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Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jul 7 @ 12:14 PM ET
Yandle isn't worth anything close to that, IMO.
- jstross



Hehe, just making sure. It wasn't apparent the way you worded it.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jul 7 @ 12:15 PM ET
i'd want a proven commodity in a couturier trade. brodie has potential, but i'd want more of a sure thing
- FlyerMike18


Then you're trading Couturier plus other assets. You probably couldn't get a guy like Yandle for Couturier alone.
nonpoint22
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 02.16.2011

Jul 7 @ 12:15 PM ET
Rich Smith is actually Paul Holmgen. He puts this stuff out there to turn up the heat on St. Louis to move AP now before we give away the assets they want and before its too late
- mikel33

Smooth move by Homer
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jul 7 @ 12:16 PM ET
I have heard of TJ Brodie, guess he is a D man. I would figure he is a prospect, a highly regarded one that. I only ask because I am not on the up and up with the Flames players
- bigmookalookie



Brodie strikes me as more of a Coloiacovo/Ian White than somebody I'd be willing to trade a franchise cornerstone for.

Calgary has literally nothing that would interest me in a trade... they're probably the worst drafting team in the NHL, PLUS, they have the crazy UFA contracts that the Flyers are often guilty of.
SMS4016
Joined: 01.27.2011

Jul 7 @ 12:19 PM ET
To be fully truthful, they're trying to win now and be a contender in the future, 3-5 years down the road. If they were really trying to compete 3 years from now, then the Lecavalier and Streit deals would be terrible. But they are trying to win now, as well as down the road.
- Jsaquella

Yeah Philly will always try to ice a team that maybe if everything falls right might have a chance to win cup( that's how this team is now) but once they traded ritchie/cartEr for all that youth it was a rebuild. When 75% of your Roster of top talent is 25 and under you aren't winning the cup. I'm excited to see this core grow. And I expect some pieces to be moved over the next few years. Everone needs to remember Also we are stock piling some talent now (stolarz,morin,hagg,ghost,+ drafts in the next few years. I think homer being patient now proves he's building for future. Now if he goes and trades coots for yandle straight up then that would signal trying to go for cup now. Let's hope we don't see moves like that anytime soon
dingo8urbaby
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.02.2009

Jul 7 @ 12:21 PM ET
Bill Meltzer: Meltzer's Musings: Streit Usage
- bmeltzer

Going against the rest, I have Streit paired with Schenn. Luke Schenn was solid both with and without Timonen. Coburn is coming off a doen season that with a helping hand of Kimmo Timonen can fix. They were a proven top pair. I think Schenn and Streit could be fine together.
FlyerMike18
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.07.2009

Jul 7 @ 12:21 PM ET
Then you're trading Couturier plus other assets. You probably couldn't get a guy like Yandle for Couturier alone.
- Jsaquella


...or i'm not trading couturier

i wouldn't want yandle at that price
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jul 7 @ 12:23 PM ET
...or i'm not trading couturier

i wouldn't want yandle at that price

- FlyerMike18


Exactly. That's a big part of why Mark Streit is a Flyer now. They didn't want to move Couturier or Schenn for a 27 year old defenseman
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jul 7 @ 12:24 PM ET
Brodie strikes me as more of a Coloiacovo/Ian White than somebody I'd be willing to trade a franchise cornerstone for.

Calgary has literally nothing that would interest me in a trade... they're probably the worst drafting team in the NHL, PLUS, they have the crazy UFA contracts that the Flyers are often guilty of.

- Tomahawk


I'd want more than Brodie in a Couturier deal, but he'd be a guy I targeted.
FlyerMike18
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.07.2009

Jul 7 @ 12:26 PM ET
Exactly. That's a big part of why Mark Streit is a Flyer now. They didn't want to move Couturier or Schenn for a 27 year old defenseman
- Jsaquella


which is why i won't get too adamant against the streit deal (even though i do think it's a bad deal). definitely better than a trade like that, imo
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jul 7 @ 12:27 PM ET
I'd want more than Brodie in a Couturier deal, but he'd be a guy I targeted.
- Jsaquella



He's definitely the best out of a very bad bunch.

