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dingo8urbaby
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.02.2009

Jun 28 @ 6:05 PM ET
Any more buyouts? Again, the Habs are suppose to buyout Kaberle but it doesn't look offical yet.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jun 28 @ 6:05 PM ET
Sounds like another Mike Richards and/or Eric Lindros.
- BulliesPhan87



He isn't the only one who has that comparison in this draft. It's become a common one to use.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jun 28 @ 6:07 PM ET
He isn't the only one who has that comparison in this draft. It's become a common one to use.
- ob18

77rams
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There's a kind of freedom in being completely screwed...
Joined: 09.12.2006

Jun 28 @ 6:10 PM ET
Here's a full breakdown of Pulock from thehockeywriters.com. It has a list of his strengths and weaknesses, his ETA to the NHL, his estimated potential, comparisons to current NHL players, a breakdown of his skills, and risk rating as well as a reward rating.
http://thehockeywriters.c...3-draft-prospect-profile/
To sum it up, the think he's a very low risk, high reward prosect. They think he'll be a top 3 two-way guy and a PP quarterback. They give is offensive potential an 8.5/10, and his defensive an 8/10. At his highest potential they consider him a "morph of Erik Karlsson and Kevin Shattenkirk"

Here's for Zadorov:
http://thehockeywriters.c...3-draft-prospect-profile/

Here's for Ristolainen "The Finnish Pronger":
http://thehockeywriters.c...3-draft-prospect-profile/

- JAKEw1234


Why is it when I hear Rasmus Ristolainen, I think Joni Pitkanen?
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jun 28 @ 6:11 PM ET
Why is it when I hear Rasmus Ristolainen, I think Joni Pitkanen?
- 77rams



No idea.
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Jun 28 @ 6:12 PM ET
Why is it when I hear Rasmus Ristolainen, I think Joni Pitkanen?
- 77rams

Idk I actually do think Chris Pronger when I think of him, though. I wouldn't mind taking him at 11.
FlyerMike18
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.07.2009

Jun 28 @ 6:13 PM ET
Worst picks I've seen mentioned at 11. Just sayin.
- youarewrong


Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jun 28 @ 6:16 PM ET
Can we trade for more buyouts?
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jun 28 @ 6:18 PM ET
Can we trade for more buyouts?
- Just5

Nope. But we can trade for Doc Rivers.
77rams
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There's a kind of freedom in being completely screwed...
Joined: 09.12.2006

Jun 28 @ 6:18 PM ET
No idea.
- ob18


Same size.
Same country.
Same potential.




stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 28 @ 6:18 PM ET
Can we trade for more buyouts?
- Just5

That would be awesome. They should have one per year.
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 28 @ 6:21 PM ET
Can we trade for more buyouts?
- Just5



Toronto's asking price for buying a player out is a lottery pick
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 28 @ 6:32 PM ET
This is a gem.

http://www.broadstreethoc...-of-developing-defensemen



During Bob Clarke's two tenures as GM, he drafted 65 defensemen, 46 of them never played a game for the Flyers.

Splendid work. Good job, good effort.

My favorite is 1997 Round 9, a dman by the name of Par Styf. Can't make it up. All the dmen he drafted were Styfs

- PLindbergh31


Let's see the facts on how that compares to other GM's in the same era.That way there is some persepective.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jun 28 @ 6:39 PM ET
(frank) WIP. Everything you need to know is in their tag line "WIP: drama guaranteed"

What a joke. Nothing new but needed to vent.
SMS4016
Joined: 01.27.2011

Jun 28 @ 6:42 PM ET
After much thought and consideration I've come to the collusion that I have no idea what Philly will do or what I'd like them to do. Can't wait til Sunday to just sit back and relax and let this draft all unfold. Well maybe not relax
Doc_Sarcasm
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Should of studied Geometry
Joined: 04.28.2013

Jun 28 @ 6:42 PM ET
Let's see the facts on how that compares to other GM's in the same era.That way there is some persepective.
- MJL



The Flyers have missed the playoffs... what? 7 times in 45 years?

