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Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 28 @ 11:46 PM ET
Interesting. Even if the extension is agreed to before the trade?
- jstross


Yes, because technically the extension can't be filed with the NHL and become official until after July 5th.
puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Old Time Hockey
Joined: 08.14.2011

Jun 28 @ 11:48 PM ET
Sure, why can't Homer and the agent have a gentleman's agreement in principle. Once he is officially acquired, sign the paperwork. He'll get 8 years and a ton of money if they acquire him and a full NMC. I think he wants a little more money and a full NMC so they don't move him to bottom feeding team in a few years.
- ravishingone


in bold, between Philly & Pitt?
wilsonecho91
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A dream to some...a nightmare to others, AK
Joined: 11.13.2007

Jun 28 @ 11:50 PM ET
Only way I give them Cousins is if they make us take Fleury in the deal
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

Jun 28 @ 11:50 PM ET
in bold, between Philly & Pitt?
- puckhead17


No, between agent and Homer as far as contract terms. In my opinion, Shero will take the best offer. It's not like he will have half the NHL knocking on his door because of Letang's contract demands. Only a few select teams will want to give him Weber money and full NMC.
puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Old Time Hockey
Joined: 08.14.2011

Jun 28 @ 11:50 PM ET
Only way I give them Cousins is if they make us take Fleury in the deal
- wilsonecho91


and Reese "fixes" him
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jun 28 @ 11:51 PM ET
giving up all that for letang would be stupid
jstross
Joined: 06.25.2012

Jun 28 @ 11:52 PM ET
Sure, why can't Homer and the agent have a gentleman's agreement in principle. Once he is officially acquired, sign the paperwork. He'll get 8 years and a ton of money if they acquire him and a full NMC. I think he wants a little more money and a full NMC so they don't move him to bottom feeding team in a few years.
- ravishingone


Ugh. For Homer, he'd need to see the fine print. Shero is no dummy. Is Letang in this system worth $7 mil per? Above my pay grade. I'd hate to lose Schenn to pay more money for a player, but it is a need. I'd stay patient and wait.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Jun 28 @ 11:53 PM ET
Only way I give them Cousins is if they make us take Fleury in the deal
- wilsonecho91


Why in God's name would you want Fleury?
five4fighting10
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Cherry Hill, NJ
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jun 28 @ 11:53 PM ET
Just to weigh in on a few things I read while skimming the previous pages.

1. I don't see a chance in this world, or any other world, that the Penguins and Flyers agree to a Letang trade. Yeah we traded Hamhuis' rights to them the other year but that was because we knew where he was going in the end and wanted to recoup the pick we gave up for his rights in the first place.

2. I'm not for or against moving Coburn. But Homer better have a darn good clue who's going to replace his 20+ minutes of ice time/game if he moves him. And the answer is not relying on Streit or counting on the health of Grossmann and Meszaros.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Jun 28 @ 11:54 PM ET
Ugh. For Homer, he'd need to see the fine print. Shero is no dummy. Is Letang in this system worth $7 mil per? Above my pay grade. I'd hate to lose Schenn to pay more money for a player, but it is a need. I'd stay patient and wait.
- jstross


Can't see us ever dealing with the Pens for something like this..too much worry both ways that pieces traded come back to bite the other team.
justahockeyguy2
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 06.05.2013

Jun 28 @ 11:54 PM ET
relax everyone, no way this is going to happen... i think
puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Old Time Hockey
Joined: 08.14.2011

Jun 28 @ 11:55 PM ET
No, between agent and Homer as far as contract terms. In my opinion, Shero will take the best offer. It's not like he will have half the NHL knocking on his door because of Letang's contract demands. Only a few select teams will want to give him Weber money and full NMC.
- ravishingone



That is tough $$$ but it makes us better, no doubt, but I can see the price coming down once the first puck is dropped. I understand the asking price & the chance at hand, but we lost Carle (no, he's not Letang not even close), for nothing.
Shero does really well, trade package wise unloading potential UFA's

I thought Toronto was his desired destination??
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

Jun 28 @ 11:55 PM ET
Ugh. For Homer, he'd need to see the fine print. Shero is no dummy. Is Letang in this system worth $7 mil per? Above my pay grade. I'd hate to lose Schenn to pay more money for a player, but it is a need. I'd stay patient and wait.
- jstross


For the going rate of offensive d-man, the going rate for a 26 year old offensive d-man is closer to $7.5 million. This issue will be resolved by Sunday in my opinion for Letang and the Pens. Not sure which way it ends, but I have little doubt Homer has made a phone call to Shero.
jstross
Joined: 06.25.2012

