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aosplayo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 01.14.2008

Jun 28 @ 9:39 PM ET
Actually you can thank Tony and Doug for that resigning, it was a player option for the second year in his contract. He wasn't opting out of anything, he might not have skill, but he knows how to collect a check.
- ravishingone




Hey thats fine with me, more ping pong balls for Wiggins
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 28 @ 9:40 PM ET
then they would be out 2 dmen, cause mez is unreliable @ this point...unless there's some grand plan to acquire another one.
- isaiah520


Never know what Holmgren is thinking.
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

Jun 28 @ 9:40 PM ET
The in depth reviews I've read about him have been quite the opposite. I think people are reading far too much into his lack of psychicality as a knock on his defensive zone play.
- hereticpride


I read more about defensive positioning combined with average skating ability as negatives. I'm not concerned about physicality, it's a nice asset to have, but not the end of the world if a guy is great at positioning and anticipation.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 28 @ 9:40 PM ET
Never know what Holmgren is thinking.
- stveshdy


I will not be surprised by anything. Well almost anything.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 28 @ 9:41 PM ET
I read more about defensive positioning combined with average skating ability as negatives. I'm not concerned about physicality, it's a nice asset to have, but not the end of the world if a guy is great at positioning and anticipation.
- ravishingone


I'll take those attributes you named, plus hockey sense over physicality.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 28 @ 9:43 PM ET
I will not be surprised by anything. Well almost anything.
- MJL


Holmgren does some crazy poop. The Flyers didn't make the playoffs last year so I can see the organization moving some players.
coffee junkie
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jun 28 @ 9:44 PM ET
Streit signed at 4 yr 5.25 per: http://www.nhl.com/ice/ne...675674&navid=nhl:topheads

I was thinking it was actually 5.1...why was I thinking that? Where there conflicting reports?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 28 @ 9:44 PM ET
Holmgren does some crazy poop. The Flyers didn't make the playoffs last year so I can see the organization moving some players.
- stveshdy


The Flyers didn't buy out players to sit on the loot. The Flyers will always be involved.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 28 @ 9:44 PM ET
neither bryz or briere had to go thru waivers because of their NMCs...
- isaiah520


Same with Vinny
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jun 28 @ 9:44 PM ET
I'll take those attributes you named, plus hockey sense over physicality.
- MJL


You might be a fan of Chris Bigras (Owen Sound)

isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Jun 28 @ 9:45 PM ET
Holmgren does some crazy poop. The Flyers didn't make the playoffs last year so I can see the organization moving some players.
- stveshdy

...and if they miss again, moving homer out.
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Jun 28 @ 9:46 PM ET
Same with Vinny
- Jsaquella

would think he would fit like a glove in CHI
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 28 @ 9:47 PM ET
...and if they miss again, moving homer out.
- isaiah520


I'd be surprised if either happened.
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

Jun 28 @ 9:47 PM ET
Holmgren does some crazy poop. The Flyers didn't make the playoffs last year so I can see the organization moving some players.
- stveshdy


I really don't think not making the playoffs makes them anymore urgent then last offseason. They took a serious run at Suter and Parise first, then Weber. Obviously, they wanted to make radical changes to the roster back then. I don't believe there is any knee jerk reaction to not making the playoffs in a strike shortened season. I think they have identified foundation players and are willing to move out anyone else outside of that scope to make the team better. Of course, debating those moves is what makes it fun.

stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 28 @ 9:49 PM ET
...and if they miss again, moving homer out.
- isaiah520


I think the Flyers will play better this year. Lavi finally figured it out late in the season the style of play that fits this team.

Now will he continue to use it is another story.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 28 @ 9:50 PM ET
I think the Flyers will play better this year. Lavi finally figured it out late in the season the style of play that fits this team.

Now will he continue to use it is another story.

- stveshdy



Want my guess? No way in hell. He knows one way to play.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 28 @ 9:51 PM ET
I really don't think not making the playoffs makes them anymore urgent then last offseason. They took a serious run at Suter and Parise first, then Weber. Obviously, they wanted to make radical changes to the roster back then. I don't believe there is any knee jerk reaction to not making the playoffs in a strike shortened season. I think they have identified foundation players and are willing to move out anyone else outside of that scope to make the team better. Of course, debating those moves is what makes it fun.
- ravishingone


I can see your point. However, they went after Suter, Weber, and Parise b/c they probably felt they were that one star player away before the season started. That's my take on it. Not making the playoffs doesn't sit well within the organization. Watching the playoffs probably was killing Holmgren and Snider inside.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 28 @ 9:52 PM ET
I can see your point. However, they went after Suter, Weber, and Parise b/c they probably felt they were that one star player away before the season started. That's my take on it. Not making the playoffs doesn't sit well within the organization. Watching the playoffs probably was killing Holmgren and Snider inside.
- stveshdy


If it wasn't, then they're in the wrong business.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 28 @ 9:52 PM ET
Want my guess? No way in hell. He knows one way to play.
- MJL


While I agree with you, he better figure it out cause his ass will be on the line this year imo.
jstross
Joined: 06.25.2012

Jun 28 @ 9:53 PM ET
I was pumped for the NHL draft, but Hinke has me waiting on the edge of my seat for Sunday.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 28 @ 9:53 PM ET
While I agree with you, he better figure it out cause his ass will be on the line this year imo.
- stveshdy



I think if he's going to go out, he's going to go out doing it his way.
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Jun 28 @ 9:53 PM ET
Want my guess? No way in hell. He knows one way to play.
- MJL

so you expect lavi to get canned? if so, by when?
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 28 @ 9:53 PM ET
If it wasn't, then they're in the wrong business.
- MJL


Absolutely. That's why I expected some changes coming soon.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 28 @ 9:55 PM ET
I think if he's going to go out, he's going to go out doing it his way.
- MJL


Sometimes that can be your worse enemy.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 28 @ 9:55 PM ET
so you expect lavi to get canned? if so, by when?
- isaiah520


Where did I say I expect Laviolette to get canned?
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