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Yeti1181
Referee
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I'm AWESOME, AB
Joined: 07.27.2012

Jul 29 @ 4:35 PM ET
Bogo is a more stay-at-home type, Phaneuf is more of an offensive D type.
- DoubleDown

That doesnt help your arguement much at all. So phaneuf is more well rounded and deserves more money. I dont think bogo is much better defensively than phaneuf
faceto27
Location: Burke: Best part of today is I
Joined: 01.21.2010

Jul 29 @ 4:35 PM ET
Josh Rimer ‏@JoshRimerHockey 3m

Cody Franson is a happy camper seeing what Bogosian got. Bogo's best yr is 5g+25a 2yrs ago in 65gm while Franson had 4g+25a in 45gm this yr
faceto27
Location: Burke: Best part of today is I
Joined: 01.21.2010

Jul 29 @ 4:35 PM ET
That doesnt help your arguement much at all. So phaneuf is more well rounded and deserves more money. I dont think bogo is much better defensively than phaneuf
- Yeti1181



Franson is going to be traded
mykokes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: RELEASE THE LATVIAN!, ON
Joined: 11.09.2009

Jul 29 @ 4:37 PM ET
That doesnt help your arguement much at all. So phaneuf is more well rounded and deserves more money. I dont think bogo is much better defensively than phaneuf
- Yeti1181


He isn't better defensively at all. Maybe someday, but not now.
Sammich
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: You're the fukin best Bellows!
Joined: 02.10.2011

Jul 29 @ 4:37 PM ET
right next to the tie domi water bottle
- DDM-Coga


both of them are more deserving than Geraldine Heaney
steve362
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: St. John's, NF
Joined: 07.07.2010

Jul 29 @ 4:39 PM ET
Franson is going to be traded
- faceto27


Does he warrent a first round pick?
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jul 29 @ 4:39 PM ET
Bogo is a more stay-at-home type, Phaneuf is more of an offensive D type.
- DoubleDown



yeah I don't think so.
D.Lemieux
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: TRADE ME RIGHT FRANKING NOW
Joined: 06.18.2012

Jul 29 @ 4:40 PM ET
Josh Rimer ‏@JoshRimerHockey 3m

Cody Franson is a happy camper seeing what Bogosian got. Bogo's best yr is 5g+25a 2yrs ago in 65gm while Franson had 4g+25a in 45gm this yr

- faceto27


You have to overpay to keep someone in The Peg. Have you ever been there? Surprised he didn't get 30 years $150 million.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jul 29 @ 4:40 PM ET
David Pagnotta ‏@TheFourthPeriod 3m

Jets get Bogosian locked up, 7-years, $36 million...

- faceto27



Franson wants 5, seems more reasonable now..... still can't afford.

mykokes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: RELEASE THE LATVIAN!, ON
Joined: 11.09.2009

Jul 29 @ 4:44 PM ET
Does he warrent a first round pick?
- steve362


If he wants to hold out, and some team offer sheets him for 5M plus, then I guess he is lol
faceto27
Location: Burke: Best part of today is I
Joined: 01.21.2010

Jul 29 @ 4:46 PM ET
Does he warrent a first round pick?
- steve362



Would love one...... doubt he fetches a first though.
steve362
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: St. John's, NF
Joined: 07.07.2010

Jul 29 @ 4:46 PM ET
If he wants to hold out, and some team offer sheets him for 5M plus, then I guess he is lol
- mykokes


I'll be okay if he gets offer sheeted haha.
markmark
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 07.27.2010

Jul 29 @ 4:48 PM ET
I'll be okay if he gets offer sheeted haha.
- steve362


With his contract demands that would awesome if someone offersheeted him!
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Jul 29 @ 4:53 PM ET
this is a decent explanation I could find

http://offsidesportsblog....n-oreilly-cut-in-pay.html

has to be 6.5, there is another option but its pricey also.

either way hes going to be expensive as a #3

- senstroll

Can you imagine if Colorado hadn't matched that offer sheet?

O'Reilly alone wouldn't have been enough to pull Calgary up from their crapitude, and they would have wound up giving Colorado another top-10 pick.


They could have taken another center to replace O'Reilly, or a D-man they desperately need.
The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

Jul 29 @ 4:58 PM ET
We will take Liles back, but only for a low end prospect and low pick, kind of painted yourself into a corner with your cap space
- DDM-Coga


Did someone close this deal?

Tell me someone closed this deal.

Please god tell me someone closed this deal.
Yeti1181
Referee
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I'm AWESOME, AB
Joined: 07.27.2012

Jul 29 @ 5:02 PM ET
Did someone close this deal?

Tell me someone closed this deal.

Please god tell me someone closed this deal.

- The Law

I did it has been allowed by hb gods
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Jul 29 @ 5:06 PM ET
Can you imagine if Colorado hadn't matched that offer sheet?

O'Reilly alone wouldn't have been enough to pull Calgary up from their crapitude, and they would have wound up giving Colorado another top-10 pick.


They could have taken another center to replace O'Reilly, or a D-man they desperately need.

- Feeling Glucky?


I think there is away to really soften his next contract's cap hit but its going to be a lot of money over a long term. next year he gets 6.5mill no questions asked, but if its over a 7-8 year deal, you can +/- salary by 35% from year to year and the greatest difference b/w the years in total from highest to lowest cant be more than 50%.

6.5/5.85/5.3/4.7/4.3/3.8/3.4/3.2 so from my understanding if you rolled back his salary every year by 10% you can bring his next contract to something like 37m over 8 years. Chances are he will never take it but if he really likes playing for Roy and wants to be an Av long term, he might buy in. Players have done crazier things
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Jul 29 @ 5:07 PM ET
Did someone close this deal?

Tell me someone closed this deal.

Please god tell me someone closed this deal.

- The Law


yup and next on the auction block is Stastny...what is your opening bid
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Jul 29 @ 5:09 PM ET
yup and next on the auction block is Stastny...what is your opening bid
- DDM-Coga

This:
Leafland
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: MATTHEW 20:16 "So the last will be first, and the first will be last.", ON
Joined: 10.25.2011

Jul 29 @ 5:10 PM ET
The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

Jul 29 @ 5:12 PM ET
Franson wants 5, seems more reasonable now..... still can't afford.
- burn


Crazy - last December he was a maybe to make the top 6 and some of us were okay with the idea that he just stay in Europe.

He played much better last year, but ....
- short season;
- simple defensive assignments;
- still skates like a baby deer;

I'm not saying he's not what he appears to be, but it'd sure be nice to have a larger sample size before paying him like a top 4 ....let alone a top pairing guy.

How long can he hold out for? There's a midseason signing deadline, no?
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jul 29 @ 5:15 PM ET
This:
- Feeling Glucky?



The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

Jul 29 @ 5:15 PM ET
yup and next on the auction block is Stastny...what is your opening bid
- DDM-Coga


**crickets




That ship has sailed my friend. I like PS more than most on this thread but the Leafs are now tied (anchored) to the SS Bozak.
CarlitoBrigante
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 01.22.2012

Jul 29 @ 5:15 PM ET
Jets just screwed the Leafs with that Bogo contract. Franson gets 5 mill per now for sure... Fraser probably 1.5 mill...
DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC
Joined: 07.28.2006

Jul 29 @ 5:19 PM ET
That doesnt help your arguement much at all. So phaneuf is more well rounded and deserves more money. I dont think bogo is much better defensively than phaneuf
- Yeti1181


im not arguing. im just saying they're different players.
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