Can keep 50% (i think )
- burn

News to me - please explain. LA is eating part of Bernier's 2.9m cap hit?

Hi. I'm frustrated due to the current contract/cap situation Nonis is in regarding Cody Franson. Can you help?
- 1979AD

Trading him for Hemsky seems like the best option

I think we all agree, Franson is one of if not top D man, still can get better
- PinkSock

I think there are many of us that don't fit your description of "we".

I've got him in 4th. Rising ....but in 4th.

-5 this past season, he's been outhussled on several occasions.
He's replaceable..dont kid yourself.
- Fakepartofme

I find he goes through the motions, and rarely does he ever drive the net like he used to. Basically, how JVR drove the net this past season, Nik used to do it too. I don't know where his balls went, but I never see him on the doorstep anymore. And I'm with you, he was outhussled a lot last season, maybe it was learning a new system, I dunno.