I think the biggest part of the cup hangover is coming back the next year knowing what it takes to win, and having the drive to go through that near-torturous post season again. The physical test to win in the post season borders on absurdity.

The Hawks won 8 of 11 games against the Kings and the Bruins, following a 3 game winning streak against Detroit. That is ridiculous.

On a technical level, I'm pretty sure that they do have the pieces in place to win again but there's obviously a lot more to it than that.

I have to believe Crosby's one is a product of injuries and the salary cap. I will be surprised if he wins another one in a Pens uniform if they don't win next year. 35 million wrapped up in five players after 2013-14. They better have a decent farm if they hope to continue their success.
- faustus1500

They're actually loaded on D prospects, but depth forwards are going to be a problem

Payback was the look on Jagr's face after game 6
- CBHawks88

So what are the ramifications if he goes back to school?.....does he become a FA?.....remains property of the Hawks?......anyone?
- UnnamedSource

I think he remains property of the Hawks. As to how long the Hawks have rights to him upon him finishing his four years at a NCAA program, I'm not sure of.

What's the limit on individual salaries in the CBA?
- StLBravesFan

It's in section 50.6. Player salaries cannot exceed 20% of the cap.
So, for 2013-2014, the max a player can sign for is $12,860,000

So what are the ramifications if he goes back to school?.....does he become a FA?.....remains property of the Hawks?......anyone?
- UnnamedSource

Lazerus has a followup which made sense. Hawks would retain the players rights for 30 days following the end of the NHL season after the NCAA player completes his senior season if drafted 4 years prior.

So....the Hawks can negotiate for 30 days after next season, after that he's an FA...just like Schultz.

IOW...Johns could still be a richard if he chooses to be, but I remain hopeful since he did show at prospect camp.

Still blows though...

I think he remains property of the Hawks. As to how long the Hawks have rights to him upon him finishing his four years at a NCAA program, I'm not sure of.
- EKolb13

My buddy went today.....a few thoughts.

Johns......massive....built like a tank and moves great

Danault.....motor like Frolik....but with the skills to create offense

Holl.....looked good

Lazerus has a followup which made sense. Hawks would retain the players rights for 30 days following the end of the NHL season after the NCAA player completes his senior season if drafted 4 years prior.

So....the Hawks can negotiate for 30 days after next season, after that he's an FA...just like Schultz.

IOW...Johns could still be a richard if he chooses to be, but I remain hopeful since he did show at prospect camp.

Still blows though...
- ArlingtonRob

If he is here....he wants to play for the Hawks.....he is also close with Saad.

Danault.....motor like Frolik....but with the skills to create offense
- UnnamedSource

I wouldn't be surprised if he won a job out of camp.

Lazerus has a followup which made sense. Hawks would retain the players rights for 30 days following the end of the NHL season after the NCAA player completes his senior season if drafted 4 years prior.

So....the Hawks can negotiate for 30 days after next season, after that he's an FA...just like Schultz.

IOW...Johns could still be a richard if he chooses to be, but I remain hopeful since he did show at prospect camp.

Still blows though...
- ArlingtonRob

Thanks for the clarification, Rob.

I wouldn't be surprised if he won a job out of camp.
- EKolb13

Me too.....

Thanks for the clarification, Rob.
- EKolb13

Yes thanks Rob.....


Danault says he has been working on his face offs since the hogs season ended...

My buddy went today.....a few thoughts.

Johns......massive....built like a tank and moves great

Danault.....motor like Frolik....but with the skills to create offense

Holl.....looked good
- UnnamedSource

Anyone plan on going to this? How big does Danault look on the ice (not just height and weight) but in terms of his presence?

Daniel Carcillo ‏@CarBombBoom13
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- philco28

Thanks Phil. You da man, we are a few minutes from there being in Vaughan.

Yes thanks Rob.....


Danault says he has been working on his face offs since the hogs season ended...
- UnnamedSource

I'm going Thursday but depending on my schedule could be Friday.

Lazerus has a followup which made sense. Hawks would retain the players rights for 30 days following the end of the NHL season after the NCAA player completes his senior season if drafted 4 years prior.

So....the Hawks can negotiate for 30 days after next season, after that he's an FA...just like Schultz.

IOW...Johns could still be a richard if he chooses to be, but I remain hopeful since he did show at prospect camp.

Still blows though...
- ArlingtonRob

Schultz played one year in Juniors before entering college. A club retains rights for only two years if a draftee plays in Juniors.

Unless the new CBA changes draft rights retroactively, the Hawks retain Johns' rights for six years.

Yes thanks Rob.....


Danault says he has been working on his face offs since the hogs season ended...
- UnnamedSource

I never played; so I have to ask how you work on winning face offs?

My buddy went today.....a few thoughts.

Johns......massive....built like a tank and moves great

Danault.....motor like Frolik....but with the skills to create offense

Holl.....looked good
- UnnamedSource

Exactly what I said 2-3 pages ago. Danault will be a game changer for the Hawks if not this year, then next year for sure. He's the kind of player coaches droll over.

Me too.....
- UnnamedSource

Me three.

any word on Raanta? it seemed a little last minute so hopefully he's not out for the whole week.

I'd love to get feedback from those there on how he looks.

Exactly what I said 2-3 pages ago. Danault will be a game changer for the Hawks if not this year, then next year for sure. He's the kind of player coaches droll over.
- TyCamScore

He is the guy we got in the Troy Broueer trade right ? Drafted hin eith that pick ?

He is the guy we got in the Troy Broueer trade right ? Drafted hin eith that pick ?
- mrpaulish

Yep - you are correct.

Some thought the Hawks reached for him at #26 overall. The Hawks spoke more of his character and winning attitude than his skills immediately after, they knew what they were getting!

Yep - you are correct.

Some thought the Hawks reached for him at #26 overall. The Hawks spoke more of his character and winning attitude than his skills immediately after, they knew what they were getting!
- TyCamScore

Winners win. Its a good drafting strategy

I think the biggest part of the cup hangover is coming back the next year knowing what it takes to win, and having the drive to go through that near-torturous post season again. The physical test to win in the post season borders on absurdity.

The Hawks won 8 of 11 games against the Kings and the Bruins, following a 3 game winning streak against Detroit. That is ridiculous.
On a technical level, I'm pretty sure that they do have the pieces in place to win again but there's obviously a lot more to it than that.
- AceRatbang

If you want something to do at Prospects Camp, besides trying to promote every Hawk Prospect to the parent club too some, try and isolate your viewing on
a Swiss kid I thought had a good cahnce to get drafted the last two years...

Dario Simion


http://www.draftsite.com/...layer/dario-simion/17973/