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PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jul 7 @ 7:00 PM ET
Sam Carchidi ‏@BroadStBull 6m
Goalie Anthony Stolarz looking shaky in breakaway drills. Hey, it's early. #Flyers

- JAKEw1234


Trade him now
feelingkettle
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "No sir, I don't like it" Phil, PA
Joined: 11.13.2006

Jul 7 @ 7:01 PM ET
Sam Carchidi ‏@BroadStBull 6m
Goalie Anthony Stolarz looking shaky in breakaway drills. Hey, it's early. #Flyers

- JAKEw1234

A Carchidian slight, to be sure.
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Jul 7 @ 7:02 PM ET
Holmgren took over the worst team in the NHL and had them making deep playoff runs within a year or two. Amaro took over the World Champions and each year they progressively got worse.

The mistakes Holmgren has made are certainly out there for all to see, but he's earned more cache than Amaro has.

- Jsaquella

he's had more spending leeway than amaro for a longer time. and it's much easier to rebuild in the NHL than in MLB if you can spend freely. amaro has made 3 big mistakes; 1) the first Lee trade (mgmt tied his hands); 2) howard contract; 3) rollins re-sign. now he is under pressure to keep the stadium full when he should be gutting the core because of the TV contract bidding.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jul 7 @ 7:11 PM ET
Sometimes I really feel like the only one who likes Homer as a GM.
- JAKEw1234

I like Homer too, I think he gets a bad rap. He's not perfect, but overall he does a pretty good job.
Re the Phils: would like to see them clean house and get rid of Amaro and Manuel after the season. With that said, I would only move players in the last year of deals (Utley &Chooch) during the season and let thevnew GM decide what to do with the rest of the roster.
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Jul 7 @ 7:11 PM ET
Sam Carchidi ‏@BroadStBull 6m
Goalie Anthony Stolarz looking shaky in breakaway drills. Hey, it's early. #Flyers

- JAKEw1234


+/- on JoeRussomanno calling this an example of the Flyers sucking! =)
77rams
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There's a kind of freedom in being completely screwed...
Joined: 09.12.2006

Jul 7 @ 7:16 PM ET
he's had more spending leeway than amaro for a longer time. and it's much easier to rebuild in the NHL than in MLB if you can spend freely. amaro has made 3 big mistakes; 1) the first Lee trade (mgmt tied his hands); 2) howard contract; 3) rollins re-sign. now he is under pressure to keep the stadium full when he should be gutting the core because of the TV contract bidding.
- isaiah520


1) agree
2) agree
3) agree

The Lee trade would've been easier to swallow if he had gotten a decent return, but and that's what scares me most if they decide to clean house.

Although, I like what Rube got back in the Pence and Victorino deals.
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

Jul 7 @ 7:19 PM ET
he's had more spending leeway than amaro for a longer time. and it's much easier to rebuild in the NHL than in MLB if you can spend freely. amaro has made 3 big mistakes; 1) the first Lee trade (mgmt tied his hands); 2) howard contract; 3) rollins re-sign. now he is under pressure to keep the stadium full when he should be gutting the core because of the TV contract bidding.
- isaiah520



The Howard extension I thought was early, but I get why it was done. I have no idea the need to resign Rollins. He was clearly declining at the plate, so of course a tree year contract with a vesting for a 4th year. They should have invested that money in Cuddyer and let Galvis play SS.

Papelbon needs to be traded, if he stays past the deadline would be a colossal blunder.
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Jul 7 @ 7:21 PM ET
Yeah I agree, but getting that stud is hard. That very may be we love are defense because there is nothing we can do to improve it without gutting the core of our team and were not gonna do that
- nonpoint22

I think having that stud would actually make our defense cheaper too. After Kimmo retires, if by theory we got Pietrangelo, then we could pair him with L Schenn. That would give us an amazing 1st pairing that is shut down, offensive, and could with out a doubt play upwards of 27 minutes a night, every night. Then we'd only need our last 2 pairs to play around 30 minutes a night. If we had a 2nd pairing that could play an effective 20 minutes a night (Think Gus and Gross), then we could honestly just play some cheap youth on the 3rd pairing (Maybe Lauridsen and MAB depending on health), because they'd only need to play 10-14 minutes a night. Then we could clear millions off of our cap that we currently have tied up in pretty good dmen because we need all of our defenseman to play pretty big minutes. Adding $1.5mil for replacing Kimmo with Piet could allow us to run a bottom 4 defense that costs us around $5.5 mil or so for 4 defenseman, instead of around $17-18 mil in our bottom 4 that we have at this moment.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 7 @ 7:25 PM ET
I think having that stud would actually make our defense cheaper too. After Kimmo retires, if by theory we got Pietrangelo, then we could pair him with L Schenn. That would give us an amazing 1st pairing that is shut down, offensive, and could with out a doubt play upwards of 27 minutes a night, every night. Then we'd only need our last 2 pairs to play around 30 minutes a night. If we had a 2nd pairing that could play an effective 20 minutes a night (Think Gus and Gross), then we could honestly just play some cheap youth on the 3rd pairing (Maybe Lauridsen and MAB depending on health), because they'd only need to play 10-14 minutes a night. Then we could clear millions off of our cap that we currently have tied up in pretty good dmen because we need all of our defenseman to play pretty big minutes. Adding $1.5mil for replacing Kimmo with Piet could allow us to run a bottom 4 defense that costs us around $5.5 mil or so for 4 defenseman, instead of around $17-18 mil in our bottom 4 that we have at this moment.
- JAKEw1234


Didn't we try that with our Parent/Krajicek 3rd pair?

