Everyone gets hammered here on the Buzz. But my sense is that Q has fewer haters here than Stan, McCub and even Crow. This joint loves few but does acknowledge a record of success, which those other guys are hopefully in the process of adding.
- mohel

Q is the man.


He will have won 2 cups for my favorite team.

Q >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ditka......

Q is the man.


He will have won 2 cups for my favorite team.

Q >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ditka......
- mrpaulish

I'm with ya'. There are no perfect coaches or players, but I will take him any day of the week.

MacLean did a vg job but I could make a stronger case for Q. to win the Adams than Toews winning the Selke.


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- Al

FWIW, MacLean would have gotten my vote

Everyone knows it's a monkey, not a chimp.

- Hemingways

I don't recall who exactly has ripped on Q, I just find it ironic that so many are today defending his honor.

I seem to recall one post that tried to discredit his entire hockey existence. As a player he was lousy and soft, and his coaching career being undeserved and the result of patronage, with all his "success" being pure luck.

I'm sure I read it here.

I don't recall who exactly has ripped on Q, I just find it ironic that so many are today defending his honor.

I seem to recall one post that tried to discredit his entire hockey existence. As a player he was lousy and soft, and his coaching career being undeserved and the result of patronage, with all his "success" being pure luck.

I'm sure I read it here.
- ArlingtonRob

I think you wrote that one!

So let me get this straight...

Hawks go 24 unbeaten to begin the year with a road heavy sked and go wire to wire in the regular season standings.....and a coach whose team finished in 7th place wins Coach of the Year ?

FUG OFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF


It's probably a blessing though since Coach of the Year is a curse, but Q's management of the roster through our incredible season has been
PHUCKING OUTSTAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANDING.
- philco28

Lucky the awarding of the Stanley cup isn't voted on huh?

Dustin Byfuglien is going to be mentioned in trade talks as the NHL draft draws closer and the talking point that will be raised again and again is his weight.
It was evident Byfuglien grew heavier this season as the games moved on and according to accredited Jets blogger Pete Tessier, the player's weight rose to 302 pounds by season's end.
If there's any truth to this number, Byfuglien is virtually untradeable. Jets GM Kevin Cheveldayoff can't engage in trade talks with another GM and keep Byfuglien's weight off the table until the very end -- then hit his colleague with an, "oh, by the way, Buff's a little big right now."
Cheveldayoff has a solid reputation in the NHL for good reason. He's above board, and hiding a player's physical ailment, such as being overweight or having a bad knee, isn't kosher. It comes out anyway. Teams must hand over medical reports and players must pass physicals.
The Jets weren't having any of this talk when reached for a comment on Monday evening.
"The Jets have never been, and never will be, in the habit of commenting on rumours started on Twitter," wrote a team spokesman in a text message.
We'll leave the debate as to what the team should comment on to the Jets, as it's their business. But Byfuglien's late-season appearance and coach Claude Noel's clear displeasure with him were red flags. Did Buff weigh three bills during an NHL season? Don't know. But it's not unimaginable.
Tessier isn't known for being a rumour-monger and printing an outright lie is a quick way to get one's press credentials yanked. Tessier would have to have a good source and be in strong position to defend his story. I checked with Tessier Monday night and he stood by his story and his source.
All this brings us back to what the Jets need to do about Dustin Byfuglien, arguably their most talented player and a highly-paid one, at $5,750,000 this coming season.
It's been stated he's soon to be a diminishing asset, but his lack of conditioning has already decreased his value at just age 28. Cheveldayoff would be at a disadvantage in any trade negotiation right now. The whispers about Byfuglien's conditioning long ago broke into open conversation.
No, the Jets can't dump Byfuglien on someone else's lap unless they are willing to accept a deep discount on the return. Not now.
Cheveldayoff's best bet is to turn the trick no one has been able to -- that's to somehow reach Byfuglien and get him into shape and playing a more disciplined game.
Byfuglien regressed this past season as his conditioning slipped and he became more and more unpredictable as a player. There were some brilliant games early in the season but as the pace quickened, Byfuglien became less and less effective.
Noel was visibly frustrated with the player and when questioned after a string of poor games in late March, bit his lip before offering this assessment.
"Well, he's been... I'll just say up and down," said Noel.
It was right around this time that Byfuglien no longer had the option to take days off from practice or morning skates, as did other veterans.
Noel looked for answers, first moving Byfuglien up to forward for a game-and-a-half and then limiting his ice. Neither proved to be answers.
The Jets can't move forward with Byfuglien in his current form. He either has to get better or be moved. Problem is he can't be dealt in his present state. No one will pay top dollar for a player in obvious disrepair.
Cheveldayoff must have fond memories of Byfuglien from their days of winning the Stanley Cup with the Chicago Blackhawks. But that time is long gone and the business of hockey is no place for nostalgia.
Byfuglien has become a problem. One that Cheveldayoff must solve before the Jets can take the next step.
[email][email protected][/email] Twitter: @garylawless

