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five4fighting10
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Cherry Hill, NJ
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jun 29 @ 12:03 AM ET
It's a conundrum...I know it's a stretch, but what if you get a fully healthy lineup, without Coburn:

Schenn Timonen
Streit Grossmann
Mez Gustafsson
Gervais
Lauri

- exlund

IF healthy, I wouldn't mind that defense at all. A healthy Meszaros goes a long way towards making this defense solid again. Prior to his injuries, he was playing great.
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

Jun 29 @ 12:03 AM ET
Exactly, just fun to talk about...probably 0.000001% chance of happening.

Of course, the Flyers traded Ross Lonsberry, Tom Bladon and Orest Kindrachuk to the Pens for a 1st rounder, back in the day

- Jsaquella



I didn't think the Avs and Flames would do any deals after the O'Reilly situation for a while. I was proven wrong. I hope the Letang trade happens, it would make the rivalry even more crazy. BTW, I would have more interest in Letang even with a higher cap hit then Edler, just my opinion. Very slim chance of happening.
cfish99
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: marlton, NJ
Joined: 07.02.2008

Jun 29 @ 12:04 AM ET
Only way I give them Cousins is if they make us take Fleury in the deal
- wilsonecho91

What's a salary cap?
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Jun 29 @ 12:05 AM ET
It's a conundrum...I know it's a stretch, but what if you get a fully healthy lineup, without Coburn:

Schenn Timonen
Streit Grossmann
Mez Gustafsson
Gervais
Lauri

- exlund

My worry with that is having no shutdown guy on the 3rd pairing. They'll get exposed a good amount without that defensive-guy.
puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Old Time Hockey
Joined: 08.14.2011

Jun 29 @ 12:05 AM ET
I didn't think the Avs and Flames would do any deals after the O'Reilly situation for a while. I was proven wrong. I hope the Letang trade happens, it would make the rivalry even more crazy. BTW, I would have more interest in Letang even with a higher cap hit then Edler, just my opinion. Very slim chance of happening.
- ravishingone



Edler can't leave Vancouver yet, he a few ass chewing sessions scheduled with his new coach.
jstross
Joined: 06.25.2012

Jun 29 @ 12:06 AM ET
How would Letang rank on the Flyers D?
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Jun 29 @ 12:09 AM ET
How would Letang rank on the Flyers D?
- jstross

#1 guy. Dude was just nominated for a Norris. Even though the Norris is more of a competition between offensive-dmen these days, it still has to amount to some significance regarding his effectiveness as a Dman.
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

Jun 29 @ 12:12 AM ET
Edler can't leave Vancouver yet, he a few ass chewing sessions scheduled with his new coach.
- puckhead17


Torts with the Sedins is must watch TV, that is going to be awesome. How many blocked shots do you see the Sedins have this season combined? I'll set the over/under at 8. Torts may have a nervous breakdown right on the bench.
exlund
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Manywhere, NJ
Joined: 02.16.2007

Jun 29 @ 12:14 AM ET
My worry with that is having no shutdown guy on the 3rd pairing. They'll get exposed a good amount without that defensive-guy.
- JAKEw1234


It's possible, but I don't think we can assume they would struggle either...Mez and Gustafsson have the ability to play well in all zones...but also, I think you have to see what you get from these guys given the circumstances.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 29 @ 12:15 AM ET
showing your age bro

(kidding, I remember that trade like yesterday)

Behn Wilson??

- puckhead17


Yep.
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Jun 29 @ 12:16 AM ET
#1 guy. Dude was just nominated for a Norris. Even though the Norris is more of a competition between offensive-dmen these days, it still has to amount to some significance regarding his effectiveness as a Dman.
- JAKEw1234


#1 offensively? Kimmo and Streit would be close. And Letang would be what, average defensively?
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Jun 29 @ 12:16 AM ET
It's possible, but I don't think we can assume they would struggle either...Mez and Gustafsson have the ability to play well in all zones...but also, I think you have to see what you get from these guys given the circumstances.
- exlund

Also consider that both guys are offensive guys. If they were paired with a defensive guy then they could be left more to play their styles. I think we'd see more production from Gus if he was paired with Grossmann or Coburn.
puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Old Time Hockey
Joined: 08.14.2011

Jun 29 @ 12:17 AM ET
Torts with the Sedins is must watch TV, that is going to be awesome. How many blocked shots do you see the Sedins have this season combined? I'll set the over/under at 8. Torts may have a nervous breakdown right on the bench.
- ravishingone



man thats funny!!!