Jun 28 @ 11:55 PM ET
Can't see us ever dealing with the Pens for something like this..too much worry both ways that pieces traded come back to bite the other team.
- Hextall271


Fun to talk about, but not sure how realistic it is.
puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Old Time Hockey
Joined: 08.14.2011

Jun 28 @ 11:56 PM ET
Can't see us ever dealing with the Pens for something like this..too much worry both ways that pieces traded come back to bite the other team.
- Hextall271


I agree with you!!

but, Richards & Carter were........................nevermind
justahockeyguy2
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 06.05.2013

Jun 28 @ 11:57 PM ET
Hockey Buzz Eklund ‏@Eklund 5m

Habs source:"i hope you're able to beef up servers this weekend in Quebec!...Can't say any more but if they do pull this off ...a parade!"



dont worry guys, this has to be Letang...
wilsonecho91
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A dream to some...a nightmare to others, AK
Joined: 11.13.2007

Jun 28 @ 11:58 PM ET
Why in God's name would you want Fleury?
- Hextall271

I don't - I was merely participating in banter
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Jun 28 @ 11:58 PM ET
Fun to talk about, but not sure how realistic it is.
- jstross


Can't see it.. I also don't see why we are so hot and horny to trade Coburn.. Slot him correctly and don't ask him to be a puck mover etc, then we are good.. Hard to replace his minutes.. Mesz is off the books after this year so why lose Coburn unless you hate the composition of the d and have a plan to change it.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 28 @ 11:58 PM ET
Fun to talk about, but not sure how realistic it is.
- jstross


Exactly, just fun to talk about...probably 0.000001% chance of happening.

Of course, the Flyers traded Ross Lonsberry, Tom Bladon and Orest Kindrachuk to the Pens for a 1st rounder, back in the day
exlund
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Manywhere, NJ
Joined: 02.16.2007

Jun 28 @ 11:58 PM ET
Just to weigh in on a few things I read while skimming the previous pages.

1. I don't see a chance in this world, or any other world, that the Penguins and Flyers agree to a Letang trade. Yeah we traded Hamhuis' rights to them the other year but that was because we knew where he was going in the end and wanted to recoup the pick we gave up for his rights in the first place.

2. I'm not for or against moving Coburn. But Homer better have a darn good clue who's going to replace his 20+ minutes of ice time/game if he moves him. And the answer is not relying on Streit or counting on the health of Grossmann and Meszaros.

- five4fighting10


It's a conundrum...I know it's a stretch, but what if you get a fully healthy lineup, without Coburn:

Schenn Timonen
Streit Grossmann
Mez Gustafsson
Gervais
Lauri
jstross
Joined: 06.25.2012

Jun 28 @ 11:59 PM ET
For the going rate of offensive d-man, the going rate for a 26 year old offensive d-man is closer to $7.5 million. This issue will be resolved by Sunday in my opinion for Letang and the Pens. Not sure which way it ends, but I have little doubt Homer has made a phone call to Shero.
- ravishingone


It's going to be interesting that's for sure. If the Flyers do end up with Letang for Schenn, Cousins and the 2nd rd pick Coby is gonzo to move up to get another young forward in the draft.

Sure will be interesting.
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

Jun 28 @ 11:59 PM ET
Hockey Buzz Eklund ‏@Eklund 5m

Habs source:"i hope you're able to beef up servers this weekend in Quebec!...Can't say any more but if they do pull this off ...a parade!"



dont worry guys, this has to be Letang...

- justahockeyguy2


Having they coveted Vinny Lecavalier for years? I would think that would be the move considering Markov is making good money and Subban will need a pay increase in the near future.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Jun 28 @ 11:59 PM ET
I don't - I was merely participating in banter
- wilsonecho91


lol cool.. I'd rather have Leighton.
puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Old Time Hockey
Joined: 08.14.2011

Jun 29 @ 12:00 AM ET
Exactly, just fun to talk about...probably 0.000001% chance of happening.

Of course, the Flyers traded Ross Lonsberry, Tom Bladon and Orest Kindrachuk to the Pens for a 1st rounder, back in the day

- Jsaquella



showing your age bro

(kidding, I remember that trade like yesterday)

Behn Wilson??
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Jun 29 @ 12:01 AM ET
Having they coveted Vinny Lecavalier for years? I would think that would be the move considering Markov is making good money and Subban will need a pay increase in the near future.
- ravishingone


Yep.. Vinny will be a Hab by July... bank on it..
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