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The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

Jul 29 @ 5:19 PM ET
Jets just screwed the Leafs with that Bogo contract. Franson gets 5 mill per now for sure... Fraser probably 1.5 mill...
- CarlitoBrigante


He's a RFA, no arbitration, and the Leafs control his rights for 2 more years. Franson doesn't get to make the Leafs do anything.

My guess, if all this 5 milly stuff is true, is that Rielly gets a nice long look at camp and through the first month. Gardiner, Phaneuf, maybe Rielly - it's not like the Leafs are desperate for offensive dmen with questionable defensive abilities.
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Jul 29 @ 5:20 PM ET
**crickets




That ship has sailed my friend. I like PS more than most on this thread but the Leafs are now tied (anchored) to the SS Bozak.

- The Law


I know I am beating a dead horse, but I am over work for today, so anything to get some BS hockey trade talk again, I am all over it.

Will have to hand it to the Jets, did shell out some cash, but I am impressed they have kept all their valubale RFA's for long term deals. I like their top 6

Ladd Little Kane
Setoguchi, Jokinen/Scheifele, Wheeler
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Jul 29 @ 5:21 PM ET
I know I am beating a dead horse, but I am over work for today, so anything to get some BS hockey trade talk again, I am all over it.

Will have to hand it to the Jets, did shell out some cash, but I am impressed they have kept all their valubale RFA's for long term deals. I like their top 6

Ladd Little Kane
Setoguchi, Jokinen/Scheifele/Frolik/

- DDM-Coga


Puke worthy
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Jul 29 @ 5:21 PM ET
Puke worthy
- AdamFrench


forgot wheeler
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Jul 29 @ 5:23 PM ET
forgot wheeler
- DDM-Coga

Yes and Burmistrov...oh right...Claude Noel ran him out of town pretty quick too.
The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

Jul 29 @ 5:24 PM ET
I know I am beating a dead horse, but I am over work for today, so anything to get some BS hockey trade talk again, I am all over it.

Will have to hand it to the Jets, did shell out some cash, but I am impressed they have kept all their valubale RFA's for long term deals. I like their top 6

Ladd Little Kane
Setoguchi, Jokinen/Scheifele, Wheeler

- DDM-Coga


Can Wheeler and Ladd keep putting up those numbers?
Cherry--Skoal
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 03.01.2010

Jul 29 @ 5:24 PM ET
bogosian is a stay at home D?

didnt the jets try him out on the wing?
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Jul 29 @ 5:27 PM ET
bogosian is a stay at home D?

didnt the jets try him out on the wing?

- Cherry--Skoal

I think you're thinking of Brent "Can't Defend" Burns
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Jul 29 @ 5:27 PM ET
Yes and Burmistrov...oh right...Claude Noel ran him out of town pretty quick too.
- AdamFrench


That one hurts for the Jets, I liked Burmistrov, he sounded like he was a good kid too. Family is from Winnnipeg and there is countless stories of him playing on the outdoor rinks in the neighbourhood that he lived in, and always let little kids join him on the ice for a pick up game.
The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

Jul 29 @ 5:29 PM ET
Jets just screwed the Leafs with that Bogo contract. Franson gets 5 mill per now for sure... Fraser probably 1.5 mill...
- CarlitoBrigante


5 milly is the average over 7 years. He had 2 years of RFA so they paid a premium to lock him up for 5 UFA years. That means he's a 6 or 7 milly guy in the last handful of years and a 3 or 4 milly guy in the first couple.

Franson on long term might be worth 4.5ish; mid term 3.5-4.0ish; short term 3.0ish.

The Leafs can only give him the short term deal. If Franson can't get a long term deal a 1 year deal wouldn't be a bad option for him. Perform well this year and get paid big next summer.
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Jul 29 @ 5:30 PM ET
That one hurts for the Jets, I liked Burmistrov, he sounded like he was a good kid too. Family is from Winnnipeg and there is countless stories of him playing on the outdoor rinks in the neighbourhood that he lived in, and always let little kids join him on the ice for a pick up game.
- DDM-Coga

It comes with being rushed, then being sat, then being double sat despite producing more in 5 minutes less than a useless Jokinen. It's a shame, the kid was a master penalty killer in the OHL and was great in his own zone, but that didn't mean he was ready for the show at 18
twiztedmike
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.06.2007

Jul 29 @ 5:31 PM ET
It comes with being rushed, then being sat, then being double sat despite producing more in 5 minutes less than a useless Jokinen. It's a shame, the kid was a master penalty killer in the OHL and was great in his own zone, but that didn't mean he was ready for the show at 18
- AdamFrench

Great work Adam
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Jul 29 @ 5:32 PM ET
Great work Adam
- twiztedmike

I plan to highfive him at Sochi.
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Jul 29 @ 5:32 PM ET
It comes with being rushed, then being sat, then being double sat despite producing more in 5 minutes less than a useless Jokinen. It's a shame, the kid was a master penalty killer in the OHL and was great in his own zone, but that didn't mean he was ready for the show at 18
- AdamFrench


Letting him go is going to haunt them for years, giving Kyle wellwood ice time over him too was a big mistake.
twiztedmike
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.06.2007

Jul 29 @ 5:37 PM ET
I plan to highfive him at Sochi.
- AdamFrench

Great Analysis, Adam French
The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

Jul 29 @ 5:38 PM ET
Letting him go is going to haunt them for years, giving Kyle wellwood ice time over him too was a big fat mistake.
- DDM-Coga


Nicely done!
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: 1st rd exit is the new normal, ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Jul 29 @ 5:42 PM ET
Jets just screwed the Leafs with that Bogo contract. Franson gets 5 mill per now for sure... Fraser probably 1.5 mill...
- CarlitoBrigante


Agreed
LeafMan
Location: A proof is a proof. And when you have a good proof, it's because it's proven
Joined: 05.20.2007

Jul 29 @ 5:46 PM ET
Adam, you know better,

Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Jul 29 @ 5:50 PM ET
Adam, you know better,
- LeafMan

You don't understand Tobias Fumke.
twiztedmike
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.06.2007

Jul 29 @ 5:52 PM ET
Adam, you know better,
- LeafMan

Adam is my partner please dont judge us

edit: hes not plz ban him for 103159239 days
markmark
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 07.27.2010

Jul 29 @ 5:58 PM ET
You don't understand Tobias Fumke.
- AdamFrench


I was just about to tell everyone I blue myself.
gravyface
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I wouldn't even trade [Marner] for McDavid -- UsernameUnknown
Joined: 02.19.2009

Jul 29 @ 6:02 PM ET
Has Begosian actually done anything? I mean, his numbers keep going down, not up, since Atlanta.
twiztedmike
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.06.2007

Jul 29 @ 6:07 PM ET
Has Begosian actually done anything? I mean, his numbers keep going down, not up, since Atlanta.
- gravyface

his GPG average has increased each season
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Jul 29 @ 6:15 PM ET
Do people think Dion is still so overpaid? I laugh when people like Watters claims he's worth 4 million.
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Jul 29 @ 6:17 PM ET
Henrik Lundqvist was drafted 205th overall the same year that Rick DiPietro went 1st overall. goalies are the hardest players to judge in their draft years.
- DoubleDown


This.

Talking about draft positon years earlier for goalies is a worthless argument.
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