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Oneonta Penguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2007

Jun 13 @ 11:25 AM ET
You're literally blaming us for Eklund's poopty cap central? Laughable.

As for Couturier, goes to show how much you watched. He was literally a fourth line center both this and last season. There was a stretch when he was on the second line to start this season, but he struggled in an increased offensive role.

- BulliesPhan87



UMMM ... cap geek too has him at 3.1, so its not only your homer that has it wrong, I guess capgeek has it wrong as well, or maybe you are the one that is wrong, right?
Daman
Joined: 07.03.2011

Jun 13 @ 11:27 AM ET
Just got out of a meeting, has Malkin been traded yet ?
- MadCap2008


No, the contrary. Alexei signed a 22 year deal worth big $$$$, making him richer than Mark Cuban.

All joking aside, Malkin deserves top level money and years but it will be interesting to see the cap ramifications in 2 - 5 years.

Cheers!
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jun 13 @ 11:29 AM ET
UMMM ... cap geek too has him at 3.1, so its not only your homer that has it wrong, I guess capgeek has it wrong as well, or maybe you are the one that is wrong, right?
- Oneonta Penguin

I still don't at all understand why you're holding me responsible for Eklund and Daman.

Also, if you promise to drop the 'Pittsburgh vs. Philadelphia' Richard waving pretense for fifteen minutes, I will explain Schenn's cap hit to you. You have to promise, though.
Daman
Joined: 07.03.2011

Jun 13 @ 11:31 AM ET
I still don't at all understand why you're holding me responsible for Eklund and Daman.
- BulliesPhan87


Yes, agreed. BulliesPhan is cordial, intelligent, and brings some good conversation to the table.

He is nothing like Da Man, and please don't blame him for my indiscretions.
canadianpenfan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary
Joined: 05.13.2010

Jun 13 @ 11:31 AM ET
UMMM ... cap geek too has him at 3.1, so its not only your homer that has it wrong, I guess capgeek has it wrong as well, or maybe you are the one that is wrong, right?
- Oneonta Penguin



Let me try and sort this out for everyones sake...

In regards to the salary, jak was talking about Gusty, you thought he was talking about Schenn.
dbell646
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.13.2009

Jun 13 @ 11:33 AM ET
I'm not about ready to say Dupes is gone. I wouldn't be shocked to see Kunitz dealt though. He is a UFA after next year. Then again, we don't have anyone in the system to fill his shoes and you aren't going to get a huge return for him, like a stud youngster on an ELC
- Oneonta Penguin

This was assuming we traded Letang for Eberle. top 6 would be crosby,malkin,neal,bennett,eberle,kunitz and I don't think we'd be able to resign Dupes
nh4442
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @MyDaddysInTheAF, PA
Joined: 05.28.2010

Jun 13 @ 11:34 AM ET
if letang doesn't take 5.5-6mil he will be traded either at draft or trade deadline..

iggy can still sign for a billy G contract 2.5mil/2yrs...

dupes will take 2.25-2.5/3yrs

cooke will take 3mil/3yrs

tk gone

Jeffrey gone

morrow gone

eaton gone

murray idk

adams 1.5/2yrs

im a hopeful romantic with these numbers
dbell646
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.13.2009

Jun 13 @ 11:35 AM ET
if letang doesn't take 5.5-6mil he will be traded either at draft or trade deadline..

iggy can still sign for a billy G contract 2.5mil/2yrs...

dupes will take 2.25-2.5/3yrs

cooke will take 3mil/3yrs

tk gone

Jeffrey gone

morrow gone

eaton gone

murray idk

adams 1.5/2yrs

im a hopeful romantic with these numbers

- nh4442

It's nice to see you include Dupuis on this list. Are you ok?
nh4442
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @MyDaddysInTheAF, PA
Joined: 05.28.2010

Jun 13 @ 11:35 AM ET
It's nice to see you include Dupuis on this list. Are you ok?
- dbell646

12-87-19
14-71-18
24-16-9

only if these are the lines
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jun 13 @ 11:36 AM ET
Let me try and sort this out for everyones sake...

In regards to the salary, jak was talking about Gusty, you thought he was talking about Schenn.

- canadianpenfan

Bah, he's never going to drop the attitude, so I'll give you the explanation, free of charge:
Brayden Schenn has an enormous (edit: well, enormous for an ELC) bonus built into his contract, which he only receives if he plays in all 82 NHL games in a season, and also skated for 25 minutes in each game (I assume they'll use his minutes/game average for this). Without the bonus cushion, the cap must account for this bonus until it is no longer achievable. So, he'll probably sit for a game.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jun 13 @ 11:37 AM ET
Yes, agreed. BulliesPhan is cordial, intelligent, and brings some good conversation to the table.

He is nothing like Da Man, and please don't blame him for my indiscretions.

- Daman

Don't forget modest, I'm very modest.
kgrpitt
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: PA
Joined: 09.08.2010

Jun 13 @ 11:37 AM ET
I think so too. Our return will be better than the one we took for J.Staal. I get excited just to think about it.
- Orpik44


Personally I thought the return was damn good considering Staal back Shero into a corner.
Oneonta Penguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2007

Jun 13 @ 11:38 AM ET
Yes, agreed. BulliesPhan is cordial, intelligent, and brings some good conversation to the table.

