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isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Jun 28 @ 9:05 PM ET
Getting 4M in Cap space would be part of the return. He has one year left. Not much risk there.
- MJL

unfortunately, cap space is more valuable to us than what mez projects to be at this point in his career.
Doc_Sarcasm
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Should of studied Geometry
Joined: 04.28.2013

Jun 28 @ 9:05 PM ET
That still might be a stretch to even get either of them but I'd give it a shot to ask
- ob18




Button has Pulock going 24. I'm not sure I believe that he'll still be there, but that might be a possibility.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jun 28 @ 9:06 PM ET
Hemsky could not replace Danny B
- JAKEw1234


Yea.
the deaninator
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Purgatory, DE
Joined: 08.06.2006

Jun 28 @ 9:08 PM ET
just read that the flyers and flames have been talking, heard their gm has been "chasing" matt read for sometime, any way we could leverage that to getting their first 2 picks or am way off?
- flyerscup2011


id love it, but that would be a huge overpayment. one of them maybe, with tomething else going calgary's way.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 28 @ 9:10 PM ET
Holmgren is on the phone talking to other teams from Hinkie's house.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 28 @ 9:11 PM ET
unfortunately, cap space is more valuable to us than what mez projects to be at this point in his career.
- isaiah520


Only because of the injury factor. If Meszaros was a healthy player, I wouldn't trade him unless the return was very good.
Moose_15
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Rat Patrol, PA
Joined: 02.15.2013

Jun 28 @ 9:12 PM ET
Getting 4M in Cap space would be part of the return. He has one year left. Not much risk there.
- MJL


What I am getting at, basically, is that Mesz won't fetch much in a trade. I would be fine with moving him to open up the cap space, but I hope people don't think that he'll bring in a high return: a late draft pick & cap savings

The "risk" is on another team taking the 4m onto a payroll for someone who is now, unluckily, "injury prone."
aosplayo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 01.14.2008

Jun 28 @ 9:14 PM ET
Holmgren is on the phone talking to other teams from Hinkie's house.
- stveshdy




Part 2 of the tanking next year plan complete - resign Kwame Brown
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jun 28 @ 9:14 PM ET
Button has Pulock going 24. I'm not sure I believe that he'll still be there, but that might be a possibility.
- Doc_Sarcasm


I can see it both ways, he was hurt last year & is limited with experience at the spot but has like many in every draft in "upside" and if a team feels it's too good to pass up he'll go sooner.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 28 @ 9:15 PM ET
Part 2 of the tanking next year plan complete - resign Kwame Brown
- aosplayo


Dude is a genius. This is how you build a future.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 28 @ 9:15 PM ET
What I am getting at, basically, is that Mesz won't fetch much in a trade. I would be fine with moving him to open up the cap space, but I hope people don't think that he'll bring in a high return: a late draft pick & cap savings

The "risk" is on another team taking the 4m onto a payroll for someone who is now, unluckily, "injury prone."

- Moose_15


I agree about the return part. But with only one year left on his deal. There isn't much risk for a team acquiring him.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 28 @ 9:15 PM ET
What I am getting at, basically, is that Mesz won't fetch much in a trade. I would be fine with moving him to open up the cap space, but I hope people don't think that he'll bring in a high return: a late draft pick & cap savings

The "risk" is on another team taking the 4m onto a payroll for someone who is now, unluckily, "injury prone."

- Moose_15


That's why its more likely that the Flyers move Coburn.
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

Jun 28 @ 9:16 PM ET
Button has Pulock going 24. I'm not sure I believe that he'll still be there, but that might be a possibility.
- Doc_Sarcasm



I believe the disadvantage Pullock has is being a converted forward and there are some questions about his defensive prowess combined with average skating. Above all else, I would draft a d-man with a higher defensive IQ over offensive ceiling personally.
Moose_15
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Rat Patrol, PA
Joined: 02.15.2013

Jun 28 @ 9:16 PM ET
Part 2 of the tanking next year plan complete - resign Kwame Brown
- aosplayo







76ers are so close to Profit.
Moose_15
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Rat Patrol, PA
Joined: 02.15.2013

Jun 28 @ 9:17 PM ET
That's why its more likely that the Flyers move Coburn.
- stveshdy


Agreed.
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

Jun 28 @ 9:17 PM ET
Part 2 of the tanking next year plan complete - resign Kwame Brown
- aosplayo


Actually you can thank Tony and Doug for that resigning, it was a player option for the second year in his contract. He wasn't opting out of anything, he might not have skill, but he knows how to collect a check.
jstross
Joined: 06.25.2012

Jun 28 @ 9:18 PM ET
Dude is a genius. This is how you build a future.
- stveshdy


Sixers ended up with Houston's and Brooklyn's 2nd round picks next in addition to our 1st and NO's 1st. Great stuff.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 28 @ 9:21 PM ET
Sixers ended up with Houston's and Brooklyn's 2nd round picks next in addition to our 1st and NO's 1st. Great stuff.
- jstross


Mastermind. Respect the Hinkie!
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jun 28 @ 9:21 PM ET
I believe the disadvantage Pullock has is being a converted forward and there are some questions about his defensive prowess combined with average skating. Above all else, I would draft a d-man with a higher defensive IQ over offensive ceiling personally.
- ravishingone

The in depth reviews I've read about him have been quite the opposite. I think people are reading far too much into his lack of psychicality as a knock on his defensive zone play.
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Jun 28 @ 9:31 PM ET
Only because of the injury factor. If Meszaros was a healthy player, I wouldn't trade him unless the return was very good.
- MJL

pretty much
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Jun 28 @ 9:33 PM ET
That's why its more likely that the Flyers move Coburn.
- stveshdy

then they would be out 2 dmen, cause mez is unreliable @ this point...unless there's some grand plan to acquire another one.
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Jun 28 @ 9:37 PM ET
neither bryz or briere had to go thru waivers because of their NMCs...
Moose_15
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Rat Patrol, PA
Joined: 02.15.2013

Jun 28 @ 9:37 PM ET
then they would be out 2 dmen, cause mez is unreliable @ this point...unless there's some grand plan to acquire another one.
- isaiah520


There's no need to fear

Bruno [lukewarm mess] Gervais is here!
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 28 @ 9:38 PM ET
then they would be out 2 dmen, cause mez is unreliable @ this point...unless there's some grand plan to acquire another one.
- isaiah520


I know they're expecting Meszaros to be declared healthy and ready to play sometime next month. But trading Coburn, and relying on Meszaros is risky. I can only hope of they do, that they bring in another defenseman.
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Jun 28 @ 9:38 PM ET
There's no need to fear

Bruno

- Moose_15[lukewarm mess] Gervais is here!

pretty good 8th dman though
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