They finished tied for 27th in NHL scoring and did so on a terrible team with a terrible coach, no defense to speak of, and core guys missing half the season.

You should probably watch more Avalanche games this year being you guys are gonna be so bad. We'll be fun to watch, I promise you that.

As for trading with you guys.. Statsny, Barrie and Varly for Miller.

You get pieces we can part with, and we get a goalie upgrade.

As for the money, you take on just a bit. Worth it from my pov in your spot to acquire pieces right now.
- DutchCanSaveUs

why was he such a terrible coach? He was a Jack Adams finalist 2 years ago. Did he get dumb over night?

You guys may be fun to watch, but you're Edmonton. Good young forwards, no defense or goaltending. You won't win that way.

it's the only logical thought I could come up with
- navinrjohnson

There's gotta be a trade coming where one of our Dmen is packaged w Vanek, Miller or Stafford
Otherwise..... ?

why was he such a terrible coach? He was a Jack Adams finalist 2 years ago. Did he get dumb over night?

You guys may be fun to watch, but you're Edmonton. Good young forwards, no defense or goaltending. You won't win that way.
- Homer

They seem to have better two way guys IMO...

Now you're talking out your ass. Over value much there "Colorado guy" ?
- BuffaloHardHat

I wouldn't do that either. Why give up one of your best young players for two expiring contracts?

Tallinder & Sulzer better not freaking play over McNabb & Pysyk...
That would be so dumb
- jdfitz77

why would u bring Tallinder in at 3.35 cap hit not to play?

LMFAO did you just compare Ovi to Duchene??? I love Duchene but to compare him to Ovi is crazy talk. Ovi is probably the top 3 best player in the NHL since the first lockout.
- Smittyx36

And? Duchene and PAP again.. tied for 25th in NHL scoring, not 27th, my bad.

13 fewer pts than Ov this year. On again.. a team which was beat up and bad, coached bad, run bad, everything.

Full team, new coach, new GM, new additions.. Allaire as a goalie coach, Foote as a D coach..

Lol. Just wait. You gonna be surprised, son.

why was he such a terrible coach? He was a Jack Adams finalist 2 years ago. Did he get dumb over night?
You guys may be fun to watch, but you're Edmonton. Good young forwards, no defense or goaltending. You won't win that way.
- Homer

Everything I read/heard was he was the reason the O suffered. His style of coaching put clamps on the offense. Duchene was playing on the 4th line at times for poops sake.

Even Miller and Vanek for Duchene they would probably say no.
- DutchCanSaveUs

Well you guys need to do something as your defence and goaltending is below average at best.

why would u bring Tallinder in at 3.35 cap hit not to play?
- Homer

6th/7th d-man to get to the cap floor...

why was he such a terrible coach? He was a Jack Adams finalist 2 years ago. Did he get dumb over night?

You guys may be fun to watch, but you're Edmonton. Good young forwards, no defense or goaltending. You won't win that way.
- Homer

Salute.

Tallinder & Sulzer better not freaking play over McNabb & Pysyk...
That would be so dumb
- jdfitz77

Get use to it because they will

Well you guys need to do something as your defence and goaltending is below average at best.
- BigStew

Defense I agree, Goaltending suffered because of the tremendously bad d-play.

are you guys really worse then florida or calgary?
- Jurco_28

When we trade Vanek & Miller for picks & prospects...
Ya, we'll be pretty bad

Now you're talking out your ass. Over value much there "Colorado guy" ?
- BuffaloHardHat

Not really. Both of them could walk next year for nothing if they don't extend.

It would be dumb of us to make that trade unless one of them agreed to an extension immediately.

6th/7th d-man to get to the cap floor...
- ImThatGuy

Tallinder is going to play with Myers on the second pair. For sure

And? Duchene and PAP again.. tied for 25th in NHL scoring, not 27th, my bad.

13 fewer pts than Ov this year. On again.. a team which was beat up and bad, coached bad, run bad, everything.

Full team, new coach, new GM, new additions.. Allaire as a goalie coach, Foote as a D coach..

Lol. Just wait. You gonna be surprised, son.
- DutchCanSaveUs

You do no that Washington was a train wreck this year??? And Ovi going on a hot streak is the only reason they got into the playoffs. They were dead last 20 games in.

Please use more realistic comparisons lol.

Not really. Both of them could walk next year for nothing if they don't extend.

It would be dumb of us to make that trade unless one of them agreed to an extension immediately.
- DutchCanSaveUs

IMO, any trade with Miller and Vanek is contingent on them resigning.

Get use to it because they will
- SABRES 89

Agreed unless a D gets traded one if not both with start in Rochester

Everything I read/heard was he was the reason the O suffered. His style of coaching put clamps on the offense. Duchene was playing on the 4th line at times for poops sake.
- ImThatGuy

just like Lindy right?

Of course they will. I expect both McNabb and Pysyk to be in Rochchacha
- Cheeseballin

Ugh... That would suck

wow, we got back the human carton of molasses..great

is Darcy nuts?????

Some haven't figured it out yet that they don't have much faith in McNabb.

Agreed unless a D gets traded one if not both with start in Rochester
- Stripes77

Pysyk will be in Buffalo, I fear McNabb wont...again.

why was he such a terrible coach? He was a Jack Adams finalist 2 years ago. Did he get dumb over night?

You guys may be fun to watch, but you're Edmonton. Good young forwards, no defense or goaltending. You won't win that way.
- Homer

Put it to you this way.. we're up by a goal.. late in the 3rd.. we get a PP on the road... so what does Sacco do? He throws FIVE forwards out there. We give up a SHG and then lose promptly afterwards.

He's a tool. Just believe me. His first year for whatever reason the team played well. He changed things after that. Lots. And like somebody else said, Duchene was on the 4th line at times.. he refused to stick with line combo's and just moved people around game to game to game hoping something would work.

When it didn't, he just kept doing it. When we brought up Tyson Barrie and the team rolled on a 3 game winning streak because of the influence of the kids skating and outlet passes.. he sent him back to the minors so somebody of Hunwick or SOB could come back from injury. It was absolutely mind numbing.

We went right back to losing. Like nobody saw what was going on except the fans at home.

And comparing us to the Oilers?? Insulting. Just watch this season. It was mainly coaching man. The team checked out. As evidenced by Giggy's ripping of them and subsequent hot streak near the end. Wasn't a coincidence.

wow, we got back the human carton of molasses..great

is Darcy nuts?????
- French-Connection

yes he is