honesthockey
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Location: Click heels twice and 1c appears. Joined: 09.23.2008
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I like Phaneuf, Gardiner, Gunner, and Franson going into the season as a top 4. I think it's pretty solid.
The best defense though, will be the fact the Leafs have 2 of the better younger goalies in the entire NHL. - RogerRoeper
I'd puke. |
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systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Real men always have to poo, ON Joined: 09.12.2007
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It's not perfect but the best defensive players in the league are generally + players and I don't think that's just a coincidence... - 13sundin13
Yes, the ones who play on good teams and are on the ice with elite players. |
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puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Old Time Hockey Joined: 08.14.2011
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I like Phaneuf, Gardiner, Gunner, and Franson going into the season as a top 4. I think it's pretty solid.
The best defense though, will be the fact the Leafs have 2 of the better younger goalies in the entire NHL. - RogerRoeper
I iike that top 4 as well, but notice only one of those guys, (Dion), can play big minutes |
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Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today? Joined: 06.30.2006
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Watters.... lolz - SofaKingBored
Sofa King!
You are back from your ban? |
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GCHonda
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: MABIE NEXT YEAR!!!!!!! , ON Joined: 07.03.2010
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I hope not. Kike him or not he is going to be near jmpossible to replacing... - systemtool
I agree best TV dad ever!!!! Dion is a major minutes muncher. How are the Leafs gonna replace that? Leafs have a glutton of young d men, don't see any that are ready yet to replace Dion as a major minute muncher. |
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systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Real men always have to poo, ON Joined: 09.12.2007
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I agree if J Bo gets almost $7 million, do they think he's supposed to accept $4 million per to stay?
Seems like Nonis is hell bent on molding this team in his image even if it means weakening certain areas - puckhead17
Phaneuf might be the only player in the league who is both over paid and under rated. |
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RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 03.27.2007
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I iike that top 4 as well, but notice only one of those guys, (Dion), can play big minutes - puckhead17
Agreed, at least right now. I do think Gardiner's minutes can be pretty big this season. |
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I'd puke. - honesthockey
On Tyler Ballsack.
Forgot the S |
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SofaKingBored
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Halifax, NS Joined: 10.13.2006
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Sofa King!
You are back from your ban? - Aetherial
Yes... it was unjustified... I'm as innocent as Zimmerman |
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13sundin13
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Vancouver, BC Joined: 06.29.2006
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I would say that one of the best defensive players is fine and nothing more than a victim of his teams play and linemates. Its kind of weird how you state the obviousness of it then argue against it... - systemtool
I didn't argue against it, it's just obvious that if your team is bad, they're letting in more goals than scoring. But if you're the worst on your team for +/- then that's not a good sign... |
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puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Old Time Hockey Joined: 08.14.2011
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Phaneuf might be the only player in the league who is both over paid and under rated. - systemtool
yes, great point, but it seems only Toronto (mostly) dislikes him |
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RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 03.27.2007
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Phaneuf might be the only player in the league who is both over paid and under rated. - systemtool
Phaneuf is terribly underrated. The guy is viewed as a joke in the league yet look at his stats, and how many minutes he plays against the best players. |
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puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Old Time Hockey Joined: 08.14.2011
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Agreed, at least right now. I do think Gardiner's minutes can be pretty big this season. - RogerRoeper
agree! I like his game, he does need some weight though |
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RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 03.27.2007
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yes, great point, but it seems only Toronto (mostly) dislikes him - puckhead17
No, the 29 other fanbases view him as terrible. |
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Phaneuf is terribly underrated. The guy is viewed as a joke in the league yet look at his stats, and how many minutes he plays against the best players. - RogerRoeper
He looks like Frankensteins monster yet bangs a super hot actress.
He's got my vote for that alone. |
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honesthockey
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Click heels twice and 1c appears. Joined: 09.23.2008
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Yes... it was unjustified... I'm as innocent as Zimmerman - SofaKingBored
Two minutes for being a stupid c...
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13sundin13
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Vancouver, BC Joined: 06.29.2006
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Yes, the ones who play on good teams and are on the ice with elite players. - systemtool
Yeah, because they are the elite players, and they're good at preventing goals or at least scoring more than they let in. |
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RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 03.27.2007
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agree! I like his game, he does need some weight though - puckhead17
He looked solid and played big minutes in the playoffs. The big question is, can he pick up where he left off and do it during an entire season. His offensive abilities are damn impressive. |
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systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Real men always have to poo, ON Joined: 09.12.2007
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I didn't argue against it, it's just obvious that if your team is bad, they're letting in more goals than scoring. But if you're the worst on your team for +/- then that's not a good sign... - 13sundin13
Not really. Especially if your linemates aren't the best players on your team and yet you're facing the other teams best each night. Never mind, you'll never get it and if you do you're not going to admit your errors. |
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puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Old Time Hockey Joined: 08.14.2011
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No, the 29 other fanbases view him as terrible. - RogerRoeper
terrible in a sense like we felt about Domi, Tucker, etc.
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SofaKingBored
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Halifax, NS Joined: 10.13.2006
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I just don't want to see another season of Kostka or some other plug paired with Dion as the top pairing... |
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SofaKingBored
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Halifax, NS Joined: 10.13.2006
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Two minutes for being a stupid c... - honesthockey
Actually it was about 7 months... |
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RogerRoeper
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 03.27.2007
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I just don't want to see another season of Kostka or some other plug paired with Dion as the top pairing... - SofaKingBored
The top 4 needs to be Dion/Gunnar then Gardiner/Franson. Done. |
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systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Real men always have to poo, ON Joined: 09.12.2007
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Yeah, because they are the elite players, and they're good at preventing goals or at least scoring more than they let in. - 13sundin13
Not on their own they can't, which is the point you're missing. |
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honesthockey
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Click heels twice and 1c appears. Joined: 09.23.2008
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Actually it was about 7 months... - SofaKingBored
At least I only get the day sentence. Good to see you back sofa.
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