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FlyersFirst
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.01.2011

Jul 15 @ 5:09 PM ET
Hextall back in the Flyers fold is very good news.
- MJL

johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jul 15 @ 5:12 PM ET
yeah. i dont know why but im just not a fan person. i feel they just blow hot air around. i recently just bought an individual room unit for my back bedroom, but i dont really have any experience with them. had it going for a day now, and am trying to debate if it is worth the electric cost
- stayinthefnnet


I get a bit of cold air upstairs....it's just not what it should be. Especially relative to my downstairs, which gets to be like an icebox.

I'm at the point now with the fan that I need it just to fall asleep. I suspect the noise of the fan helps me zonk out.
Moose_15
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Rat Patrol, PA
Joined: 02.15.2013

Jul 15 @ 5:13 PM ET
Hextall back in the Flyers fold is very good news.
- MJL



Yawn.

Wake me up when Mark Recchi, M.D. returns as Team Physician.

FlyerGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.18.2007

Jul 15 @ 5:15 PM ET
Hexy is back???

This is awesome!
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 15 @ 5:15 PM ET
Yawn.

Wake me up when Mark Recchi, M.D. returns as Team Physician.

- Moose_15


Do you object to the Flyers bringing Hextall back?
Moose_15
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Rat Patrol, PA
Joined: 02.15.2013

Jul 15 @ 5:17 PM ET
Do you object to the Flyers bringing Hextall back?
- MJL



Not at all. Just being glib.

Love Hextall. Honestly think it's a good move by the organization. Guy is a Flyer through-and-through.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jul 15 @ 5:17 PM ET
Actually I posted the wrong thing. The players cost redistribution system deals with revenue sharing. Exhibit 16A covers the make whole payments. As of right now, I can't give you much on that. I haven't really digested it yet myself. With the CBA, you can't just read most things once, and grasp it. At least I can't. It takes some time. I'll get back to you.

Just looking at it quickly, it's 100M to the players on October 21, 2014,15,16

- MJL

Thanks man. I appreciate it. Maybe I'll snag a look myself any way then we can yell at each other about what neither of us understand yet.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jul 15 @ 5:18 PM ET
Hexys back what a summer wooooooo!!!
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jul 15 @ 5:19 PM ET
Your idea wont and let me give you an example instead of explaining.

Dallas offers Jagr a 5 year deal at age 41 knowing he only has 2 years left. They front load the contract to pay him the bulk in the first 2 season, lowering his cap hit significantly. By age 43, any doctor would find him unable to play, groin knees, etc... and the Stars effectively give him like an 8 million worth of cap hit for say 5 million, or whatever.

- youarewrong


This is a good example. But I think the type of injury you mention is exactly the reason they have the rule.

However, what if Jagr got hit by a car? It doesn't seem fair then that his salary should hamstring the Stars in the off season from making moves they need to make. It is an extreme example.
moylander
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jul 15 @ 5:20 PM ET
It's a young team, injuries and Gervais happened.
- PhillySportsGuy







Gervais
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jul 15 @ 5:21 PM ET
Hexys back what a summer wooooooo!!!
- Just5

Nothing you type with any amount of enthusiasm will come through as anything but sarcasm.

Now go turn this into the first lyric of a hit song.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Jul 15 @ 5:22 PM ET
I get a bit of cold air upstairs....it's just not what it should be. Especially relative to my downstairs, which gets to be like an icebox.

I'm at the point now with the fan that I need it just to fall asleep. I suspect the noise of the fan helps me zonk out.

- johndewar

i understand totally. my room upstairs will stay pushing 80, while the living room and all downstairs is frigid.

i was really hoping this window unit would be the answer, but so far it is driving me absolutely crazy with noise. its only a 6000, but my room is fairly small. it makes it bearable, but nothing like downstairs which is what i was kind of hoping for
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Jul 15 @ 5:22 PM ET
I do think if they miss the playoffs this season, Hextall might get another new title.
- Jsaquella


Just got the news on Hexy comin back home. Very happy to see this, and I agree...if these latest moves don't work, hello gm hextall.
FlyerGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.18.2007

Jul 15 @ 5:23 PM ET
not crazy about the rap over top Kashmir ... but I love this video.

MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 15 @ 5:23 PM ET
This is a good example. But I think the type of injury you mention is exactly the reason they have the rule.

However, what if Jagr got hit by a car? It doesn't seem fair then that his salary should hamstring the Stars in the off season from making moves they need to make. It is an extreme example.

- MBFlyerfan


That's why the 10% off season exemption is there. I do think that there is an issue there with that. As players salaries escalate. I think the 10% needs to be raised.
Moose_15
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Rat Patrol, PA
Joined: 02.15.2013

Jul 15 @ 5:26 PM ET
Nothing you type with any amount of enthusiasm will come through as anything but sarcasm.

Now go turn this into the first lyric of a hit song.

- mayorofangrytown



Likewise, "The mocker is never taken seriously when he is most serious."

That's some straight up gangsta Modernist Irish Lit right there.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jul 15 @ 5:28 PM ET
That's why the 10% off season exemption is there. I do think that there is an issue there with that. As players salaries escalate. I think the 10% needs to be raised.
- MJL

10% is 10%. It gets bigger every year the cap increases. How high do you want the overage to go? If the cap gets to 80 mil does the overage need to go to 12 mil? It's going to be hard enough to pull 8 mil back under.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jul 15 @ 5:30 PM ET
Likewise, "The mocker is never taken seriously when he is most serious."

That's some straight up gangsta Modernist Irish Lit right there.

- Moose_15

Sounds like a Mumford & Sons lyric.
flyerfan28
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CA
Joined: 02.06.2012

Jul 15 @ 5:32 PM ET
Que all the Flyers/Kings trade scenarious.....Doughty for Couts???!!?
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Jul 15 @ 5:32 PM ET
Hexys back what a summer wooooooo!!!
- Just5

I can't wait for some fan of another team says something along the lines of, "YOU GUYZ NEED DEFENSE NOT AN AGM HOMER IS A HORRIBLE GM HOW IS HE STILL HIRED?"
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Jul 15 @ 5:36 PM ET
not crazy about the rap over top Kashmir ... but I love this video.


- FlyerGuy


Yep. Fantastic video. The guy is a flyer through and through and he's back where he belongs. I still hate when another player wears 27. It should be retired by the team.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 15 @ 5:39 PM ET
10% is 10%. It gets bigger every year the cap increases. How high do you want the overage to go? If the cap gets to 80 mil does the overage need to go to 12 mil? It's going to be hard enough to pull 8 mil back under.
- mayorofangrytown



It's not hard to pull it back if you have a player with an 8M cap hit that will go on LTIR.
Hypothetical. The Cap is 70M. The off season exemption is 7M. The Flyers already have to include Pronger at 4.91M in the off season. That gives them a little over 2M to play with. Now, God forbid, Giroux gets a serious injury that ends his career. The Flyers now have to carry that 8.25M in the off season. Still think the 10% is enough?
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Jul 15 @ 5:40 PM ET
Yep. Fantastic video. The guy is a flyer through and through and he's back where he belongs. I still hate when another player wears 27. It should be retired by the team.
- Hextall271

Bruno Gervais
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Jul 15 @ 5:44 PM ET
Bruno Gervais
- JAKEw1234


Don't get me started. He's not the only one. Grrrrrrr. Afenasenkov talbot gervais and on and on
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jul 15 @ 5:45 PM ET
It's not hard to pull it back if you have a player with an 8M cap hit that will go on LTIR.
Hypothetical. The Cap is 70M. The off season exemption is 7M. The Flyers already have to include Pronger at 4.91M in the off season. That gives them a little over 2M to play with. Now, God forbid, Giroux gets a serious injury that ends his career. The Flyers now have to carry that 8.25M in the off season. Still think the 10% is enough?

- MJL

If you have a disaster that's going to be the unavoidable consequence. Of course if it's my team I'm always going to want more room. Hell, I want more right now.

Maybe 10% isn't enough but it's where they've put it. You aren't talking about continuing sliding the percentage as the cap goes up are you? Like 15% at 80 mil, 20% at 100 mil? Trying to understand where you're going.

Edit: Maybe they should set it at the percentage a single player can represent on the salary cal as a max contract. Is that where you're headed?
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