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SMS4016
Joined: 01.27.2011

Jul 7 @ 1:39 PM ET
If coutorier gets you Sven Baertschi and a pick I'd do it. But that doesn't fit a need. Their defensive prospects are average at best, but the pick could land a top defensive pairing guy. The key is jetisoning Mez's contract. Feaster might be dumb enough to take on mez, but I doubt him giving Baertschi and their no. 1 pick for cooter and mez.
- the deaninator

Feaster= the dumbest in the land
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jul 7 @ 1:40 PM ET
Andy Strickland ‏@andystrickland 1h
Doug Armstrong tells me there will be no issue fitting Pietrangelo and Stewart under the cap with roster as it currently sits #stlblues

Pietrangs cant be happy with that offer.
SMS4016
Joined: 01.27.2011

Jul 7 @ 1:43 PM ET
90% is bit bit of a presumption
I thought Ottawa would do poorly last season when they lost Spezza, Michalek, Karlsson, and Anderson, and they were left with essentially a roster of prospects and fillers. Look at how that ended.

- JAKEw1234

Ok ok 80%
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Jul 7 @ 1:45 PM ET
Andy Strickland ‏@andystrickland 1h
Doug Armstrong tells me there will be no issue fitting Pietrangelo and Stewart under the cap with roster as it currently sits #stlblues

Pietrangs cant be happy with that offer.

- hereticpride

As it sits now they'll be able to fit both?

CAPGEEK.COM USER GENERATED ROSTER
My Custom Lineup
FORWARDS
David Perron ($3.813m) / David Backes ($4.500m) / Vladimir Tarasenko ($1.750m)
Alexander Steen ($3.363m) / T.J. Oshie ($4.175m) / Ryan Reaves ($0.600m)
Jaden Schwartz ($1.167m) / Derek Roy ($4.000m) / Adam Cracknell ($0.600m)
Dmitrij Jaskin ($0.894m) / Patrik Berglund ($3.250m) / Chris Stewart ($3.500m)
Chris Porter ($0.675m) / Vladimir Sobotka ($1.300m) /
Keith Aucoin ($0.625m) / Maxim Lapierre ($1.100m) /
DEFENSEMEN
Jay Bouwmeester ($6.680m) / Kevin Shattenkirk ($4.250m)
Barret Jackman ($3.167m) / Roman Polak ($2.750m)
Jordan Leopold ($2.250m) / Ian Cole ($0.825m)
Taylor Chorney ($0.600m) / Alex Pietrangelo ($7.500m)
GOALTENDERS
Jaroslav Halak ($3.750m)
Brian Elliott ($1.800m)
------
CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled with the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $64,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $68,882,500; BONUSES: $1,432,500
CAP SPACE (26-man roster): -$3,150,000

How does that guy do math? Even if Pietrangelo for some reason settled for $6.5, and Stewart for some crazy reason resigned for $2.5, they would still be over the cap.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jul 7 @ 1:47 PM ET
Might as well. Its like a never ending Abilify commercial in here today.
- hereticpride


I'll go back to reading the WHL article I posted here already.
mikel33
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, NJ
Joined: 08.09.2007

Jul 7 @ 1:48 PM ET
Andy Strickland ‏@andystrickland 1h
Doug Armstrong tells me there will be no issue fitting Pietrangelo and Stewart under the cap with roster as it currently sits #stlblues

Pietrangs cant be happy with that offer.

- hereticpride


Unleash the Kra... Offer Sheet!
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jul 7 @ 1:49 PM ET
A German could go #1? When's the last time that happened?
- JAKEw1234


Sam Reinhart is Canadian, he is the brother of Griffin who went #4 to the Islanders in 2012
mydoglicks
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: downingtown, PA
Joined: 06.25.2009

Jul 7 @ 1:50 PM ET
puzzle pieces starting to fit

stl did not want cooter, not enough offence, so cooter goes to cal and salary dump mezzy and aquire a top 5 pick next year and 2 nice prospects while clearing cap to offer sheet ap
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Jul 7 @ 1:51 PM ET
Sam Reinhart is Canadian, he is the brother of Griffin who went #4 to the Islanders in 2012
- ob18

No Leon Draisaitl. The article says Draisaitl will be most likely to challenge Reinhart for 1st overall.
Flyers2821
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 01.16.2010

Jul 7 @ 1:52 PM ET
puzzle pieces starting to fit

stl did not want cooter, not enough offence, so cooter goes to cal and salary dump mezzy and aquire a top 5 pick next year and 2 nice prospects while clearing cap to offer sheet ap

- mydoglicks


What are you getting back for couturier?
mikel33
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, NJ
Joined: 08.09.2007

Jul 7 @ 1:52 PM ET
puzzle pieces starting to fit

stl did not want cooter, not enough offence, so cooter goes to cal and salary dump mezzy and aquire a top 5 pick next year and 2 nice prospects while clearing cap to offer sheet ap

- mydoglicks


I wonder how much they would pay (Flyers) AP.
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jul 7 @ 1:52 PM ET
puzzle pieces starting to fit

stl did not want cooter, not enough offence, so cooter goes to cal and salary dump mezzy and aquire a top 5 pick next year and 2 nice prospects while clearing cap to offer sheet ap

- mydoglicks

tell me errythings gonna be alright
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Jul 7 @ 1:53 PM ET
puzzle pieces starting to fit

stl did not want cooter, not enough offence, so cooter goes to cal and salary dump mezzy and aquire a top 5 pick next year and 2 nice prospects while clearing cap to offer sheet ap

- mydoglicks

I don't know if I'd be OK with this.
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Jul 7 @ 1:53 PM ET
I wonder how much they would pay (Flyers) AP.
- mikel33

I still wonder how St Louis will pay AP.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jul 7 @ 1:55 PM ET
No Leon Draisaitl. The article says Draisaitl will be most likely to challenge Reinhart for 1st overall.
- JAKEw1234


Oh my bad, haven't seen him play but I have seen a lot about how good he is, look forward to watching some of him.