Edit: Not trying to rip you, it's a good idea. But the 3rd pairing can't just be a throw away pair, it still has to be good. They still need to be effective NHL caliber players.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jul 7 @ 7:25 PM ET
Most people who frequent this site don't care about Ek's rumors. I come here to talk Flyers and read Bill's blogs.
- Jsaquella

He's pulled together a fairly good collection of bloggers here.
jstross
Joined: 06.25.2012

Jul 7 @ 7:32 PM ET
he's had more spending leeway than amaro for a longer time. and it's much easier to rebuild in the NHL than in MLB if you can spend freely. amaro has made 3 big mistakes; 1) the first Lee trade (mgmt tied his hands); 2) howard contract; 3) rollins re-sign. now he is under pressure to keep the stadium full when he should be gutting the core because of the TV contract bidding.
- isaiah520


Agree on all 3. I would add they gave up way too much for Pence when they were a lock to win the division.

That said the Phil's won 102 games just 2 years ago. If not for lee blowing a 4 run lead they most likely get another ring. They are t as far away as everyone thinks. They'll have $50 million to spend next season. Have to get that RH RF power bat.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jul 7 @ 7:37 PM ET
Love that the Russomanno heel turn has now been firmly established with the new avatar and location
- Crimsoninja

jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 7 @ 7:41 PM ET
Agree on all 3. I would add they gave up way too much for Pence when they were a lock to win the division.

That said the Phil's won 102 games just 2 years ago. If not for lee blowing a 4 run lead they most likely get another ring. They are t as far away as everyone thinks. They'll have $50 million to spend next season. Have to get that RH RF power bat.

- jstross


They also likely would have won one in 2010 if they hadn't traded Lee.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jul 7 @ 7:45 PM ET
He's pulled together a fairly good collection of bloggers here.
- BulliesPhan87

some very good ones have left also
Andy Strickland the St Louis guy was great
Brian Metzer (?sp) on Pitt

just two that pop to mind, I'm sure there are more
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jul 7 @ 7:48 PM ET

- Jsaquella

is that from "you can't handle the truth" ?

Can homer go to opening night with all these D men on the roster?

I'm worried that Mez's actually salary of 5.5M this season is scaring the GMs off.
jstross
Joined: 06.25.2012

Jul 7 @ 7:49 PM ET
They also likely would have won one in 2010 if they hadn't traded Lee.
- jmatchett383

That call came from above RAJ. Ownership wouldn't foot the bill. I agree the return was poor. Ramirez and Aumont are both relievers in the bigs and Gillies is back in AAA. Not enough for Lee.
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Jul 7 @ 7:50 PM ET
Didn't we try that with our Parent/Krajicek 3rd pair?

Edit: Not trying to rip you, it's a good idea. But the 3rd pairing can't just be a throw away pair, it still has to be good. They still need to be effective NHL caliber players.

- jmatchett383

I suppose, but Lauridsen (with 1 more year of development) definitely isn't just a throw away guy, he played pretty good last year. And MAB/Alt wouldn't exactly just be playing a filler, either. And eventually it would be Morin and Hagg on the 3rd pair, which definitely isn't just trying to fill roster space.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jul 7 @ 7:53 PM ET
Love that the Russomanno heel turn has now been firmly established with the new avatar and location
- Crimsoninja

Ok whatever
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jul 7 @ 7:56 PM ET

- Jsaquella

Has the whole world gone crazy?!
TheGreat28
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Chadds Ford, PA
Joined: 06.20.2010

Jul 7 @ 7:57 PM ET
Holmgren took over the worst team in the NHL and had them making deep playoff runs within a year or two. Amaro took over the World Champions and each year they progressively got worse.

The mistakes Holmgren has made are certainly out there for all to see, but he's earned more cache than Amaro has.

- Jsaquella


Actually, the biggest difference between Holmgren and Amaro is that Amaro is an arrogant jerk. I think Homer is an above average GM (whereas Amaro is one of the worse) and I question some of his moves, but he is never condescending and obnoxious like "how dare you question me" Amaro.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jul 7 @ 7:57 PM ET
+/- on JoeRussomanno calling this an example of the Flyers sucking! =)
- opeth_pa

Clearly I'm misunderstood
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jul 7 @ 7:58 PM ET
is that from "you can't handle the truth" ?

Can homer go to opening night with all these D men on the roster?

I'm worried that Mez's actually salary of 5.5M this season is scaring the GMs off.

- Marc D

Yes no and yes again.
xpsana
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.06.2011

Jul 7 @ 8:00 PM ET
Has the whole world gone crazy?!
- JoeRussomanno


You are the only one around here who gives a poop about the rules.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jul 7 @ 8:00 PM ET
You are the only one around here who gives a poop about the rules.
- xpsana

Mark it zero
the deaninator
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Purgatory, DE
Joined: 08.06.2006

Jul 7 @ 8:03 PM ET
Sam Carchidi ‏@BroadStBull 6m
Goalie Anthony Stolarz looking shaky in breakaway drills. Hey, it's early. #Flyers

- JAKEw1234


Thanks, Sam. Glad to know you're on top of prospect development.

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