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big_dion
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I've been successful in business for years which is why I can be on hockeybuzz. - HH
Joined: 08.23.2010

Jul 29 @ 3:41 PM ET
no but Kadri did
- Big_Lightnin


haha yep the dream was great last year.

bottom line is, carlyle completely diminished any value grabo had which in turn led to nonis not being able to trade him.

which to me, is a bad job.
Yeti1181
Referee
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I'm AWESOME, AB
Joined: 07.27.2012

Jul 29 @ 3:42 PM ET
Thats why they are trying him out as a winger with Duchene,
- DDM-Coga

Franson for o Reilly
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Jul 29 @ 3:42 PM ET


seriously?

- Big_Lightnin


yup thats Roys big plan to start the season. He is inspired at how Sakic and Forsberg used to play together like that in Key situations.

O'Reilly/Duchene/Pareteau
Landeskog/Stastny/Tanguay
Mcginn/MacKinnon/Downie

Thats the project lineup going into training camp
Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: It was 2-0, ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

Jul 29 @ 3:43 PM ET
since when do we have an Avs blog...I miss Musick as our regular blogger
- DDM-Coga

I hear Garth is looking for a 2nd team to blog for.
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jul 29 @ 3:44 PM ET
yup thats Roys big plan to start the season. He is inspired at how Sakic and Forsberg used to play together like that in Key situations.

O'Reilly/Duchene/Pareteau
Landeskog/Stastny/Tanguay
Mcginn/MacKinnon/Downie

Thats the project lineup going into training camp

- DDM-Coga


Solid top 9. If only you guys could get some help on the backend, you'd be a playoff team I'm sure.
Big_Lightnin
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pain is coming
Joined: 08.12.2010

Jul 29 @ 3:44 PM ET
The O'reilly contract is a tricky one esp when he is an RFA and the QO has to be at least 6.5
- senstroll


pretty sure they don't expect him to sign a qualifying offer... and it would have to be $7.1M would it not?

is there a limit on CO's?
seems kind of stupid at those numbers
BlowMonkey
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 08.14.2006

Jul 29 @ 3:45 PM ET
I hear Garth is looking for a 2nd team to blog for.
- Symba007

if nobody reads the first blog would anyone read the second?
Big_Lightnin
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pain is coming
Joined: 08.12.2010

Jul 29 @ 3:46 PM ET
yup thats Roys big plan to start the season. He is inspired at how Sakic and Forsberg used to play together like that in Key situations.

O'Reilly/Duchene/Pareteau
Landeskog/Stastny/Tanguay
Mcginn/MacKinnon/Downie

Thats the project lineup going into training camp

- DDM-Coga


that outta send Stastny's trade value through the roof by the deadline too, playing with Landeskog.

I'd prolly put MacKinnon on Wing though and keep the experience at C.

DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC
Joined: 07.28.2006

Jul 29 @ 3:46 PM ET
I hear Garth is looking for a 2nd team to blog for.
- Symba007


his offering this afternoon is a gem. an absolute gem.
senstroll
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Long Time Oilers Fan, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jul 29 @ 3:46 PM ET
pretty sure they don't expect him to sign a qualifying offer... and it would have to be $7.1M would it not?

is there a limit on CO's?
seems kind of stupid at those numbers

- Big_Lightnin


this is a decent explanation I could find

http://offsidesportsblog....n-oreilly-cut-in-pay.html

has to be 6.5, there is another option but its pricey also.

either way hes going to be expensive as a #3


Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Rope a Franking Dope!, ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jul 29 @ 3:50 PM ET
Because that's how trade happens:

1) Promote player "A" to another team's thread

2) Other team's fans get interested and start talking about it

3) A rumour site says it heard somewhere that player "A" might get traded to the other team.

4) NHL GM of other team notices the rumors and thinks about it.

- Scabeh



12) Ek writes up roomer about player "L" from a completely different team
Big_Lightnin
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pain is coming
Joined: 08.12.2010

Jul 29 @ 3:50 PM ET
haha yep the dream was great last year.

bottom line is, carlyle completely diminished any value grabo had which in turn led to nonis not being able to trade him.

which to me, is a bad job.

- big_dion


well lets be fair- Grabo diminished his own value cause he didn't perform. I'm with you about not being used right Even Strength, but he still got #2 PP constantly all season, and didn't score.

