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Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jul 6 @ 9:47 PM ET
If hagg reaches his potential he's a do-it-all, total package defender.
- JAKEw1234


And if Beaulieu reaches his, he's a first pair, star level offensive defenseman.
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Jul 6 @ 9:48 PM ET
And if Beaulieu reaches his, he's a first pair, star level offensive defenseman.
- Jsaquella

I'd say 1st pair, maybe not star level.
Yosimar89
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 05.11.2010

Jul 6 @ 9:48 PM ET
Hagg's all around game is more solid, but he's also more inconsistent. Beaulieu is a very good skater and talented offensive defenseman, who has shown more consistency to this point.

If I could get him and Moen for Talbot and Coburn right now, I'd probably agree to it. But the Simmonds/Plekanec part kiboshes it for me.

- Jsaquella

I would be okay with that, although would prefer to see Mezzy leave but nobody is gonna give up more than a bag of peanuts for him.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jul 6 @ 9:49 PM ET
You're just way too negative man
- JAKEw1234

I've been way too positive for a while too
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jul 6 @ 9:49 PM ET
Hagg's all around game is more solid, but he's also more inconsistent. Beaulieu is a very good skater and talented offensive defenseman, who has shown more consistency to this point.

If I could get him and Moen for Talbot and Coburn right now, I'd probably agree to it. But the Simmonds/Plekanec part kiboshes it for me.

- Jsaquella

wow you honeslty took the words out o fmy mouth from another thread yesterday.

100% agree.

alot has to do with team needs imo. if you have a stud Offensive dman than no real need for Beaulieu, but if you dont, he could be just he right fit
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

Jul 6 @ 9:50 PM ET
And if Beaulieu reaches his, he's a first pair, star level offensive defenseman.
- Jsaquella


If this deal is completed, Homer has pretty much retooled the defensive core to Lava's liking. I'm intrigued by the rumor, maybe flip Plekanec for that scoring winger?
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jul 6 @ 9:51 PM ET
I'd say 1st pair, maybe not star level.
- JAKEw1234


I've seen him compared to Letang. That's star level.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jul 6 @ 9:51 PM ET
If this deal is completed, Homer has pretty much retooled the defensive core to Lava's liking. I'm intrigued by the rumor, maybe flip Plekanec for that scoring winger?
- ravishingone


There'd have to be another trade, but I doubt the truthfulness of the rumor
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jul 6 @ 9:51 PM ET
That's a fair battle.
- Jsaquella


Maatta is good, developed very well over the last 2 years.
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jul 6 @ 9:53 PM ET
There'd have to be another trade, but I doubt the truthfulness of the rumor
- Jsaquella

again i agree
i dont think anythign like that will happen
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jul 6 @ 9:53 PM ET
i'm gonna take a guess and say you look at G as a more complete version of briere. like danny he has a concussion history and you're concerned that a guy his size will wear down and never play up to his contract. how close did i come?
- isaiah520

I was thinking all of that but the briere part. The player he reminds me off for some reason that didn't even play for the flyers yet was very good in his heyday was lafontaine albeit a more watered down version yes.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jul 6 @ 9:54 PM ET
wow you honeslty took the words out o fmy mouth from another thread yesterday.

100% agree.

alot has to do with team needs imo. if you have a stud Offensive dman than no real need for Beaulieu, but if you dont, he could be just he right fit

- Crimsoninja


Pretty much sums it up. He'd be a better fit in Philly than Montreal, because the Habs have PK.
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

Jul 6 @ 9:55 PM ET
There'd have to be another trade, but I doubt the truthfulness of the rumor
- Jsaquella


I'm not sure why they would want to move Plekanec unless they feel Galchenyuk is ready for a larger role.
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jul 6 @ 9:56 PM ET
Pretty much sums it up. He'd be a better fit in Philly than Montreal, because the Habs have PK.
- Jsaquella

thats the only reason i think there could be something to it

but then i think nope, they could get way more than a coburn/talbot package for him from some other team.


i would however go simmonds for beaulieu straight up
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jul 6 @ 9:56 PM ET
Maatta is good, developed very well over the last 2 years.
- ob18


He is, no question, but in his draft year, he was similar to Hagg....solid all around guy, nothing flashy
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jul 6 @ 9:57 PM ET
He is, no question, but in his draft year, he was similar to Hagg....solid all around guy, nothing flashy
- Jsaquella


He turned up the flash with that playoff run London had, that's really when he showed his game. He picked up this past season and continued.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jul 6 @ 9:58 PM ET
I'm not sure why they would want to move Plekanec unless they feel Galchenyuk is ready for a larger role.
- ravishingone


They have a fairly big number of centers on their roster, too. Plekanec is the best of the bunch, but perhaps Eller or Galchenyuk could step into a larger role, or maybe they feel Briere will thrive given a bigger role himself.
AGL_91
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: ON
Joined: 06.29.2013

Jul 6 @ 9:58 PM ET
I'm not sure why they would want to move Plekanec unless they feel Galchenyuk is ready for a larger role.
- ravishingone


that and Simmonds would be a great pick up for them
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jul 6 @ 9:58 PM ET
thats the only reason i think there could be something to it

but then i think nope, they could get way more than a coburn/talbot package for him from some other team.


i would however go simmonds for beaulieu straight up

- Crimsoninja


That's intriguing. It's a big role of the dice with a guy who is a key piece of the Flyers future plans.
AGL_91
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: ON
Joined: 06.29.2013

Jul 6 @ 10:00 PM ET
would Plekanec for Stewart somewhat fill Simmonds lose? Again I would rather not trade Simmer
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

Jul 6 @ 10:02 PM ET
That's intriguing. It's a big role of the dice with a guy who is a key piece of the Flyers future plans.
- Jsaquella


Simmonds trade value will never be higher. He is signed long-term to pretty friendly cap number for his production. Does a lot of the dirty work. He's a younger Hartnell and more experienced McGinn.
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Jul 6 @ 10:06 PM ET
that and Simmonds would be a great pick up for them
- AGL_91

We already have a West Coast Philly with LA, we don't need a Canadian Philly with Jagr, Simmonds, Briere, Coburn, and Talbot.
AGL_91
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: ON
Joined: 06.29.2013

Jul 6 @ 10:07 PM ET
Simmonds trade value will never be higher. He is signed long-term to pretty friendly cap number for his production. Does a lot of the dirty work. He's a younger Hartnell and more experienced McGinn.
- ravishingone


I got high hopes for McGinn. He seems to be one of those players who plays to the level of the players around him. When he was given time on first and second line last year he was great along the boards and had a good sense of open space between the crease and the hash marks.
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Jul 6 @ 10:07 PM ET
Simmonds trade value will never be higher. He is signed long-term to pretty friendly cap number for his production. Does a lot of the dirty work. He's a younger Hartnell and more experienced McGinn.
- ravishingone

Younger faster Hartnell and more skilled, grittier McGinn
SMS4016
Joined: 01.27.2011

Jul 6 @ 10:09 PM ET
All I know is it's nice to hAve some d talent to get excited about. And not just some bottom pairing maybes. Some top talent. God I love hockey. Come On october let's go
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