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hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jun 17 @ 6:25 PM ET
they will package Coburn, #11 + to move up to get the Canes pick.
- wilsonecho91

To do what? Take a forward? Then we're royally screwed on D.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 17 @ 6:25 PM ET
All of this is just a hand shake? When can they begin to start buying out players?
- dingo8urbaby


48 hours after the SCF ends, buyouts begin
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 17 @ 6:25 PM ET
I'm not here to do anything. I know what the Isles short coming are. I just stated the Flyers are not that much better then the Isles on the back end as some think. That's all. Too each his own I'm not here to get in a pissing match
- Vukota



Isles have some good young defenseman. But even at this point in his career. The Isles don't have a defenseman that is close to Timonen.
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Jun 17 @ 6:25 PM ET
All of this is just a hand shake? When can they begin to start buying out players?
- dingo8urbaby

pretty sure they can sign players as long as they have the rights to them. it's just a contract extension, not a UFA signing.

although idk how it works with going over the cap (which you would by signing him).
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jun 17 @ 6:25 PM ET
PP QBs are indeed hard to come by. still not sure one is worth over $5M just to be a PP QB alone.

streit would've gotten the contract had he hit the open market regardless. i just think that you guys are gonna regret it halfway through the season when you realize how much he's aged and how bad he is defensively. not saying he's a 5 or 6 but he should slot in as 3.

the contract might be worth it for a season, maybe 2, but once you're paying the dude when he's 38 or 39 or if he retires before then and the cap hit is still on books, you guys might be saying WTFFFF.

- rangerdanger94


I agree the cap hit is troublesome...
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jun 17 @ 6:26 PM ET
they will package Coburn, #11 + to move up to get the Canes pick.
- wilsonecho91

as long as the plus is a small one that might be OK

like not read or laughton
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 17 @ 6:26 PM ET
Can they keep all 7? With Grossman and Mezs injuries, you would think a little insurance would be good. Not to mention Kimmo only has a year left.
- section32


They could, but I'd be surprised if they had faith in Meszaros' health to use up $4mm in cap room...of course, if Grossmann can't start the season, they may need him
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jun 17 @ 6:26 PM ET
Correct, thank you. Ottawa was his old team. And who are you sir-ing?

- MJL


You are right it wasn't needed in that comment.
FLYERSROCK!
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Anyone who takes Andrew MacDonald's contract will instantly become my 3rd favourite team, SK
Joined: 09.09.2008

Jun 17 @ 6:26 PM ET
48 hours after the SCF ends
- Jsaquella

thanks.
so the signing wont be official until then unless we trade somebody
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 17 @ 6:26 PM ET
pretty sure they can sign players as long as they have the rights to them. it's just a contract extension, not a UFA signing.

although idk how it works with going over the cap (which you would by signing him).

- rangerdanger94


They are not allowed to sign him yet.
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Jun 17 @ 6:27 PM ET
I agree the cap hit is troublesome...
- MBFlyerfan

i guess time will tell. again, he would've gotten the same deal had he hit the open market, if not more, from another team.
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Jun 17 @ 6:27 PM ET
They are not allowed to sign him yet.
- Jsaquella

because of the salary cap?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 17 @ 6:28 PM ET
pretty sure they can sign players as long as they have the rights to them. it's just a contract extension, not a UFA signing.

although idk how it works with going over the cap (which you would by signing him).

- rangerdanger94


Not true. Must have the tagging space available even for a contract extension.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jun 17 @ 6:28 PM ET
what was the deal the Streit turned down from the Islanders?

3 years/15M?

wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Jun 17 @ 6:28 PM ET
they will draft a forward as the best player available, watch
- Marc D


ugh...

Foolishness.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 17 @ 6:28 PM ET
You are right it wasn't needed in that comment.
- ob18


I was thinking more along the lines of that I'm nobody's sir!
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Jun 17 @ 6:28 PM ET
what was the deal the Streit turned down from the Islanders?

3 years/15M?

- Marc D

4 years 20M i think tho i'm not sure at all
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 17 @ 6:29 PM ET
because of the salary cap?
- rangerdanger94


Yep. Starting July 5th they can go 10% over the cap, but until then, they can't exceed it without LTIR relief. July 5th ends LTIR and starts the off season.

As soon s they do a buyout they can officially sign him
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jun 17 @ 6:29 PM ET
i guess time will tell. again, he would've gotten the same deal had he hit the open market, if not more, from another team.
- rangerdanger94

Calgary only has two D men signed. If anyone thinks he would have got by Feaster for less than 5.75 they're only kidding themselves.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 17 @ 6:29 PM ET
thanks.
so the signing wont be official until then unless we trade somebody

- FLYERSROCK!


Or buy somebody out.
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Jun 17 @ 6:29 PM ET
Not true. Must have the tagging space available even for a contract extension.
- MJL

word makes sense
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 17 @ 6:30 PM ET
Yep. Starting July 5th they can go 10% over the cap, but until then, they can't exceed it without LTIR relief. July 5th ends LTIR and starts the off season.

As soon s they do a buyout they can officially sign him

- Jsaquella


Can't place someone on LTIR after your playing Season has ended. Basically doesn't exist anymore.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Jun 17 @ 6:30 PM ET
So the choice was between signing a guy to a sunset contract or be forced to trade one of the kids?

Apparently, there's only two ways to skin a cat.

- Tomahawk


What other option would you go with?
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jun 17 @ 6:30 PM ET
ugh...

Foolishness.

- wolfhounds

I honestly think that with the premium that defenseman get paid over forwards, you have to make that part of the formula for determining "best player available"

if it is even close, they have to take a defenseman
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Jun 17 @ 6:31 PM ET
Can't place someone on LTIR after your playing Season has ended. Basically doesn't exist anymore.
- MJL

so the majority of the 10% you're allowed to go over is already gonna be taken up by pronger's cap hit?
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