Looking at how Feaster & Co. have run that team into the ground always puts things into perspective for me when I find myself frustrated with Homer.
dingo8urbaby
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.02.2009

Jul 7 @ 12:31 PM ET
Are we still trying to trade Sean Couturier today?
mikel33
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, NJ
Joined: 08.09.2007

Jul 7 @ 12:32 PM ET
Are we still trying to trade Sean Couturier today?
- dingo8urbaby


According to "Rich", Calgary wants Couturier.
77rams
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There's a kind of freedom in being completely screwed...
Joined: 09.12.2006

Jul 7 @ 12:34 PM ET
Are we still trying to trade Sean Couturier today?
- dingo8urbaby


Nah. He'll be anchoring the Flyer's 3rd line for the next 5 years, and then the 2nd for five years after that..
mikel33
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, NJ
Joined: 08.09.2007

Jul 7 @ 12:34 PM ET
Rich Smith
NHL - Source if Flyers and Flames pull of Couturier trade, it allows the Flyers to dump Meszaros cap, get possible top 5 pick + prospect.

(Not sure if its been posted)
nonpoint22
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 02.16.2011

Jul 7 @ 12:35 PM ET
Are we still trying to trade Sean Couturier today?
- dingo8urbaby


I dont think were actively shopping him I just think he name is most commonly brought up....who the hell knows what Homer really up too
77rams
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There's a kind of freedom in being completely screwed...
Joined: 09.12.2006

Jul 7 @ 12:39 PM ET
According to "Rich", Calgary wants Couturier.
- mikel33


I want an Audi RS 5 convertible.
Deasr1
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mays Landing, NJ
Joined: 06.21.2009

Jul 7 @ 12:39 PM ET
Rich Smith
NHL - Source if Flyers and Flames pull of Couturier trade, it allows the Flyers to dump Meszaros cap, get possible top 5 pick + prospect.

(Not sure if its been posted)

- mikel33

Absolutely a horrid trade
mikel33
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, NJ
Joined: 08.09.2007

Jul 7 @ 12:39 PM ET
Coots: "Paul, are you trying to trade me? Seems like I'm involved in a ton of rumors."

Paul: "Nah, I'm just having fun. It's like feeding seagulls. Here, watch"

*30 seconds pass by*

Courturier's name is again brought up from 8 different Twitters.
Steelmanpa
Joined: 08.31.2008

Jul 7 @ 12:39 PM ET
Except for a few odd things, I am wondering if the offer sheet for Weber last ruined trading for Holmgren.
It was a poison pill to be sure and those poor franchises getting league revenue sharing are paying salaries with Flyers & other teams gift money by dropping their ticket prices to fill the required percentage of seats to get the revenue
Catch 22, NHL welfare

I am saying this as background for the thread here where we are going around looking for a number 1 D since Streit has flaws

Frankly I would offer sheet AP as a poison pill and offer a trade first......and as an alternate here is a question
I dont know how the retained salary thing would work, but perhaps a deal for Jaybo with the Blues retaining salary would be possible ?
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Jul 7 @ 12:41 PM ET
Holmgren is a pretty solid guy with the rest of the GMs. It is an important part of being able to get deals done. The Weber offer was a once in a career attempt by a GM. It would be a grave mistake to act frivolously.

Does it really serve any useful purpose, for example, if Holmgren makes an offer to Pietrangelo just to spite St. Louis or someone else trying to get him. My assumptions are: Holmgren has to first clear the cap space in order to present the offer and than after he has cleared the cap space he needs to be prepared to see St. Louis flip J.Bo to cover Pietrangelo. Why would he want to antagonize a GM?

Brian Murray said that it took him a full year to close the deal on Bobby Ryan, Holmgren does not want to upset all the guys he has to do deals with.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jul 7 @ 12:41 PM ET
Absolutely a horrid trade
- Deasr1

It is Feaster tho. That's probably only half the return.
nonpoint22
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 02.16.2011

Jul 7 @ 12:44 PM ET
It is Feaster tho. That's probably only half the return.
- hereticpride

You know that is a very good point....who knows what the guy is thinking....he really is a wild card cause he is such an awful GM
SMS4016
Joined: 01.27.2011

Jul 7 @ 12:45 PM ET
I dont think were actively shopping him I just think he name is most commonly brought up....who the hell knows what Homer really up too
- nonpoint22

Wouldn't it be cool if a gm that was fired or retired wrote a book detailing trades that were discussed or how trade went down and things of that nature.
77rams
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There's a kind of freedom in being completely screwed...
Joined: 09.12.2006

Jul 7 @ 12:48 PM ET
You know that is a very good point....who knows what the guy is thinking....he really is a wild card cause he is such an awful GM
- nonpoint22


Somebody had to carry on Howson's legacy.
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