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The_Vark
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.21.2011

Jul 30 @ 9:49 AM ET
so 1 mil is ok but 1.1-1.2 isnt lol

im not going to argue 100k out of 60+ million cap

fraser did his job as a third pairing d man and dropped the mits and blocked shots, il just leave it at that.

- big_dion

In a cap world u kinda have to
Leafland
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: MATTHEW 20:16 "So the last will be first, and the first will be last.", ON
Joined: 10.25.2011

Jul 30 @ 9:49 AM ET
and orr is proven, where as Fraser isn't nearly as so. He shouldn't be paid like a guy that is guaranteed a spot when he's clearly not.
- burn

Fraser didn't prove anything last year? He didn't earn a spot on this team?
The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

Jul 30 @ 9:50 AM ET
over a mil is an overpayment.....
- burn


If I'm Fraser's agent I'm holding up McQuaid's contract as my comparable. Pretty similar players, same age, 3rd pairing tough guys. McQuaid got 3 years at 1.55/yr.

If I'm Nonis I'm holding up a photo of the giant Ring on McQuaid's finger and a photo of Fraser's CT Scan of his skull - one of these things ain't like the other.

I'm guessing he gets about 1.25/yr if it's a 2 year contract.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jul 30 @ 9:50 AM ET
so 1 mil is ok but 1.1-1.2 isnt lol

im not going to argue 100k out of 60+ million cap

fraser did his job as a third pairing d man and dropped the mits and blocked shots, il just leave it at that.

- big_dion




there are plenty of guys who are more proven and better than Fraser playing on the 3rd pair making that (1.1-1.3) I don't think fraser is equal to mcquaid.
The_Vark
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.21.2011

Jul 30 @ 9:51 AM ET
so 1 mil is ok but 1.1-1.2 isnt lol

im not going to argue 100k out of 60+ million cap

fraser did his job as a third pairing d man and dropped the mits and blocked shots, il just leave it at that.

- big_dion

I think hes a great bottom pairing guy but nothing more
big_dion
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I've been successful in business for years which is why I can be on hockeybuzz. - HH
Joined: 08.23.2010

Jul 30 @ 9:51 AM ET
and orr is proven, where as Fraser isn't nearly as so. He shouldn't be paid like a guy that is guaranteed a spot when he's clearly not.
- burn


orr is proven what? 4th line fighter who sits 1/3 of the season and plays 3-6 mins the other nights?

fraser plays more minutes, harder minutes, and fights. he should make at least as much as Orr IMO.

TonkaPhaneuf
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Where'd canucks fans go? -daeth Too busy with the lotto simulator - seagull
Joined: 11.22.2012

Jul 30 @ 9:51 AM ET
How is a guy supposed to get any work done on arbitration day!? Come on less than a milly! Hockey buzz seems to always be open on my computer at work, i wonder if i could technically say i get paid to peruse the buzz...
The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

Jul 30 @ 9:52 AM ET
exactly, people need to look at comparables around the league, not what fits into their capgeek prediction.
- big_dion


For arbitration the only comparables they can use are RFA contracts not UFA's.
big_dion
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I've been successful in business for years which is why I can be on hockeybuzz. - HH
Joined: 08.23.2010

Jul 30 @ 9:52 AM ET
I think hes a great bottom pairing guy but nothing more
- The_Vark


so you honestly think hes worth a mil but not 1.2?

you would let him walk because of 200k?

big_dion
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I've been successful in business for years which is why I can be on hockeybuzz. - HH
Joined: 08.23.2010

Jul 30 @ 9:53 AM ET
For arbitration the only comparables they can use are RFA contracts not UFA's.
- The Law


well im going back to work lol

ive said my 2 cents!
vermie22
Joined: 07.13.2011

Jul 30 @ 9:53 AM ET
I read somewhere that if the player elects arbitration then the team gets to select whether it's a 1 or 2 year deal.
- The Law


Now that you mention that, I vaguely remember reading something along those lines as well.
BingoLady
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Ultimate Warrior, NB
Joined: 07.15.2009

Jul 30 @ 9:54 AM ET
Leafs sign Mark Fraser to a one-year deal worth $1.275, per SN
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Jul 30 @ 9:56 AM ET
What time is the hearing?
BingoLady
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Ultimate Warrior, NB
Joined: 07.15.2009

Jul 30 @ 9:56 AM ET
What time is the hearing?
- systemtool

Tim Wharnsby ‏@WharnsbyCBC 1m

#Leafs D Mark Fraser has avoided salary arbitration, agreeing to 1 yr deal worth $1,275M.
big_dion
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I've been successful in business for years which is why I can be on hockeybuzz. - HH
Joined: 08.23.2010

Jul 30 @ 9:56 AM ET
Leafs sign Mark Fraser to a one-year deal worth $1.275, per SN
- BingoLady


1.1-1.2

was i that far off?

and buddy said 1.3 and you gave him poop.

oh to be a leaf fan.
big_dion
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I've been successful in business for years which is why I can be on hockeybuzz. - HH
Joined: 08.23.2010

Jul 30 @ 9:57 AM ET
the vark and burn.

you 2 should be ashamed!
BingoLady
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Ultimate Warrior, NB
Joined: 07.15.2009

Jul 30 @ 9:57 AM ET
the vark and burn.

you 2 should be ashamed!

- big_dion

The_Vark
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.21.2011

Jul 30 @ 9:58 AM ET
so you honestly think hes worth a mil but not 1.2?

you would let him walk because of 200k?

- big_dion

Now that we have ranger yes
vermie22
Joined: 07.13.2011

Jul 30 @ 9:59 AM ET
Tim Wharnsby ‏@WharnsbyCBC 1m

#Leafs D Mark Fraser has avoided salary arbitration, agreeing to 1 yr deal worth $1,275M.

- BingoLady


So when does Liles get traded?
The_Vark
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.21.2011

Jul 30 @ 9:59 AM ET
the vark and burn.

you 2 should be ashamed!

- big_dion

I am
big_dion
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I've been successful in business for years which is why I can be on hockeybuzz. - HH
Joined: 08.23.2010

Jul 30 @ 9:59 AM ET
Now that we have ranger yes
- The_Vark


well we got ranger and fraser now
big_dion
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I've been successful in business for years which is why I can be on hockeybuzz. - HH
Joined: 08.23.2010

Jul 30 @ 10:00 AM ET
I am
- The_Vark


lol

all good, liles is on his way out, or sadly, we dont sign franson and if thats the case i hope we get a good player(prospect) in return.
The_Vark
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.21.2011

Jul 30 @ 10:00 AM ET
the vark and burn.

you 2 should be ashamed!

- big_dion

Still better then1.3
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jul 30 @ 10:00 AM ET
exactly, people need to look at comparables around the league, not what fits into their capgeek prediction.
- big_dion



I have, and 1.3 mil isn't right.
The_Vark
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.21.2011

Jul 30 @ 10:01 AM ET
well we got ranger and fraser now
- big_dion

So jml or franson are out
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