Been to the Cup Finals like 8 times...

lets see, lost once to Montreal (who only won about 7 cups in the 70s)

lost once to the Islanders (who won 4 cups in a row)

lost twice to the Oilers in the 80s (a team that many think was the greatest ever)

lost once to Detroit who was in the process of winning two cup finals in a total of 8 Games

lost once to chicago in a series that ended in OT in game 6

You know.. I'd say the flyers have done pretty well, regardless of their apparent inability to draft and develop defensemen.
SMS4016
Joined: 01.27.2011

Jun 28 @ 6:44 PM ET
Conclusion. Damn auto words
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Jun 28 @ 6:45 PM ET
The Flyers have missed the playoffs... what? 7 times in 45 years?

Been to the Cup Finals like 8 times...

lets see, lost once to Montreal (who only won about 7 cups in the 70s)

lost once to the Islanders (who won 4 cups in a row)

lost twice to the Oilers in the 80s (a team that many think was the greatest ever)

lost once to Detroit who was in the process of winning two cup finals in a total of 8 Games

lost once to chicago in a series that ended in OT in game 6

You know.. I'd say the flyers have done pretty well, regardless of their apparent inability to draft and develop defensemen.

- Doc_Sarcasm


SHHHH! You'll ruin the narrative that anybody who believes in how this franchise conducts its business is stupid, naive and prefers Kool-Aid over all other beverages.


Don'tForgetTocchet
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ground Zero Brooklyn
Joined: 02.08.2007

Jun 28 @ 6:47 PM ET
SHHHH! You'll ruin the narrative that anybody who believes in how this franchise conducts its business is stupid, naive and prefers Kool-Aid over all other beverages.
- AllInForFlyers


haha i just keep slamming kool aid
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Jun 28 @ 6:50 PM ET
haha i just keep slamming kool aid
- Don'tForgetTocchet


Me, too -- I probably did a keg just in 2007-2008, when the franchise that finished dead last in the NHL the season before opted not to tank for the next eight seasons but instead made it to the conference finals.

I prefer my Kool-Aid in grape, for the record.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 28 @ 6:51 PM ET
SHHHH! You'll ruin the narrative that anybody who believes in how this franchise conducts its business is stupid, naive and prefers Kool-Aid over all other beverages.
- AllInForFlyers


The sad thing, some of those that do that are actually fairly intelligent folks who resort to being morons because they simply can't take anything positive, lest their hopes be dashed....you know, like 5 year old kids.

Sometimes, people are just idiots. Try to ignore it and move on.
FlyerMike18
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.07.2009

Jun 28 @ 6:52 PM ET
haha i just keep slamming kool aid
- Don'tForgetTocchet


Yosimar89
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 05.11.2010

Jun 28 @ 6:53 PM ET
NHLSourcesSay ‏@NHLSourcesSay 38m
11)#Flyers DRAFT S.SANTINI 10) #Stars DRAFT S.MONOHAN 9) #Devils DRAFT V.NICHUSHKIN 8) #Sabres DRAFT R.RISTOLAINEN 7) #Oilers DRAFT R.PULOCK

who is s santiin?

- flyerscup2011

That would be a big reach
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 28 @ 6:53 PM ET
SHHHH! You'll ruin the narrative that anybody who believes in how this franchise conducts its business is stupid, naive and prefers Kool-Aid over all other beverages.
- AllInForFlyers


That's always a good plan. If someone posts some facts to respond to obvious rhetoric. Just reply and post the picture of the kool aid man. Rather then responding with a sensible and knowledgeable reply.
flyerscup2011
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Future lottery winner
Joined: 06.21.2010

Jun 28 @ 6:54 PM ET
I think if you get Edmonton 7, at best Nichushkin can drop, at worst Nurse. It wouldn't be a bad move. Is it possible Paarvi might be the plus?
- youarewrong


paarvi is a player i've had my eye on since he was drafted, that said i think we'd have to add to coburn and the 11th for paarvi and the 7th, maybe our 2nd rounder
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