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Fruitcakenipple
Location: NF
Joined: 01.12.2011

Jun 29 @ 12:14 PM ET
Chicks with bolt-ons who make out with yetis for $ aren't my type.
- DrChristianTroy



Oh...IC...
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Jun 29 @ 12:18 PM ET
I wish people would research recapture possibilities before stating what "any owner with a brain" would do...

If we keep him past this offseason, our circumvention benefit (aka figure for recapture penalty) continues to grow through 2017/18... Then when we are forced to trade him later (or sit him on our bench until he decides to retire), the recapture possibilities are even worse (much worse) than they are now.

He'd have to play out his FULL contract here or elsewhere for it to be worth the gamble and I don't think he will.

Buy him out... Then turn around and offer his cap hit to LeCavalier.

- DrChristianTroy


Agreed with you up til here.

Even if the Nucks buyout Lou and Ballard they have no room to sign Vinny. That would leave them with 9.5 million to sign another 8 players to fill out the roster.
docmorgan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: stall, Crosby, perry Giroux, T, BC
Joined: 01.06.2011

Jun 29 @ 12:25 PM ET
Chicks with bolt-ons who make out with yetis for $ aren't my type.
- DrChristianTroy

docmorgan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: stall, Crosby, perry Giroux, T, BC
Joined: 01.06.2011

Jun 29 @ 12:26 PM ET
I hope this mess is over soon - so sick and tired of TML fans.
DrChristianTroy
Location: 2028 Stanley Cup Champions
Joined: 11.10.2006

Jun 29 @ 12:28 PM ET
Agreed with you up til here.

Even if the Nucks buyout Lou and Ballard they have no room to sign Vinny. That would leave them with 9.5 million to sign another 8 players to fill out the roster.

- Iggysbff


Yes they do... More than enough in fact. No joke, the following fits under the cap with room to spare:

FORWARDS
Sedin ($6.100m) / Sedin ($6.100m) / Burrows ($4.500m) = $16.7
Booth ($4.250m) / LeCavalier ($5.333m) / Kesler ($5.000m) = $14.583
Higgins ($2.500m) / Schroeder ($1.100m) / Kassian ($0.870m) = $4.47
Sestito ($0.750m) / 4thLineCenter ($?) / (Hansen ($1.350m) = $2.1

DEFENSEMEN
Hamhuis ($4.500m) / Bieksa ($4.600m) = $9.1
Garrison ($4.600m) / Corrado ($0.599m) = $5.199
Ballard ($4.200m) / Tanev ($1.250m) = $5.45


GOALTENDERS
Schneider ($4.000m) = $4.85
Lack ($0.850m)

= $62, 452, 000 ($1,848,000 CAP SPACE to sign 4th line center & 7th dman)

That includes both Booth & Ballard... Trade Edler for significant pick(s)/prospect(s).
RF_4eva
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Fosco's son, BC
Joined: 09.11.2012

Jun 29 @ 12:30 PM ET
I hope this mess is over soon - so sick and tired of TML fans.
- docmorgan

They think they know everything about the canucks...
And telling us more of what we already know.
We get it, you guys are smart asses.
Isles_since_6
New York Islanders
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 07.13.2009

Jun 29 @ 12:34 PM ET
I hope this mess is over soon - so sick and tired of TML fans.
- docmorgan


most of us other team fans wouldn't even be posting here if your blogger didn't throw up ridiculous trade proposals daily at luongo's ransom of a return.


RF_4eva
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Fosco's son, BC
Joined: 09.11.2012

Jun 29 @ 12:36 PM ET
most of us other team fans wouldn't even be posting here if your blogger didn't throw up ridiculous trade proposals daily at luongo's ransom of a return.
- Isles_since_6

Thats how he gets hits.. Derp
Isles_since_6
New York Islanders
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 07.13.2009

Jun 29 @ 12:39 PM ET
Thats how he gets hits.. Derp
- RF_4eva


I realize that, the funny thing is that so many of you seem to believe his ridiculous proposals are equal value for both sides.

The reason you get so many different team's fans in here is that the majority of your posters need to be corrected on what Luongo's value actually is.

Then the next day there's another laughable rehash of the same thing.

Trading Schneider is the best way out of this situation for Gillis, providing he's talked to Luongo and received a guarantee that if they keep him he'll report and continue to play for the team. If Gillis hasn't talked to him about that and moves Schneider... it could be awful for the Canucks if Luongo continues to demand a trade.


RF_4eva
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Fosco's son, BC
Joined: 09.11.2012

Jun 29 @ 12:43 PM ET
I realize that, the funny thing is that so many of you seem to believe his ridiculous proposals are equal value for both sides.

The reason you get so many different team's fans in here is that the majority of your posters need to be corrected on what Luongo's value actually is.

Then the next day there's another laughable rehash of the same thing.

Trading Schneider is the best way out of this situation for Gillis, providing he's talked to Luongo and received a guarantee that if they keep him he'll report and continue to play for the team. If Gillis hasn't talked to him about that and moves Schneider... it could be awful for the Canucks if Luongo continues to demand a trade.

