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Roytastic
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Portland, OR
Joined: 06.18.2013

Jul 6 @ 4:06 PM ET
There is nothing that has happened in the last few days that sets the market for Pietrangelo. And age has a lot to do with it. The players that are signing as Unrestricted Free Agents have earned that right due to either being 27 years of age, or having played 7 Accrued Seasons in the NHL. Pietrangelo has not done so. He is coming off of his EL contract. What sets the market for Pietrangelo, is the deals signed by players similar in age and ability to him. Such as P.K Subban. There is a huge difference between an RFA and a UFA. Look at a player such as Giroux. He signed a reasonable bridge contract between his EL deal and what he signed for recently. It's just rumors, but if Pietrangelo is indeed asking for 7M, I don't blame St. Louis for balking at that. 5M I can see, but not 7.
- MJL



Yea I think that may be what he's having a hard time grasping (AP I mean) There's a difference in price when a team is buying RFA years compared to UFA. He might look at a deal such as Streit's who got 5.25 and think he deserves a lot more than that. Which I would agree if this was his 3rd contract.

With that said.. If we traded for him I still wouldn't have an issue giving him 7+ to make him happy because he is a game changer and is certainly worth it.
flyler
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: LA, CA
Joined: 05.23.2008

Jul 6 @ 4:07 PM ET
Could this simply be the issue of waiting till the season starts to announce the Gagne signing? When pronger can be Ltir?
Roytastic
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Portland, OR
Joined: 06.18.2013

Jul 6 @ 4:09 PM ET
Are those your actual pairings? Pietrangelo would without a doubt be 1st pairing

Timonen - Pietrangelo
Streit - Schenn
Grossmann - Gustafsson

- JAKEw1234


No I kinda just threw them together real quick. But I would like to keep Kimo and Schenn together considering how well they played together last year.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 6 @ 4:13 PM ET
Could this simply be the issue of waiting till the season starts to announce the Gagne signing? When pronger can be Ltir?
- flyler


No, it wouldn't be. I think it's more that the Flyers have put a Gagne signing on hold.
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Jul 6 @ 4:16 PM ET
No I kinda just threw them together real quick. But I would like to keep Kimo and Schenn together considering how well they played together last year.
- Roytastic

I might agree with you but Kimmo plays well with everybody and Schenn looked very good away from Kimmo as well when he was put on a pairing with Lauridsen.
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Jul 6 @ 4:18 PM ET
Rich Smith ‏@ALLsportsINTEL 4m
NHL - I was informed at least 4 teams are believed to have contacted the Blues about Pietrangelo. Oilers, Flyers, Islanders, Flames
richiewinthecup
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: canada
Joined: 04.07.2010

Jul 6 @ 4:20 PM ET
Who is rich smith.He only has 2500 people following him.He is reporting now that philly,and 3 other teams contacted st.louis.You would think eklund would say something about this.I call B.S
Winning
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Put in Matt Read
Joined: 03.29.2011

Jul 6 @ 4:21 PM ET
Rich Smith ‏@ALLsportsINTEL 4m
NHL - I was informed at least 4 teams are believed to have contacted the Blues about Pietrangelo. Oilers, Flyers, Islanders, Flames

- JAKEw1234

whats the Flames got
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jul 6 @ 4:24 PM ET
whats the Flames got
- Winning

jankowski ++++!!!!!!!!
Don'tForgetTocchet
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ground Zero Brooklyn
Joined: 02.08.2007

Jul 6 @ 4:25 PM ET


alright somebodytext me if we get pietrangelo
Winning
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Put in Matt Read
Joined: 03.29.2011

Jul 6 @ 4:26 PM ET
alright somebodytext me if we get pietrangelo
- Don'tForgetTocchet

alright
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Jul 6 @ 4:30 PM ET
Who is rich smith.He only has 2500 people following him.He is reporting now that philly,and 3 other teams contacted st.louis.You would think eklund would say something about this.I call B.S
- richiewinthecup