...selective reading I see because most of my posts are not Q related. It's okay to question a move or criticize because even I've been hard on him at times and every fan has a right to do that. My beef is with the people who give him no credit at all....the "winning in spite of" crowd......and I will post it another 300 times if I have to....enjoy your reading.
- UnnamedSource

But, they DO win in spite of Q!

FWIW, MacLean would have gotten my vote
- John Jaeckel

Same here. Coaching what remained of that roster into the playoffs was an accomplishment, and a TRUE indication of a GOOD coach; not doing well with a stacked team.

I don't recall who exactly has ripped on Q, I just find it ironic that so many are today defending his honor.

I seem to recall one post that tried to discredit his entire hockey existence. As a player he was lousy and soft, and his coaching career being undeserved and the result of patronage, with all his "success" being pure luck.

I'm sure I read it here.
- ArlingtonRob

I admit, I ripped on him pretty good during that Detroit series.

[quote=wiz1901]Dustin Byfuglien is going to be mentioned in trade talks as the NHL draft draws closer and the talking point that will be raised again and again is his weight.

Buff has assumed mythic proportions in Hawk Fan Land since 2010, and part of the reason for this is that he was traded that off-season. I know he's loved here (including by me), but the decision to trade him - given our cap situation - was absolutely correct. Credit should (but probably won't) be given to the FO for putting emotion aside and analyzing their players accurately in deciding who had to go given the cap bind. Buff was a young guy who was a bit heavy even then and had a pattern of not working as hard as an elite NHL star that he would be paid like. That was only going to get worse as he aged. I for one am glad that the Buff I remember most will be the guy of 2010, rather than the guy he has become.

That said, if he were to get bought out and suddenly became dedicated to his craft all year round, I'd love to have him on the fourth line and as a PP QB (at a reasonable rate).

But I thought Q was a bum... and a fool? C'mon, that 2010 team would have won with a Chimp behind the bench!

I believe something along those lines is stated here at the Buzz on a regular basis.

Or am I imagining this?
- ArlingtonRob

Q's got his haters on here for sure and they are certainly entitled to their viewpoint but a close review of the record reveals that in

year 1: he led us to the Western Conference Finals where injuries to Khabby and Havlat undid an otherwise highly successful and entertaining playoff run

year 2: wins Stanley Cup, ending a 49 year drought for the club

year 3: with half the roster turned over, still leads the team to a 97 point season and we sneak in last day of season and rally from 3 games to none vs # 1 seed, come within one shot of SHOCKING THE WORLD...

year 4...lose in round 1, on 2 o/t goals Tracey Myers would have stopped

year 5...brilliantly manages club to a record shattering unbeaten streak to begin a season through a brutally road-heavy early sked...while guiding club to FIRST PLACE overall...and overcoming 3-1 series deficit vs arch rival and now he's got us 3 games away from a 2nd Cup in 4 years

In short...Q has been A PHUCK'N O.K. ...THE BOYZ PLAY FOR HIM NO MATTER WHAT...

