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PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 28 @ 1:03 PM ET
Honestly for your team to get in the top three it would take Couterierierier, #1 this year, #1 NEXT year, and your #2 this year
- Ripped Fuel


Possibly. Only because none of those teams would like to trade the pick. Therefore you would need to overpay.
Ripped Fuel
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 11.01.2006

Jun 28 @ 1:07 PM ET
That's really NOT over paying...

the drop off from #3 to #11 is wrth that and maybe more...

Carolina is gonna trade out..they can win next year...I wouldn't mind giving up Vanek and the #8 for the #5
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 28 @ 1:08 PM ET
Possibly. Only because none of those teams would like to trade the pick. Therefore you would need to overpay.
- PhillySportsGuy



You'd have to move up in steps... the price to get any of the top-4 clubs to settle for moving down to #11 would be huge... Flyers would probably have to first get into the 5-7 range, then try to move higher from there.
griouxmvp2012
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 06.27.2011

Jun 28 @ 1:09 PM ET
We can't move our #1 next year. Nobody will go the the draft.
- 77rams

Isn't the draft next year weak??
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 28 @ 1:10 PM ET
That's really NOT over paying...

the drop off from #3 to #11 is wrth that and maybe more...

Carolina is gonna trade out..they can win next year...I wouldn't mind giving up Vanek and the #8 for the #5

- Ripped Fuel


Couturier was the 8th overall pick and has the makings of a future selke candidate. This is a deep draft so the 11th pick would still bring a good player. No one really wants Vanek because of his contract. Carolina is looking for defenseman
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jun 28 @ 1:18 PM ET
That's really NOT over paying...

the drop off from #3 to #11 is wrth that and maybe more...

Carolina is gonna trade out..they can win next year...I wouldn't mind giving up Vanek and the #8 for the #5

- Ripped Fuel


Ripped! Where the hell have you been? I heard on the Fan 590 you always wanted to be a Flyers fan!
Trainfellow
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 06.23.2012

Jun 28 @ 1:19 PM ET
I read a separate interview that he couldn't wait to play and live in the 10th most important city in the State of New York and to have his pick of women covered in sweaters for 10 months out of the year.
- johndewar



Hey I like my sweater wearing women! Only time I have a problem is when theyre wearing a Sabres' sweater!
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jun 28 @ 1:21 PM ET
Hey I like my sweater wearing women! Only time I have a problem is when theyre wearing a Sabres' sweater!
- Trainfellow


johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jun 28 @ 1:22 PM ET
Oh, hey, look. The Devils are broke.

http://www.thefourthperio...ts/pagnotta/dp130628.html
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 28 @ 1:25 PM ET
Oh, hey, look. The Devils are broke.

http://www.thefourthperio...ts/pagnotta/dp130628.html

- johndewar


Jeeze. I think what we really need is more expansion! Seattle anyone?
Ripped Fuel
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 11.01.2006

Jun 28 @ 1:26 PM ET
Couturier was the 8th overall pick and has the makings of a future selke candidate. This is a deep draft so the 11th pick would still bring a good player. No one really wants Vanek because of his contract. Carolina is looking for defenseman
- PhillySportsGuy



Vanek has one year left....I can name 8 teams off the top of my head that would take on a year at 7 to win right now...Detroit, Montreal, Islanders, Ottawa, Nashville, Carolina, St Louis, Winnipeg.

Put Vanek with Galchenyuk and watch that show
aosplayo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 01.14.2008

Jun 28 @ 1:28 PM ET
Why would a team overpay the Penguins in a trade for Letang? The Pens have no leverage here imo.

I imagine responses would be hes a franchise Dman, which I agree, but then how is 7m a year an overpayment for a franchise Dman? Im so confused.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jun 28 @ 1:29 PM ET
You think there is any way we could get into the top 3. What do you think it will cost??
- griouxmvp2012

Apparently Toronto was willing to pay 32 million for Tampa's pick.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 28 @ 1:32 PM ET
Why would a team overpay the Penguins in a trade for Letang? The Pens have no leverage here imo.

I imagine responses would be hes a franchise Dman, which I agree, but then how is 7m a year an overpayment for a franchise Dman? Im so confused.

- aosplayo


If a team trades for Letang on Sunday, they will have negotiated a deal or know they can extend him
griouxmvp2012
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 06.27.2011

Jun 28 @ 1:35 PM ET
Apparently Toronto was willing to pay 32 million for Tampa's pick.
- mayorofangrytown

I have a strong feeling we get into the top 4 I don't know why I love coots but I would trade him to get barkov or dourin without blinking
Pat MaGroin
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Kensington, PA
Joined: 06.03.2007

Jun 28 @ 1:37 PM ET
Apparently Toronto was willing to pay 32 million for Tampa's pick.
- mayorofangrytown


Didn't the NHL get wind of that propose trade for Vinny L. and say it circumstances the CBA? Or did that deal never come to fruition?
Deasr1
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mays Landing, NJ
Joined: 06.21.2009

Jun 28 @ 1:38 PM ET
what time does the draft start?
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 28 @ 1:39 PM ET
I have a strong feeling we get into the top 4 I don't know why I love coots but I would trade him to get barkov or dourin without blinking
- griouxmvp2012


I don't think they will. I think Homer wants to see it through with the young guys.
griouxmvp2012
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 06.27.2011

Jun 28 @ 1:39 PM ET
what time does the draft start?
- Deasr1

I'm not sure i think 2 or 3 it's weird that they are doing every round in one day
Pat MaGroin
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Kensington, PA
Joined: 06.03.2007

Jun 28 @ 1:39 PM ET
what time does the draft start?
- Deasr1


3
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 28 @ 1:39 PM ET
what time does the draft start?
- Deasr1

3pm
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 28 @ 1:40 PM ET
I'm not sure i think 2 or 3 it's weird that they are doing every round in one day
- griouxmvp2012


I like it. Grab some food and beer and just sit through
aosplayo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 01.14.2008

Jun 28 @ 1:40 PM ET
If a team trades for Letang on Sunday, they will have negotiated a deal or know they can extend him
- PhillySportsGuy




Yea I get it. I was just thrown off by the 7 mil or 7.5 being too much of a hit for Letang, but most would agree hes a franchise guy. Thanks what those guys make.

I think Im more frustrated that hes a penguin, otherwise wed be all over this. Hed be a good piece to add.
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Jun 28 @ 1:40 PM ET
Jeeze. I think what we really need is more expansion! Seattle anyone?
- PhillySportsGuy

my friend from the Seattle area said they are building a new arena for a basketball and hockey team
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Jun 28 @ 1:42 PM ET
I like it. Grab some food and beer and just sit through
- PhillySportsGuy

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