Kadri and Grabo played same amount of PP time... together. Kadri scored 5 PP goals, Grabo none, and Grabo's the shooter.

he had a bad year, and revealed a long-standing illness that yes, clearly, effected his play, and may continue to effect his play.

mykokes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: RELEASE THE LATVIAN!, ON
Joined: 11.09.2009

Jul 29 @ 3:51 PM ET
We will take Liles back, but only for a low end prospect and low pick, kind of painted yourself into a corner with your cap space
- DDM-Coga


My point exactly, I believe this trade is out there, Nonis is just waiting to see if something else comes up.
Sammich
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: You're the fukin best Bellows!
Joined: 02.10.2011

Jul 29 @ 3:53 PM ET
dont make me beat you with your own shoe
- DDM-Coga


that shoe should be in the hall of fame
Big_Lightnin
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pain is coming
Joined: 08.12.2010

Jul 29 @ 3:53 PM ET
this is a decent explanation I could find

http://offsidesportsblog....n-oreilly-cut-in-pay.html

has to be 6.5, there is another option but its pricey also.
either way hes going to be expensive as a #3

- senstroll


if they choose to qualify though. Could just negotiate an extension... say 5 yrs, $5.5M per.

I'd imagine he'd take it... especially with MacKinnon coming.

He's a special kind of delusional if he thinks there's any chance they pay him more than Duchene.
Big_Lightnin
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pain is coming
Joined: 08.12.2010

Jul 29 @ 3:54 PM ET
My point exactly, I believe this trade is out there, Nonis is just waiting to see if something else comes up.
- mykokes


or waiting to see if he actually has to do it.

He doesn't have to be under the cap until training camp. Can go 10% over before that.

burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jul 29 @ 3:55 PM ET
Yes we dont need a first line centerman, i forgot bozak was our hero
- Mapleleafs_91



#1 we need a #1C and still do if we trade for stastny


#2 out cap is tight now, and (frank)ed royally through that moronic trade.
honesthockey
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Click heels twice and 1c appears.
Joined: 09.23.2008

Jul 29 @ 3:59 PM ET
Grabovski is God.
steve362
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: St. John's, NF
Joined: 07.07.2010

Jul 29 @ 4:02 PM ET
Any suggestions as to why Grabo hasn't signed anywhere yet?
mykokes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: RELEASE THE LATVIAN!, ON
Joined: 11.09.2009

Jul 29 @ 4:02 PM ET
#1 we need a #1C and still do if we trade for stastny


#2 out cap is tight now, and (frank)ed royally through that moronic trade.

- burn


#3....I think you missed the most obvious......does it make sense to trade a 25 year old DMAN with 29 points in 45 games played and a 27 year old winger with 23 points in 48 gp , for a 27 year old centre with 40gp 9goals15assists 24points?

LET ME SPELL IT OUT, the d-man had more points than the supposed answer to our #1 centre dillemma.

mykokes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: RELEASE THE LATVIAN!, ON
Joined: 11.09.2009

Jul 29 @ 4:03 PM ET
Grabovski is God.
- honesthockey


who?
Big_Lightnin
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pain is coming
Joined: 08.12.2010

Jul 29 @ 4:04 PM ET
his offering this afternoon is a gem. an absolute gem.
- DoubleDown


complaining the Sabres are only a 100 to 1 shot to win the cup

yes Garth, it's cause the bookies hate Buffalo... of course.
Big_Lightnin
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pain is coming
Joined: 08.12.2010

Jul 29 @ 4:05 PM ET
Any suggestions as to why Grabo hasn't signed anywhere yet?
- steve362


cause he has no reason to rush and is insisting on market value...

need more reasons? like he was just married and went on a 3 wk honeymoon?
DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC
Joined: 07.28.2006

Jul 29 @ 4:06 PM ET
#3....I think you missed the most obvious......does it make sense to trade a 25 year old DMAN with 29 points in 45 games played and a 27 year old winger with 23 points in 48 gp , for a 27 year old centre with 40gp 9goals15assists 24points?

LET ME SPELL IT OUT, the d-man had more points than the supposed answer to our #1 centre dillemma.


- mykokes


these argument are irrelevant unless accompanied by the appropriate Corsi and Fenwick statistics.
Big_Lightnin
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pain is coming
Joined: 08.12.2010

Jul 29 @ 4:06 PM ET
Grabovski is God.
- honesthockey


your Bozie-sense is lacking today... we've been making fun of him for hours...
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