[quote=wiz1901]
That said, if he were to get bought out and suddenly became dedicated to his craft all year round, I'd love to have him on the fourth line and as a PP QB (at a reasonable rate).
- mohel

It his going to be a fascinating off-season with the strategies GM's will use on buyouts. You've got some guys who are borderline buyout candidates that are tougher decisions, but I think it also kills any trade value they may have had in another year as teams can just wait and see if a guy is bought out and sign them for less. Coupled with the lower salary cap, I would expect more movement than a normal off-season.

Dustin Byfuglien is going to be mentioned in trade talks as the NHL draft draws closer and the talking point that will be raised again and again is his weight.
It was evident Byfuglien grew heavier this season as the games moved on and according to accredited Jets blogger Pete Tessier, the player's weight rose to 302 pounds by season's end.
If there's any truth to this number, Byfuglien is virtually untradeable. Jets GM Kevin Cheveldayoff can't engage in trade talks with another GM and keep Byfuglien's weight off the table until the very end -- then hit his colleague with an, "oh, by the way, Buff's a little big right now."
Cheveldayoff has a solid reputation in the NHL for good reason. He's above board, and hiding a player's physical ailment, such as being overweight or having a bad knee, isn't kosher. It comes out anyway. Teams must hand over medical reports and players must pass physicals.
The Jets weren't having any of this talk when reached for a comment on Monday evening.
"The Jets have never been, and never will be, in the habit of commenting on rumours started on Twitter," wrote a team spokesman in a text message.
We'll leave the debate as to what the team should comment on to the Jets, as it's their business. But Byfuglien's late-season appearance and coach Claude Noel's clear displeasure with him were red flags. Did Buff weigh three bills during an NHL season? Don't know. But it's not unimaginable.
Tessier isn't known for being a rumour-monger and printing an outright lie is a quick way to get one's press credentials yanked. Tessier would have to have a good source and be in strong position to defend his story. I checked with Tessier Monday night and he stood by his story and his source.
All this brings us back to what the Jets need to do about Dustin Byfuglien, arguably their most talented player and a highly-paid one, at $5,750,000 this coming season.
It's been stated he's soon to be a diminishing asset, but his lack of conditioning has already decreased his value at just age 28. Cheveldayoff would be at a disadvantage in any trade negotiation right now. The whispers about Byfuglien's conditioning long ago broke into open conversation.
No, the Jets can't dump Byfuglien on someone else's lap unless they are willing to accept a deep discount on the return. Not now.
Cheveldayoff's best bet is to turn the trick no one has been able to -- that's to somehow reach Byfuglien and get him into shape and playing a more disciplined game.
Byfuglien regressed this past season as his conditioning slipped and he became more and more unpredictable as a player. There were some brilliant games early in the season but as the pace quickened, Byfuglien became less and less effective.
Noel was visibly frustrated with the player and when questioned after a string of poor games in late March, bit his lip before offering this assessment.
"Well, he's been... I'll just say up and down," said Noel.
It was right around this time that Byfuglien no longer had the option to take days off from practice or morning skates, as did other veterans.
Noel looked for answers, first moving Byfuglien up to forward for a game-and-a-half and then limiting his ice. Neither proved to be answers.
The Jets can't move forward with Byfuglien in his current form. He either has to get better or be moved. Problem is he can't be dealt in his present state. No one will pay top dollar for a player in obvious disrepair.
Cheveldayoff must have fond memories of Byfuglien from their days of winning the Stanley Cup with the Chicago Blackhawks. But that time is long gone and the business of hockey is no place for nostalgia.
Byfuglien has become a problem. One that Cheveldayoff must solve before the Jets can take the next step.

- wiz1901[email][email protected][/email] Twitter: @garylawless

If Alexander Karpovtsev could be traded, Dustin Byfuglien can definitely be traded. I think Gary Lawless is the one with a problem: with Dustin Byfuglien. He is far from untradeable.

It his going to be a fascinating off-season with the strategies GM's will use on buyouts. You've got some guys who are borderline buyout candidates that are tougher decisions, but I think it also kills any trade value they may have had in another year as teams can just wait and see if a guy is bought out and sign them for less. Coupled with the lower salary cap, I would expect more movement than a normal off-season.
- Hemingways

I think you are correct. Gonna be a fun off-season.