He is nothing like Da Man, and please don't blame him for my indiscretions.

- Daman


Do you talk in the third person in real life?
canadianpenfan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary
Joined: 05.13.2010

Jun 13 @ 11:39 AM ET
if letang doesn't take 5.5-6mil he will be traded either at draft or trade deadline..

iggy can still sign for a billy G contract 2.5mil/2yrs...

dupes will take 2.25-2.5/3yrs

cooke will take 3mil/3yrs

tk gone

Jeffrey gone

morrow gone

eaton gone

murray idk

adams 1.5/2yrs

im a hopeful romantic with these numbers

- nh4442




Romantic?


Oneonta Penguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2007

Jun 13 @ 11:40 AM ET
if letang doesn't take 5.5-6mil he will be traded either at draft or trade deadline..

iggy can still sign for a billy G contract 2.5mil/2yrs...

dupes will take 2.25-2.5/3yrs

cooke will take 3mil/3yrs

tk gone

Jeffrey gone

morrow gone

eaton gone

murray idk

adams 1.5/2yrs

im a hopeful romantic with these numbers

- nh4442


Let me preface this by saying I like Murray. That said, I might be more inclined to resign Eaton over him. Iggy won't take Guerin money. I wouldn't even resign him. Add Niskanen gone and we are in agreement.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jun 13 @ 11:42 AM ET
Well, then the salary chart on this site, one run by a Flyers homer and cap geek is wrong. It has him at 3.1 million. Maybe your boy should correct it.

Did Couts have a similar year? I don't remember seeing the second coming of Ron Francis having fourth line minutes as a rookie.

- Oneonta Penguin

HAHAH he played literally the entire season on the fourth line... to the point that Flyers fans have wanted Lava fired for his "misuse" of Couts. His most common line mates are 4th liners.

With the expected departure of Briere... we will get to see what he really has.
Daman
Joined: 07.03.2011

Jun 13 @ 11:43 AM ET
The funny thing here is that many Pens fans are ready to show Letang the door and many Flyers fans would give their first born to get Letang.

nh4442
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @MyDaddysInTheAF, PA
Joined: 05.28.2010

Jun 13 @ 11:43 AM ET
Let me preface this by saying I like Murray. That said, I might be more inclined to resign Eaton over him. Iggy won't take Guerin money. I wouldn't even resign him. Add Niskanen gone and we are in agreement.
- Oneonta Penguin

I like murray too
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jun 13 @ 11:44 AM ET
Let me try and sort this out for everyones sake...

In regards to the salary, jak was talking about Gusty, you thought he was talking about Schenn.

- canadianpenfan

No.. I was talking about Schenn.

Schenn is set to make 810k this upcoming season. He has a bonus that pays out 2. something million if he plays in EVERY NHL regular season game for over 26 minutes of icetime or something completely unfeasible.

http://www.capgeek.com/player/1624
canadianpenfan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary
Joined: 05.13.2010

Jun 13 @ 11:44 AM ET
No.. I was talking about Schenn.

Schenn is set to make 810k this upcoming season. He has a bonus that pays out 2. something million if he plays in EVERY NHL regular season game for over 26 minutes of icetime or something completely unfeasible.

http://www.capgeek.com/player/1624

- jak521



Ya got it jak.


Just want this conversation to end.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jun 13 @ 11:47 AM ET
No.. I was talking about Schenn.

Schenn is set to make 810k this upcoming season. He has a bonus that pays out 2. something million if he plays in EVERY NHL regular season game for over 26 minutes of icetime or something completely unfeasible.

http://www.capgeek.com/player/1624

- jak521

Leight
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jun 13 @ 11:47 AM ET
Ya got it jak.


Just want this conversation to end.

- canadianpenfan

Consider it done Sir!

Seriously though... I like talking to you guys... arguing with you guys, and just talking hockey in general with you guys (and girls, sorry)... Not trying to be a pest.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jun 13 @ 11:49 AM ET
Leight
- BulliesPhan87

You should probably change your name to DelcosPhinest69
Emperor Filonius
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Drinking the tears of the defeated from Lord Stanley's chalice.
Joined: 01.18.2007

Jun 13 @ 11:49 AM ET
Let me preface this by saying I like Murray. That said, I might be more inclined to resign Eaton over him. Iggy won't take Guerin money. I wouldn't even resign him. Add Niskanen gone and we are in agreement.
- Oneonta Penguin


I have serious doubts that at his age, Eaton can keep up a high level of play for a full season. He wasn't nearly as good as the playoffs went along. He was a stopgap measure at best. I'd rather see more of a guy like Bortuzzo who is a young player with upside rather than a guy who was unemployed going into last season.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jun 13 @ 11:51 AM ET
You should probably change your name to DelcosPhinest69
- jak521



I didn't think my username could be worse. I stand corrected.
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