Ya cause Eklund is so much more reliable
At least this guy has gotten almost everything he's said correct (I think he's like 6/6 so far in free agency). Whether or not he gets it from another reporter is beyond me, but he still has been getting it right so far, which is why I trust him more than Eklund, who's like what, 3 for 70?
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Jul 6 @ 4:31 PM ET
whats the Flames got
- Winning

I dunno maybe they were just inquiring about a price
dingo8urbaby
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.02.2009

Jul 6 @ 4:38 PM ET
Rich Smith ‏@ALLsportsINTEL 4m
NHL - I was informed at least 4 teams are believed to have contacted the Blues about Pietrangelo. Oilers, Flyers, Islanders, Flames

- JAKEw1234

Not that I'm buying into any of this but I would consider sending Gustafsson as apart of the package going the other way. Pietrangelo would be an upgrade and Gus would be a fair valued youth going the other way.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 6 @ 4:39 PM ET
Not that I'm buying into any of this but I would consider sending Gustafsson as apart of the package going the other way. Pietrangelo would be an upgrade and Gus would be a fair valued youth going the other way.
- dingo8urbaby


Maybe as part of the package, but not as the main piece of the package. That wouldn't get it done.
mikel33
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, NJ
Joined: 08.09.2007

Jul 6 @ 4:43 PM ET
I'm surprised Eklund has not quoted Rich Smith yet.
Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

Jul 6 @ 4:46 PM ET
Maybe as part of the package, but not as the main piece of the package. That wouldn't get it done.
- MJL

Agree, although I think Gustafsson will turn into a serviceable top 4 D man. His offensive skillset and puck-moving ability is going to get better IMO. I think Philly should hold on to this guy.
richiewinthecup
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: canada
Joined: 04.07.2010

Jul 6 @ 4:48 PM ET
Ya cause Eklund is so much more reliable
At least this guy has gotten almost everything he's said correct (I think he's like 6/6 so far in free agency). Whether or not he gets it from another reporter is beyond me, but he still has been getting it right so far, which is why I trust him more than Eklund, who's like what, 3 for 70?

- JAKEw1234
True but im not seeing it anywhere else.I did read a story about a soccer ref killing a player on the field and then the fans beheading the ref.
nonpoint22
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 02.16.2011

Jul 6 @ 4:49 PM ET
I'm surprised Eklund has not quoted Rich Smith yet.
- mikel33


Problem with that is that would his rumors correct and with EK you know you cant have that ......like has been previously said in this blog follow this guy he seems to actually have a clue he calls things correctly even before the TSN guys report....thats no BS
dingo8urbaby
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.02.2009

Jul 6 @ 4:51 PM ET
Maybe as part of the package, but not as the main piece of the package. That wouldn't get it done.
- MJL

That's what I was trying to say but yes, you are correct.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jul 6 @ 4:52 PM ET
Could this simply be the issue of waiting till the season starts to announce the Gagne signing? When pronger can be Ltir?
- flyler

need to trade someone first
jstross
Joined: 06.25.2012

Jul 6 @ 4:53 PM ET
if you're the Flyers do you do the following? Would St.Louis do it?

B. Schenn., Read, Coburn and Morin for AP?
dingo8urbaby
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.02.2009

Jul 6 @ 4:54 PM ET
Agree, although I think Gustafsson will turn into a serviceable top 4 D man. His offensive skillset and puck-moving ability is going to get better IMO. I think Philly should hold on to this guy.
- Pixote Andolini

I only suggest adding Gus to any package because you have to give to get. AP is clearly the best player in the deal and the focus but the blues aren't just giving this guy away.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jul 6 @ 4:55 PM ET
Could this simply be the issue of waiting till the season starts to announce the Gagne signing? When pronger can be Ltir?
- flyler

Don't worry homer hasn't met his AARP /publishers clearing house quota... I fully expect gagne on the roster this fall
nonpoint22
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 02.16.2011

Jul 6 @ 4:55 PM ET
if you're the Flyers do you do the following? Would St.Louis do it?

B. Schenn., Read, Coburn and Morin for AP?

- jstross

Seems like a bit too much.....I would rather trade Coots then Schenn for the simple reason that even if you sign Gags... if your giving up both schenn and read we are starting to have problems with wingers cause schenn can move to wing coots is more of a true center
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