- Isles_since_6

Thats because we know the team.
In all honesty I think most nucks fans here are just having fun with the situation because we just want this resolved.
MG has taken this way too far and shouldve traded lu a year ago
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jun 29 @ 12:44 PM ET
I hope this mess is over soon - so sick and tired of TML fans.
- docmorgan

+ 1
Isles_since_6
New York Islanders
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 07.13.2009

Jun 29 @ 12:48 PM ET
Thats because we know the team.
In all honesty I think most nucks fans here are just having fun with the situation because we just want this resolved.
MG has taken this way too far and shouldve traded lu a year ago

- RF_4eva


some of them are, I'll give you that. Some of them still are in major denial about Luo's lack of value due to the contract. If they buy him out they still have schneider who I believe is a much more technically sound goaltender and will continue to be solid for a lot longer than Luongo will be. The issue is whether or not Gillis is determined to get assets back. If he wants a return he'll need to move schneider which long term could be a bad thing for the Canucks. If he buys out Luo he'll have to eat crow and admit he made a series of bad mistakes. I think his ego is too large to do that.

thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Jun 29 @ 12:53 PM ET
Yes they do... More than enough in fact. No joke, the following fits under the cap with room to spare:

FORWARDS
Sedin ($6.100m) / Sedin ($6.100m) / Burrows ($4.500m) = $16.7
Booth ($4.250m) / LeCavalier ($5.333m) / Kesler ($5.000m) = $14.583
Higgins ($2.500m) / Schroeder ($1.100m) / Kassian ($0.870m) = $4.47
Sestito ($0.750m) / 4thLineCenter ($?) / (Hansen ($1.350m) = $2.1

DEFENSEMEN
Hamhuis ($4.500m) / Bieksa ($4.600m) = $9.1
Garrison ($4.600m) / Corrado ($0.599m) = $5.199
Ballard ($4.200m) / Tanev ($1.250m) = $5.45


GOALTENDERS
Schneider ($4.000m) = $4.85
Lack ($0.850m)

= $62, 452, 000 ($1,848,000 CAP SPACE to sign 4th line center & 7th dman)

That includes both Booth & Ballard... Trade Edler for significant pick(s)/prospect(s).

- DrChristianTroy

Looks pretty f@cking good to me.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jun 29 @ 12:54 PM ET
I realize that, the funny thing is that so many of you seem to believe his ridiculous proposals are equal value for both sides.

The reason you get so many different team's fans in here is that the majority of your posters need to be corrected on what Luongo's value actually is.
Then the next day there's another laughable rehash of the same thing.

Trading Schneider is the best way out of this situation for Gillis, providing he's talked to Luongo and received a guarantee that if they keep him he'll report and continue to play for the team. If Gillis hasn't talked to him about that and moves Schneider... it could be awful for the Canucks if Luongo continues to demand a trade.

- Isles_since_6



WOW!! that is quite the assumption.

Or, like you, they think their opinion is superior to others, your opinion means shlt to me, I don't know how others feel about you, but you continue to have the desire to be right, you're only right in your own head.
Boinker
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 10.24.2010

Jun 29 @ 12:56 PM ET
I'm pretty shocked. I don't buy it.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jun 29 @ 12:59 PM ET
Looks pretty f@cking good to me.
- thundachunk

But you're not Iggy, thank the gods.
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Jun 29 @ 12:59 PM ET
WOW!! that is quite the assumption.

Or, like you, they think their opinion is superior to others, your opinion means shlt to me, I don't know how others feel about you, but you continue to have the desire to be right, you're only right in your own head.

- A_SteamingLombardi

Has he told anyone to do their homework yet today? We are all on here every day because we absolutely know nothing about hockey or value of players.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jun 29 @ 1:00 PM ET
I'm pretty shocked. I don't buy it.
- Boinker

Hank told us all yesterday that something was up.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jun 29 @ 1:05 PM ET
Has he told anyone to do their homework yet today? We are all on here every day because we absolutely know nothing about hockey or value of players.
- thundachunk

I treat this site as entertainment, others seem to use it to get a rise out of others, I pity their lives. If you HAVE to be right on a hockey chat room there are many things wrong in your life.
Isles_since_6
New York Islanders
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 07.13.2009

Jun 29 @ 1:10 PM ET
WOW!! that is quite the assumption.

Or, like you, they think their opinion is superior to others, your opinion means shlt to me, I don't know how others feel about you, but you continue to have the desire to be right, you're only right in your own head.

- A_SteamingLombardi


the only reason you'd get defensive about that comment is if you feel it's directed at you.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jun 29 @ 1:14 PM ET
the only reason you'd get defensive about that comment is if you feel it's directed at you.
- Isles_since_6

It's got nothing to do with me, guess you missed the part about your opinion being shlt to me.
I-own_da-Northwest
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cariboo, BC
Joined: 08.08.2009

Jun 29 @ 1:18 PM ET
most of us other team fans wouldn't even be posting here if your blogger didn't throw up ridiculous trade proposals daily at luongo's ransom of a return.
- Isles_since_6

Tavares for loungo+Alberts and a conditional 5th?
Isles_since_6
New York Islanders
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 07.13.2009

Jun 29 @ 1:19 PM ET
It's got nothing to do with me, guess you missed the part about your opinion being shlt to me.
- A_SteamingLombardi


lol, as if your opinion means anything to me. When you post something relevant or intelligent I'll be sure to take note of it.

Some of us are here to discuss hockey, some of you are here to express your insecurities and make personal attacks.
Isles_since_6
New York Islanders
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 07.13.2009

Jun 29 @ 1:19 PM ET
Tavares for loungo+Alberts and a conditional 5th?
- I-own_da-Northwest


not enough, we'd have to throw in strome and hamonic, plus our first.
I-own_da-Northwest
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cariboo, BC
Joined: 08.08.2009

Jun 29 @ 1:22 PM ET
not enough, we'd have to throw in strome and hamonic, plus our first.
- Isles_since_6

Don't patronize me, I'm trying to work something out that's fair with your club and you're mocking me
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