And I believe that's for #1 of the WHL ranked players not #1 overall.
mydoglicks
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: downingtown, PA
Joined: 06.25.2009

Jul 7 @ 1:55 PM ET
tell me errythings gonna be alright
- Crimsoninja


it will be, we dump mezzy and for cooter we get a top5 pick and a prospect, clear like 7mil in space

I loike cooter but he is replacable, if this leads us to get ap im all over that
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jul 7 @ 1:55 PM ET
I still wonder how St Louis will pay AP.
- JAKEw1234

why is it so hard to fathom that they move someone out to clear space?
mydoglicks
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: downingtown, PA
Joined: 06.25.2009

Jul 7 @ 1:56 PM ET
I still wonder how St Louis will pay AP.
- JAKEw1234


looking at there roster the only way they sign allen, stewart and ap is to find an idiot gm to take jabow and halak
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jul 7 @ 1:57 PM ET
it will be, we dump mezzy and for cooter we get a top5 pick and a prospect, clear like 7mil in space

I loike cooter but he is replacable, if this leads us to get ap im all over that

- mydoglicks

dont forget about all those 1sts they'd lose if stl doesnt match the offersheet
jstross
Joined: 06.25.2012

Jul 7 @ 2:00 PM ET
As it sits now they'll be able to fit both?

CAPGEEK.COM USER GENERATED ROSTER
My Custom Lineup
FORWARDS
David Perron ($3.813m) / David Backes ($4.500m) / Vladimir Tarasenko ($1.750m)
Alexander Steen ($3.363m) / T.J. Oshie ($4.175m) / Ryan Reaves ($0.600m)
Jaden Schwartz ($1.167m) / Derek Roy ($4.000m) / Adam Cracknell ($0.600m)
Dmitrij Jaskin ($0.894m) / Patrik Berglund ($3.250m) / Chris Stewart ($3.500m)
Chris Porter ($0.675m) / Vladimir Sobotka ($1.300m) /
Keith Aucoin ($0.625m) / Maxim Lapierre ($1.100m) /
DEFENSEMEN
Jay Bouwmeester ($6.680m) / Kevin Shattenkirk ($4.250m)
Barret Jackman ($3.167m) / Roman Polak ($2.750m)
Jordan Leopold ($2.250m) / Ian Cole ($0.825m)
Taylor Chorney ($0.600m) / Alex Pietrangelo ($7.500m)
GOALTENDERS
Jaroslav Halak ($3.750m)
Brian Elliott ($1.800m)
------
CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled with the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $64,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $68,882,500; BONUSES: $1,432,500
CAP SPACE (26-man roster): -$3,150,000

How does that guy do math? Even if Pietrangelo for some reason settled for $6.5, and Stewart for some crazy reason resigned for $2.5, they would still be over the cap.

- JAKEw1234


3 of those forwards will be in the AHL.
mydoglicks
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: downingtown, PA
Joined: 06.25.2009

Jul 7 @ 2:00 PM ET
dont forget about all those 1sts they'd lose if stl doesnt match the offersheet
- Crimsoninja


well, we will still have a better pick next year then our own (cal) for coots, its genious, we loose our own but still pick in the top 5
dingo8urbaby
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.02.2009

Jul 7 @ 2:03 PM ET
So everyone got the weekend off eh? We have a frenzy of trades and signings friday and then everything goes silent over the weekend. I am interested to know if we will be able to move Meszaros and I am hoping Gagne is a possibility. Outside of the Flyers, I wanna know whereas Jagr lands next. If Bryzgalov has any interest at all in him. I don't think Doug Murray or Brendan Morrow found homes yet. Will other players be bought out?
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Jul 7 @ 2:05 PM ET
Oh my bad, haven't seen him play but I have seen a lot about how good he is, look forward to watching some of him.

And I believe that's for #1 of the WHL ranked players not #1 overall.

- ob18

Ah yes, my bad
Adam1
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 01.07.2013

Jul 7 @ 2:06 PM ET
So everyone got the weekend off eh? We have a frenzy of trades and signings friday and then everything goes silent over the weekend. I am interested to know if we will be able to move Meszaros and I am hoping Gagne is a possibility. Outside of the Flyers, I wanna know whereas Jagr lands next. If Bryzgalov has any interest at all in him. I don't think Doug Murray or Brendan Morrow found homes yet. Will other players be bought out?
- dingo8urbaby


I think buyout period is over, so will have to wait for next year fo that.
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Jul 7 @ 2:06 PM ET
Rich Smith ‏@ALLsportsINTEL 8m
NHL - Source - Flyers Meszaros expected to be medically cleared soon, at that point he can and will be traded.
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