If Alexander Karpovtsev could be traded, Dustin Byfuglien can definitely be traded. I think Gary Lawless is the one with a problem: with Dustin Byfuglien. He is far from untradeable.
- John Jaeckel

I think the cap world makes that comparison a little less valid. Sure he could be traded, but it will have to be to a team with LOTS of cap room that is willing to take a chance on a guy who hasn't shown much dedication lately. And if it happens, Winnipeg won't be able to get much in return because the main value the other team will provide will be to take that fat contract. Another possibility would be for The Peg to keep some of the cap hit, which would bring more teams into the mix or provide a slightly better return.

I think the cap world makes that comparison a little less valid. Sure he could be traded, but it will have to be to a team with LOTS of cap room that is willing to take a chance on a guy who hasn't shown much dedication lately. And if it happens, Winnipeg won't be able to get much in return because the main value the other team will provide will be to take that fat contract. Another possibility would be for The Peg to keep some of the cap hit, which would bring more teams into the mix or provide a slightly better return.
- mohel

Oh, his trade value is not as high as it would be were it not for the weight, absolutely. it's a hyperbolic comparison to begin with, BTW. There is no comparison between Dustin Byfuglien and Alxander Karpovtsev. That's the point.

Untradeable? Lawless comes off as having an axe to grind. That is a dumb statement. Lots of teams would be and likely are interested in Byfuglien, weight or no.

I don't believe Winnipeg can pay part of his salary or retain part of the cap hit per the CBA. I could see another team moving a bigger contract for an "underachiever" for him. But it could also be a couple of players needing a change of scenery and both teams benefit.

Oh, his trade value is not as high as it would be were it not for the weight, absolutely. it's a hyperbolic comparison to begin with, BTW. There is no comparison between Dustin Byfuglien and Alxander Karpovtsev. That's the point.

Untradeable? Lawless comes off as having an axe to grind. That is a dumb statement. Lots of teams would be and likely are interested in Byfuglien, weight or no.

I don't believe Winnipeg can pay part of his salary or retain part of the cap hit per the CBA. I could see another team moving a bigger contract for an "underachiever" for him. But it could also be a couple of players needing a change of scenery and both teams benefit.
- John Jaeckel

I knew you weren't comparing the players, and agree the the writer came off biased. But if his point was that Buff will be hard to trade for a decent return that will help the team re-tool, I think he is correct.

The new CBA does allow trading teams to retain a portion of the salary, and I believe the cap hit as well. This was done to allow "rich" teams to trade bad contracts to "poor" teams. I'll look for a link...

Edit - here's the link. http://www.theglobeandmai...lvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

