Which team is in rebuild here? Watching hinkie pull off those deals last night makes me more frustrated at the flyers lack of direction other than making the playoffs.

And the two weeks of winning at the end of the year. Ugh what a colossal error
- Just5

What makes what Hinkie did, any different from what Holmgren did in trading Richards and Carter?

Could be. That's the thing with Nichushkin and Lindholm. The ceilings are high, but they might turn out to be simply solid NHLers...or even the next Hugh Jessiman
- Jsaquella

Lindholm was less than impressive on YouTube. Not sure what that means

it depends on what is meant by replace briere. if that is narrowly defined, i would agree, but if it just means adding another scorer to play in the top 6 and/or PP, i don't think that would be dumb.
- isaiah520

sounded pretty specific, and ignorant, to me.


if they meant general top six forward i would think that's what they would say, not name a name

I would be surprised to see Nichushkin go in the top 3, I'm pretty confident he isn't going to the Preds at #4. Barkov has nearly the same ceiling and none of the KHL factor be worried about. I just can't see him going before Barkov, Drouin, or Lindholm.
- ravishingone

I love Barkov. The two guys I have been high on from January or so on have been him and Zadorov.

Did you see Feaster asking GMs to call him for Camallari? What an asshat. You mine-as-well say, this guy is worthless and we will be using a CBO. Guy is terrible and I hope Homer has been calling.
- coffee junkie

The Canucks still say they're not buying out Luongo...I'd be stunned if anyone took that contract on

The Canucks still say they're not buying out Luongo...I'd be stunned if anyone took that contract on
- Jsaquella

They have until July 4th to keep saying it.

The Canucks still say they're not buying out Luongo...I'd be stunned if anyone took that contract on
- Jsaquella

good luck to them


have they read the recapture bit?

good luck to them


have they read the recapture bit?
- Don'tForgetTocchet

You mean the part that most journalists called "The Luongo Rule"?

Guessing they skimmed over it.

I would be surprised to see Nichushkin go in the top 3, I'm pretty confident he isn't going to the Preds at #4. Barkov has nearly the same ceiling and none of the KHL factor be worried about. I just can't see him going before Barkov, Drouin, or Lindholm.
- ravishingone

There is no KHL factor. He will be playing in NA next season.

They have until July 4th to keep saying it.
- MJL

True, he does have the same NMC that prevented Briere, Bryzgalov and Lecavalier from having to clear waivers.

The Canucks still say they're not buying out Luongo...I'd be stunned if anyone took that contract on
- Jsaquella

I think this is a case where if they buyout Luongo someone in their management will lose their job so they're trying everything possible to just dump him.

You mean the part that most journalists called "The Luongo Rule"?

Guessing they skimmed over it.
- Jsaquella

I think this is a case where if they buyout Luongo someone in their management will lose their job so they're trying everything possible to just dump him.
- JAKEw1234

If the Leafs did offer anything of value at the TDL, Gillis royally messed up

The Canucks still say they're not buying out Luongo...I'd be stunned if anyone took that contract on
- Jsaquella

That has to be the most hilarious comment I've read lately.. I cannot see anyone taking that contract on unless maybe the canucks took half of the money for a team that has trouble making the cap floor.. even then Lu has a NMC. Maybe they'll wait til next summer to buy him out, but they are acting like they are in the drivers seat when anyone with a brain can tell they are not going to get assets for him.

I think this is a case where if they buyout Luongo someone in their management will lose their job so they're trying everything possible to just dump him.
- JAKEw1234

I don't understand this rationale.

Not singling you out Jake, but I've seen the same thing said about Bryz or Vinny....

"Jesus I'm surprised (Yzerman or Homer or Gilis or any other name) hasn't been fired after buying out ____"

Why would people be fired after that? I don't understand that. It doesn't make sense. People are saying that someone should be fired because they basically admitted they made a mistake and took a mulligan? With ZERO hockey/cap related consequences?

What makes what Hinkie did, any different from what Holmgren did in trading Richards and Carter?
- MJL

I believe the Flyers won the Division before trading Carter and Richards. Much riskier. 76ers really had to start over given the NBA's cap structure.

There is no KHL factor. He will be playing in NA next season.
- JAKEw1234

I understand what he has been quoted as saying. However, an athlete's opinion can change. Also, I think Barkov and Lindholm are just rated higher. However, I could see the Flyers trading up just for the opportunity to him.

We can debate over the organizational philosophy and patience. However, the Flyers very rarely have the opportunity to draft in the top 6 especially in a very deep class. I could see them taking this unique opportunity to identify a franchise changing player and spending significant assets to acquire.

If the Leafs did offer anything of value at the TDL, Gillis royally messed up
- Jsaquella

Wasn't it supposed to be a couple assets, but when the Leafs wanted Van City to take money back , they said no.

What makes what Hinkie did, any different from what Holmgren did in trading Richards and Carter?
- MJL

I would be real surprised if hinkie signed a UFA this summer who is older with a larger contract than holiday. That's what Holmgren ended up doing after the trades.

It's apples and oranges anyway.

I believe the Flyers won the Division before trading Carter and Richards. Much riskier. 76ers really had to start over given the NBA's cap structure.
- jstross

The cap was a big factor in the Richards and Carter trades. It's still the same basic principle. Trading established players for youth and future assets.

I don't understand this rationale.

Not singling you out Jake, but I've seen the same thing said about Bryz or Vinny....

"Jesus I'm surprised (Yzerman or Homer or Gilis or any other name) hasn't been fired after buying out ____"

Why would people be fired after that? I don't understand that. It doesn't make sense. People are saying that someone should be fired because they basically admitted they made a mistake and took a mulligan?
- Giroux_Is_God

Well, that mulligan, in the case of Bryzgalov, means that Ed Snider is paying him $1,642,857 a year, for the next 14 years, to not play hockey for his team. That's a lot of money to pay a dude to do nothing.

I would be real surprised if hinkie signed a UFA this summer who is older with a larger contract than holiday. That's what Holmgren ended up doing after the trades.

It's apples and oranges anyway.
- Just5

Hinkie's trying to tank and get a top pick in a very deep NBA draft. The Flyers were still tyring to be a competitive team and were.

Well, that mulligan, in the case of Bryzgalov, means that Ed Snider is paying him $1,642,857 a year, for the next 14 years, to not play hockey for his team. That's a lot of money to pay a dude to do nothing.
- Jsaquella

But...why does that matter to us here as fans of the Flyers? Would should we be calling for Homer's head?

(Not saying you or anyone in particular is, but I've seen it be done)

I would be real surprised if hinkie signed a UFA this summer who is older with a larger contract than holiday. That's what Holmgren ended up doing after the trades.

It's apples and oranges anyway.
- Just5

The same thing was done. I heard they re-signed Kwame Brown. Is that true? How old is he? I think this myth that the Flyers don't have a plan. Is just that, a myth.

The same thing was done. I heard they re-signed Kwame Brown. Is that true? How old is he? I think this myth that the Flyers don't have a plan. Is just that, a myth.
- MJL

The good ol' fashioned double post