I have to think he'll calm for a year or 2, he was really shocked to get booted in NY, but he needed it, look at how the other coaches act around the league, and that blocking everything has to be curbed a bit
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Jun 29 @ 12:18 AM ET
#1 offensively? Kimmo and Streit would be close. And Letang would be what, average defensively?
- wolfhounds

Average yes. Still better than Streit. And his pt/g this season shows that Letang would produce more offense. I think that's more because he likes to carry it up alot and play forward on the rush. He's like Mike Green. In that respect, I guess Kimmo would be the most offensive as a defenseman. Letang would produce alot of offense from playing forward
puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Old Time Hockey
Joined: 08.14.2011

Jun 29 @ 12:20 AM ET
Yep.
- Jsaquella



I thought so, your memory is way better then mine.

unrelated to the flyers, but I still remember, also like yesterday, as a kid watching the Rangers bruins deal for Espo & Ratelle. (it was on the 11:00 news.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 29 @ 12:23 AM ET
I thought so, your memory is way better then mine.

unrelated to the flyers, but I still remember, also like yesterday, as a kid watching the Rangers bruins deal for Espo & Ratelle. (it was on the 11:00 news.

- puckhead17


I remember that one, too...Hearing Espo tell the story is great...

He was road roomates with Orr, and Cherry came up to see them. Orr was sitting by the window, and Espo knew what was coming.

He says, "Don, I can live with it, I'm a man. But if you tell me I was traded to New York, I'm going to jump out that window"

Cherry says, to Orr, "Hey Bobby, You want to get out of Phil's way?"
flyerscup2011
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Future lottery winner
Joined: 06.21.2010

Jun 29 @ 12:26 AM ET
just read a blog on here by john jaeckel suggesting the hawks might move nick leddy. Hes a player i've had interest in wonder what we'd have to give up to get him
puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Old Time Hockey
Joined: 08.14.2011

Jun 29 @ 12:28 AM ET
I remember that one, too...Hearing Espo tell the story is great...

He was road roomates with Orr, and Cherry came up to see them. Orr was sitting by the window, and Espo knew what was coming.

He says, "Don, I can live with it, I'm a man. But if you tell me I was traded to New York, I'm going to jump out that window"

Cherry says, to Orr, "Hey Bobby, You want to get out of Phil's way?"

- Jsaquella



Wow!! I do remember that story somewhat now that you mention it, Great!!



Park was exchanged for Vadnais & there was a throw in somewhere? Joe Zanussi?
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 29 @ 12:28 AM ET
just read a blog on here by john jaeckel suggesting the hawks might move nick leddy. Hes a player i've had interest in wonder what we'd have to give up to get him
- flyerscup2011


He was Petr Klima in the playoffs...nailed to the bench...he's intriguing, though
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 29 @ 12:29 AM ET
Wow!! I do remember that story somewhat now that you mention it, Great!!



Park was exchanged for Vadnais & there was a throw in somewhere? Joe Zanussi?

- puckhead17


I forget all the details, outside of Espo, Ratelle, Park and Vadnais
puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Old Time Hockey
Joined: 08.14.2011

Jun 29 @ 12:29 AM ET
He was Petr Klima in the playoffs...nailed to the bench...he's intriguing, though
- Jsaquella


puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Old Time Hockey
Joined: 08.14.2011

Jun 29 @ 12:32 AM ET
I forget all the details, outside of Espo, Ratelle, Park and Vadnais
- Jsaquella


The Joe Zanussi throw in was a trivia question once during a game

I loved how Gene Hart used to describe John Davidson, when he's on, he's great, when he's off, he's awful, or something close to that.

Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 29 @ 12:33 AM ET

- puckhead17


XM's been playing the audio of that goal all day. Klima played two shifts in a 3 OT game and scores the winner.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 29 @ 12:34 AM ET
The Joe Zanussi throw in was a trivia question once during a game

I loved how Gene Hart used to describe John Davidson, when he's on, he's great, when he's off, he's awful, or something close to that.

- puckhead17


I miss Gene Hart. I watch the old clips every so often...I love him losing his mind when Clarke scored the OT winner in game two in 1974.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jun 29 @ 12:34 AM ET
just read a blog on here by john jaeckel suggesting the hawks might move nick leddy. Hes a player i've had interest in wonder what we'd have to give up to get him
- flyerscup2011

I think they will get a low first round pick for him.
From the Flyers, #41 and a good prospect?

I think he is an upgrade over Gus by a little, but I'd rather see how Gus does and keep the assets.

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