Dustin Byfuglien is going to be mentioned in trade talks as the NHL draft draws closer and the talking point that will be raised again and again is his weight.
It was evident Byfuglien grew heavier this season as the games moved on and according to accredited Jets blogger Pete Tessier, the player's weight rose to 302 pounds by season's end.
If there's any truth to this number, Byfuglien is virtually untradeable. Jets GM Kevin Cheveldayoff can't engage in trade talks with another GM and keep Byfuglien's weight off the table until the very end -- then hit his colleague with an, "oh, by the way, Buff's a little big right now."
Cheveldayoff has a solid reputation in the NHL for good reason. He's above board, and hiding a player's physical ailment, such as being overweight or having a bad knee, isn't kosher. It comes out anyway. Teams must hand over medical reports and players must pass physicals.
The Jets weren't having any of this talk when reached for a comment on Monday evening.
"The Jets have never been, and never will be, in the habit of commenting on rumours started on Twitter," wrote a team spokesman in a text message.
We'll leave the debate as to what the team should comment on to the Jets, as it's their business. But Byfuglien's late-season appearance and coach Claude Noel's clear displeasure with him were red flags. Did Buff weigh three bills during an NHL season? Don't know. But it's not unimaginable.
Tessier isn't known for being a rumour-monger and printing an outright lie is a quick way to get one's press credentials yanked. Tessier would have to have a good source and be in strong position to defend his story. I checked with Tessier Monday night and he stood by his story and his source.
All this brings us back to what the Jets need to do about Dustin Byfuglien, arguably their most talented player and a highly-paid one, at $5,750,000 this coming season.
It's been stated he's soon to be a diminishing asset, but his lack of conditioning has already decreased his value at just age 28. Cheveldayoff would be at a disadvantage in any trade negotiation right now. The whispers about Byfuglien's conditioning long ago broke into open conversation.
No, the Jets can't dump Byfuglien on someone else's lap unless they are willing to accept a deep discount on the return. Not now.
Cheveldayoff's best bet is to turn the trick no one has been able to -- that's to somehow reach Byfuglien and get him into shape and playing a more disciplined game.
Byfuglien regressed this past season as his conditioning slipped and he became more and more unpredictable as a player. There were some brilliant games early in the season but as the pace quickened, Byfuglien became less and less effective.
Noel was visibly frustrated with the player and when questioned after a string of poor games in late March, bit his lip before offering this assessment.
"Well, he's been... I'll just say up and down," said Noel.
It was right around this time that Byfuglien no longer had the option to take days off from practice or morning skates, as did other veterans.
Noel looked for answers, first moving Byfuglien up to forward for a game-and-a-half and then limiting his ice. Neither proved to be answers.
The Jets can't move forward with Byfuglien in his current form. He either has to get better or be moved. Problem is he can't be dealt in his present state. No one will pay top dollar for a player in obvious disrepair.
Cheveldayoff must have fond memories of Byfuglien from their days of winning the Stanley Cup with the Chicago Blackhawks. But that time is long gone and the business of hockey is no place for nostalgia.
Byfuglien has become a problem. One that Cheveldayoff must solve before the Jets can take the next step.

- wiz1901[email][email protected][/email] Twitter: @garylawless

I think sometimes people are blind....

12-13 5th in points, 5th in goals 19th in TOI for defensemen
11-12 2nd in points, 6th in goals, 23rd in TOI for defensemen
10-11 4th in points, 1st in goals, 36th in TOI for defensemen

Yeah... No demand for this. Ha

On a lighter note., the Vancouver Cup Riot just won't go away.

http://www.vancouversun.c...ioters/8526374/story.html
- Beaver-Warrior

Careful, guys - we in Chicago have had our share of idiots rioting because of sports win or loss.

Let's just hope that no matter what happens - win or lose - that out fair city celebrates - or commiserates - without destruction.

I think sometimes people are blind....

12-13 5th in points, 5th in goals 19th in TOI for defensemen
11-12 2nd in points, 6th in goals, 23rd in TOI for defensemen
10-11 4th in points, 1st in goals, 36th in TOI for defensemen

Yeah... No demand for this. Ha
- ilinkhawk

Just because they disagree doesn't make them blind, imo. One of those sight-impaired people who seems to disagree is his coach. At 300 pounds, he's not doing too well on the defensive end lately - he's the highly paid #1 D-man on a horrid defensive team. But he does gather some points, especially on the PP.

Careful, guys - we in Chicago have had our share of idiots rioting because of sports win or loss.

Let's just hope that no matter what happens - win or lose - that out fair city celebrates - or commiserates - without destruction.
- StLBravesFan

Yup.... Bulls fans....

Just because they disagree doesn't make them blind, imo. One of those sight-impaired people who seems to disagree is his coach. At 300 pounds, he's not doing too well on the defensive end lately - he's the highly paid #1 D-man on a horrid defensive team. But he does gather some points, especially on the PP.
- mohel

Numbers don't lie... He is and always will be on the heavier side and never will be q shut down blueliner. However...he has put up serious numbers. Over the last 3 years he is top 3 in the entire NHL. Ignoring numbers = blindness. Yes

Where are the comments by his coach? Would be interested to read...

FWIW, MacLean would have gotten my vote
- John Jaeckel

Homer!

...selective reading I see because most of my posts are not Q related. It's okay to question a move or criticize because even I've been hard on him at times and every fan has a right to do that. My beef is with the people who give him no credit at all....the "winning in spite of" crowd......and I will post it another 300 times if I have to....enjoy your reading.
- UnnamedSource

You've got a lot of nerve giving credit where credit's due...fire Crawford and bench Q!